WHY ARE PEOPLE WORSHIPING ON SUNDAY?

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Donkeyfish07

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Well I've seen some heated exchanges as well, but I never seen a Sunday gatherer start a thread regarding this issue of "what day to worship" or "what day you need to worship", we may explain why we worship on Sunday, but we don't force it on others...personally I don't agree with the choice of your words describing Sunday worshipers as anti-sabbath, for I am a sabbath keeper because I worship the substance that fulfilled the shadow.
I actually wasn't referring to people who worship on sunday as anti-sabbath......By anti-sabbath I literally mean people that are anti-sabbath.
 

Wall

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Sunday may not be directly called the Lord's day in Scripture but the point of the resurrection is the pivotal point for the Christian Church is it foundation.
Finally. Thanks for your honesty
 

Wall

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Please stop trying to reinvent History - 2nd century writers such as Justin Martyr attest to the widespread practice of Sunday worship (First Apology, chapter 67).
So what if they did?

1 JOHN 2 [18] Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, EVEN NOW ARE THERE MANY ANTICHRISTS; whereby we know that it is the last time. [19] They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. [20] BUT YE HAVE AN UNCTION FROM THE HOLY ONE, AND YE KNOW ALL THINGS. [21] I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

I wonder why you look outside the Word for answers. All the answers are in the Word. You could be listening to one of many antichrists and not even realize it.

2 COR. 11 [13] For such are FALSE APOSTLES, deceitful workers, TRANSFORMING THEMSELVES INTO THE APOSTLES OF CHRIST. [14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

It would seem to be very dangerous to trust your salvation to the various religious leaders or to take hold to the doctrines of these men. They might appear to be ministers of righteousness but they are not.

MATT.24 [4] And Jesus answered and said unto them, TAKE HEED THAT NO MAN DECEIVE YOU.[5] For MANY SHALL COME IN MY NAME, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many

"the many"
 
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Kerry

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Still this Sunday or Saturday crap. What do you do on Monday, Or is Saturday hangover day. Most would prefer Saturday over Sunday, especially in the fall, because that is NFL day. To heck with God the Patriots are playing. I'll get to Him later, He knows my heart. Yes He does. I wonder, How many of you attend Sunday night service, if your church even has a Sunday night service, most don't nowadays. Heck I spent the morning with Him and now Football is own, My friends are coming over the cooler is stocked, we gonna have a good time.
 

Wall

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Wall, I was wrong. You are one of the decieved.

Your arguement is one of ignoring the implications of what has been said and done for centuries until a few nuts came along and said Sunday is not the Lord's Day even if it says that in scripture.
Well danschance, bookends couldn't find any scriptures that called sunday the Lords day. How are you doin
 

Wall

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Still this Sunday or Saturday crap. What do you do on Monday, Or is Saturday hangover day. Most would prefer Saturday over Sunday, especially in the fall, because that is NFL day. To heck with God the Patriots are playing. I'll get to Him later, He knows my heart. Yes He does. I wonder, How many of you attend Sunday night service, if your church even has a Sunday night service, most don't nowadays. Heck I spent the morning with Him and now Football is own, My friends are coming over the cooler is stocked, we gonna have a good time.
Are you an angry pastor with no flock?
 
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josh123

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Hebrews 4 is all about keeping Gods Sabbath day

HEBREWS 4 [10] For HE THAT IS ENTERED INTO HIS REST, he also hath ceased from his own works, AS GOD DID FROM HIS. [11] Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

Well...Ya see what it says. As God did from His. Now lets see how God rested from His work

HEBREWS 4 [4] For he spake in a certain place of THE SEVENTH DAY on this wise, And GOD DID REST THE SEVENTH DAY from all his works

Yup. Its right there in Hebrews 4 for all to see. God rested the 7th day. Pretty simple
t is not physical rest it is spiritual rest in god.. Let us labour therefore to enter that rest.. is saying let us strive to enter that rest.. the eternal rest of god in us
 

WomanLovesTX

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See my above post. We are doing exactly what God wants us to do. We are not bound to the law. Only judaizers think they are.
Wow. You make that sound like judaizers are a bad thing. Our Lord Jesus Christ is Rabbi of the true Jewish faith. I'll take being a Judaizer is a positive thing.
 
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Shiloah

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Wow. You make that sound like judaizers are a bad thing. Our Lord Jesus Christ is Rabbi of the true Jewish faith. I'll take being a Judaizer is a positive thing.
That's just a name people use when they don't like what you're teaching. It doesn't mean anything in and of itself.
 
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Shiloah

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t is not physical rest it is spiritual rest in god.. Let us labour therefore to enter that rest.. is saying let us strive to enter that rest.. the eternal rest of god in us
The fact of the matter is, God told us in His commandments to keep the sabbath as instructed. Jesus reinforced that by saying "if you love Me, keep My commandments." All this arguing over whether it's a spiritual rest or a physical rest of whatever means nothing. Only Christ's instructions as given to us mean anything. That's all we should be paying attention to or discussing here. Not our personal opinions.
 

Wall

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Sunday, Saturday, Wednesday,Thursday........ ect. Baloney, hogwash. David said that I can be out here keeping my sheep and begin to praise Him and He encompasses me. David was under law, yet he knew that God inhabits the praises of His people. We can spend any day with God, it is our choice. The fact is that people want to live like the devil for 6 days and get all holy on one.

Don't think so, what about that 35 bucks you spent watching hollywood's latest with all kinds of nakedness and homosexuality and drinking and drug use. I bet most of you let your ten year olds watch it.

Oh I do not support that kind of stuff. Really you spent your hard earned money on it and now want to gripe about a tithe. Where is your focus, America please return to the God of our forefathers. that is the only hope we have.

Keep watching Oprah, and Wendy, and the amazing Dr. Phil., and watch this country that has been so blessed by God fall. It is already happening. Yet we have become so blind we cannot see it. This welfare state is going bankrupt and China is waiting to cash in. Either turn to God or brush up on you Chinese. I know of many companies and banks that are funded by the Chinese. My investor, just went to China to try to ease their investment in his company. American banks are not loaning money because they are cashing in on the government bail out. So companies are having to go to China for funding. and were are worried about what day to worship God. It needs to be everyday and night and every waking hour in between.
Do they really gripe about the tithe?
 
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Shiloah

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Still this Sunday or Saturday crap. What do you do on Monday, Or is Saturday hangover day. Most would prefer Saturday over Sunday, especially in the fall, because that is NFL day. To heck with God the Patriots are playing. I'll get to Him later, He knows my heart. Yes He does. I wonder, How many of you attend Sunday night service, if your church even has a Sunday night service, most don't nowadays. Heck I spent the morning with Him and now Football is own, My friends are coming over the cooler is stocked, we gonna have a good time.

Is this suppose to mean something?
 

Wall

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That's just a name people use when they don't like what you're teaching. It doesn't mean anything in and of itself.
Yeah, judaizers not bad but I kinda like legalist a little better. After all I cant imagine standing before Jesus and saying save me Lord.. im an illegalist...I did nothing you commanded me to do.
 

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Hi Shiloah
I think Mr Kerry is angry at something
 
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danschance

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Wow. You make that sound like judaizers are a bad thing. Our Lord Jesus Christ is Rabbi of the true Jewish faith. I'll take being a Judaizer is a positive thing.

Then you are may have an issue with intelligence. The Judaizers were the ones who wanted to spin the clock back to the way it was. They did not embrace change and even opposed it. They wanted all the gentiles to be circumcised after it had been repealed.

Sure, if you want to be an old stick in the mud, by all means be a judaizer, resist the change that comes from the Holy Spirit.
 
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Shiloah

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Yeah, judaizers not bad but I kinda like legalist a little better. After all I cant imagine standing before Jesus and saying save me Lord.. im an illegalist...I did nothing you commanded me to do.
This is a scream. lol.
 
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Shiloah

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As the Papacy grew in power, it opposed the Seventh day Sabbath in favour of Sunday sacredness. All historical records show The Catholic Church made the day change official in the Council of Laodicea (A.D. 363-364). Read did Constantine change the Sabbath to find what role he played. The Council of Laodicea around A.D. 364 decreed 59 Canon laws. Here is the final law instituted by the Papal Church.

Canon XXIX:Christians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honoring the Lord’s Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ.” (Percival Translation).

So the word Judaize came from Catholicism forcing upon Christians Sunday worship as apposed to keeping the 7th day Sabbath as ordained by God Himself. In other words, the Catholic church stood in the place of God and called itself God. Sound familiar?
 
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Shiloah

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Then you are may have an issue with intelligence. The Judaizers were the ones who wanted to spin the clock back to the way it was. They did not embrace change and even opposed it. They wanted all the gentiles to be circumcised after it had been repealed.

Sure, if you want to be an old stick in the mud, by all means be a judaizer, resist the change that comes from the Holy Spirit.
This change did not come from the Holy Spirit.
 

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So what if they did?

1 JOHN 2 [18] Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, EVEN NOW ARE THERE MANY ANTICHRISTS; whereby we know that it is the last time. [19] They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us. [20] BUT YE HAVE AN UNCTION FROM THE HOLY ONE, AND YE KNOW ALL THINGS. [21] I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

I wonder why you look outside the Word for answers. All the answers are in the Word. You could be listening to one of many antichrists and not even realize it.

2 COR. 11 [13] For such are FALSE APOSTLES, deceitful workers, TRANSFORMING THEMSELVES INTO THE APOSTLES OF CHRIST. [14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

It would seem to be very dangerous to trust your salvation to the various religious leaders or to take hold to the doctrines of these men. They might appear to be ministers of righteousness but they are not.

MATT.24 [4] And Jesus answered and said unto them, TAKE HEED THAT NO MAN DECEIVE YOU.[5] For MANY SHALL COME IN MY NAME, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many

"the many"
What is the definition of an anti-Christ, biblically? Here I believe are are asserting the meaning of anti-christ as a Sunday worshipper, thus you are using the same assertions I used by say the Lord's day is Sunday!