Satan has my wife!

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RoboOp

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Its easy to say " don't let her stop you from taking the kids to church". She will literally lock the kids in the bedroom with her! And even if i could get my hands on my kids, it would be a tug of war, and I'm not about to that with my kids. My seven year old daughter has gone to church twice with me and absolutely loved it. Daily she asks me when can she go to church again and we try to agree on who is gonna ask mom, cause we both know that the answer will be 'no'. My heart is bleeding for my kids. I never wanted a life like this for them
I understand. I'm sorry if I did make it sound simple. I realize that nothing is simple in your situation.

Actually after I posted that I was thinking it's probably not so simple. Heck, there's probably no way I could get three young kids ready for church without my wife's help and cooperation. :D And I understand a wife who's against it could easily stop it or make it very difficult.

There is nothing simple in any of this.

Likewise if she leaves you and divorces you that won't be simple either. Just the beginning of a lot more problems.

Hang on to God.
 
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Its easy to say " don't let her stop you from taking the kids to church". She will literally lock the kids in the bedroom with her! And even if i could get my hands on my kids, it would be a tug of war, and I'm not about to that with my kids. My seven year old daughter has gone to church twice with me and absolutely loved it. Daily she asks me when can she go to church again and we try to agree on who is gonna ask mom, cause we both know that the answer will be 'no'. My heart is bleeding for my kids. I never wanted a life like this for them
As well meaning as it may seem to insist your children go to church against their mother's will it is disrespectful. Children no matter their age know there is something wrong even if they have never heard a disagreement or been told they have this innate sense like to the love of a parent for their child.

i believe I replied to your other post but given what your wife went through, does she not worry that the same could happen to her children?
Her not allowing God into her home means she blames Him for not saving her. There are so many scenarios flying in my head right now but I know that God knows the right scenario.
When you pray, believe you have received then let God. Go about your life and thank Him for His wisdom in the situation. If nothing seems to be happening, continue to thank Him as putting great miracles in action sometimes takes time but God is never late. As actions unfold that are inline with God thank Him.
There was a rift in the family in regards to child abuse and sibling turned against sibling. My mother got sick and ended up in the hospital. She was so ill that everyone was worried as the doctor advised the family to say their good byes and to let her go.
The two siblings met in her hospital room and both did an about face in different directions. It was so hard because one of them really needed to know if mother loved her. I made it a point to let all siblings know I loved them. Love the person hate the action type of thing. I prayed as I was getting worried for my sister as my father left without apologizing and she was crushed. I couldn't bear to see our mom do that to her too.
As it was mom gave her the love and the day after she passed my sister who had not slept for almost 24 hours crawled into our mom's bed and when she finally awoke she said she had the most restful sleep she had ever had in a long time and it felt like our mom was holding her while she slept.

I know it doesn't sound like it relates but it shows the God can do anything. ;) & btw when we went home to be with our mom before she died my sisters and their children were all talking. No hugs yet but one day we will get there.
 
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MidniteWelder

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Hello Daszed,
Sorry to hear the situation you are going through. I know it must be heart wrenching for you right now.
There is the possibility that by "consequence of misunderstanding" your wife directly blames God for the abuse she had to endure as a young girl.
Many people seek to blame someone or something when bad things happen such as murder, tragic loss, and abuse.
Especially when enduring those circumstances were not their fault.
So they may think why did it happen, and she may have even turned to God at the time way back then, and .....
was disappointed by not being delivered.
If this is the case, which only you could find out through a slow process which would take time of her opening up ....
she may want nothing to do with God and even think God could make things worse which could be the reason she is being adamant about not wanting the kids to go to church.
Very similar to a Christian messing up somehow such as just one night of driving home drunk and possibly getting in a car accident and killing the child of someone who doesn't yet know God, for them to then illogically conclude that all Christians are bad or that God is bad for letting one of his people do such a thing.

As others have suggested, lots of understanding patience and love and some counseling from a pastor would help.
But if any of this may be true in what your wife feels...it will take some time for her to understand that God didn't initiate what happened to her. It may also take time for her to trust God. And to even open her heart up to him.
She may not understand what it is ...
is A bad thing happened to her due to 'another person' falling victim to the enemy. The one who abused her was the one who also needed Christ.
We don't know why God allows these types things to happen, but at the same time, if we've learned anything through what Christ endured it's that every one of us has a cup in life we must drink of within coming to him with all our soul.
No Christian in the bible ever had their life set out without trial or persecution.
Often we are shown what evil is...so that we may see the difference of what goodness and deliverance God can bring.
Without Christ, people are led by the enemy by default.
And even when we are in Christ just as you are, we still endure trials due to the infiltration of the enemy.
Robo is right that a separation with the possibility of losing everything she lives for may be what it takes to wake her up that it is God she must be living for without putting anything of higher importance than him.
its hard to say, for everybody the reason we turn to him is different.
One thing is true though, Christ didn't die for nothing.
Keep praying for your wife, your kids, and your household.
Seek Gods guidance, let him speak to you how to handle this.
Another thing to be prepared for, the closer one gets to God, the more the enemy tries to keep us away from God.
Until your wife is freed through understanding and allows God to heal her, its going to be a struggle and a spiritual battle
Whatever happens, you keep doing whats right before the eyes of God because he does work all things for good to those who love him.
Keep your Faith brother. All we need is a mustard seeds worth to start, then God can do the rest.
 
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My Christian friend officially gave up on my wife today.

I think God got me to watch a Joel Osteen episode today. Joel quoted something that he heard, so I said it to my wife and walked away..."I love you, but I can not make you happy. I've tried everything and I'm done trying"
 

yac11

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My Christian friend officially gave up on my wife today.

I think God got me to watch a Joel Osteen episode today. Joel quoted something that he heard, so I said it to my wife and walked away..."I love you, but I can not make you happy. I've tried everything and I'm done trying"
We all know that had to be the hardest thing in the world to do. Perhaps the only good that will come out of this is that if you divorce you will get custody and can help to bring up your children to know Jesus and fellowship with other Christians.

I know I told my dad recently that the most precious memory I have is when I was about 10 and he offered to take me to church if I wanted. He and my mom had just started going but her depression worsened and she stopped. He told me he wouldn't attend with me but would drive me and pick up if I felt a need to go. I really wanted to go but said no because even at 10 I saw what my dad was going through with my mom. It made us all sick.

So dazed I will be praying for you and I promise. Your story touches my heart and I know your a great person, husband and father. Just remember, keep your cool as your kids are watching everything now and always remember the greatest gift you can give your child is to have a relationship with God and to really understand how much Jesus loved us all.

My dad helped me get to where I am with the lord. A women with many trials but who is so very blessed and loved by our Lord Jesus Christ. God Bless
 

Shilo

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Father God, I pray you bring this family back together and bring healing, peace, love, understand, and that each of them come to know and walk with you. In Yeshua's holy name I pray amen.
 
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Disciple40

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dear dazed

how accurate a name i find your plight interesting but not abnormal.it would be interesting to know exactly what her mother had said to her when she blamed her for her sexual abuse. Though god can give you strength your wife needs to stop blaming herself for her past. People will often give themselves what they feel they deserve. Obviously your wife blames herself for much of her past. She needs to understand that her mother was too weak to take responsibility for what she knew was going on. That does not make her mother any less to blame for what happened to her.Her mother was simply 2 week a person.( her mother never became a mother.....what mother would put her own desires before the health and welfare of her own child....and then blame her child for the damage done by her neglect....I propose no mother at all ). Your wife needs to thinkfrom a 3rd person perspective and ask if a child were being molested and she found out would she be upset? Then why does she continue to blame that 7yr old girl, herself. It was not her fault and she needs to blame her mother, addmitance of guilt is not a requirement for someone to be guilty...she is as guilty as the abuser. I would love to talk about it further the depth and breadth of your situation would take a long time to justice but I believe strongly in familyand would love to help if I could. 1-403-390-6223 just 4 perspective Jay
 
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Daszed, I feel for you in this trial. I am not a professional, all I have is observation of a similar situation and what I believe is Spirit led understanding. I think this all stems from guilt. I think she is hiding from God not blaming Him. She needs you to be stronger than her. She needs you to take control. I'm not saying you are allowing this to continue but she is definitely in control. I know it is the proper Christian response to say you want God to save your marriage but in all honesty if it was me saying that in your shoes I'd be lying. I'm sure it seems easier to leave her in the mess she created. It seems hopeless and exhausting. What a testimony you two will have one day. Sometimes I think God puts us in situations like this so we understand His love with us as His bride. We ignore Him and cause Him stress, often our hearts are divided and far from Him but He stays with us and in the end we are better because of His undying, undeserved love. May God give you strength through this life changing struggle. I pray that God grants you His peace and wisdom as you peel back the layers of your wife's pain and guilt. Be strong my friend my prayers will continue for you and your family. Get some good Christian music for kids and listen to it in the car and find teachable moments with them. They will be fine. Their Christian walk will be more influenced by you and your walk then by an hour a week at a children's church. God bless.
 
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Mammachickadee

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Its easy to say " don't let her stop you from taking the kids to church". She will literally lock the kids in the bedroom with her! And even if i could get my hands on my kids, it would be a tug of war, and I'm not about to that with my kids. My seven year old daughter has gone to church twice with me and absolutely loved it. Daily she asks me when can she go to church again and we try to agree on who is gonna ask mom, cause we both know that the answer will be 'no'. My heart is bleeding for my kids. I never wanted a life like this for them
Do not let ANYTHING distract you from investigating God's salvation and His plan for you. He's obviously calling you.
I grieve for you in your situation. As a parent, especially, you must have great concern about the influence your wife's activities will have on their futures as individuals. Pray and love them and their mother. In the Bible there is an account of a man whose wife was immoral, yet he pursued her and loved her in spite of herself. You can read of the account in Hosea.
One cannot know for sure her reasons for beginning the alcoholism and the discontentment with her life, but your response to the current state of your marriage should be to pursue her and court her all over again. Sometimes someone who goes through great trauma in their youth has an improper self-image and even blames himself for what happened to them... especially in cases of sexual abuse. It will take time to help these people conquer their fear of intimacy into adulthood and they choose to drown themselves in a addiction to escape the negative emotions. Wooing her is a tender way of showing her she is special enough to warrant the extra love.
Do not give up on taking the kids to church. Perhaps you can reach a compromise with your wife concerning their going.
 
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melodiemix

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Hey Daszed,

Thank you for sharing your post, you have a beautiful heart and nature about you despite what your going through with your wife. The "hope" i'm hearing in your story is you waiting on God for answers. You probably may not need me to remind you that God's ways are not our ways and his thoughts are not our thoughts...BUT... we do know God's timing is the right timing!

Your Beautiful wife is hurting and the trauma she en-counted as a young child is sadly taking it's course. The story of the prodigal son comes to mind but more so the ending part of him returning to his Fathers loving arms. May you be encouraged that you are on the right track with persistent praying brother. May the Good Lord continue to strengthen you and guide you through this trialing process. Blessings :)

Blessings.
 
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I have been there, done that, as far as your wife's thinking and attitudes being formed by the abuse she suffered. I was blessed in that I recognized that my thinking was wrong, and I met Christ. We part ways, there. But after I recognized my wrong thinking (something your wife has not done) I found myself going right back into those old wrong patterns of thinking. I found there was something beyond my reasoning involved Even the Holy Spirit and scripture hadn't cleaned me from it. It was in the 60's, no net to use for research but I went to the library. It talked about the subconscious mind. I still don't understand all of that, but I found a book on how to reprogram it. That helped. It was something I had to do myself, and it was long, hard work.

What I am telling you is that your wife is facing more than reason can help. Perhaps a psychiatrist could with long hard work. You will have to just let it go and live around it best you can.

Also, there probably are demons working though her. They are a fact and they are dangerous. There is a man who has worked with this in his psychiatric practice and wrote a book about it. It is "People of the Lie" by Peck. It helps with understanding how demons work, how they use people. C S Lewis' Screwtape Letters is also very helpful.

You are living in a separate world, one little connected with the world your wife lives in. As you surround you and your kids closer and closer in the world of the spirit, the world that includes Christ and His Father, the more you will have what the word shalom expresses. If you don't know, please google it for an explanation of Shalom.
 
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Mammachickadee

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Its easy to say " don't let her stop you from taking the kids to church". She will literally lock the kids in the bedroom with her! And even if i could get my hands on my kids, it would be a tug of war, and I'm not about to that with my kids. My seven year old daughter has gone to church twice with me and absolutely loved it. Daily she asks me when can she go to church again and we try to agree on who is gonna ask mom, cause we both know that the answer will be 'no'. My heart is bleeding for my kids. I never wanted a life like this for them
I guess one way to get around that is to say it's time to go early enough so that, when she bolts, you have time to take the door off of the hinges. Make sure that she knows ahead of time that you ARE taking them to church. Because of her abusive background you have to use as much love and tenderness as possible. My husband was abusive during the first couple of years of our marriage, and since we have reconciled I still brace myself whenever I know he is getting upset and it causes me to interpret everything differently. YOU CAN DO THIS!
 
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During the years that I've been married, many injured animals showed up on our doorstep. My wife used to say that God must be sending us all these creatures to take care of for a reason.

Later on in my relationship, children confided in us for advice and direction. Together, my wife and I helped many children with problems that they were too afraid to speak to their parents about. My wife would then say that there must be some reason God has sent us animals and now all these kids to help.

The kids have grown into young adults and we still are given the utmost respect, no matter what path they have chosen to follow. We have given shelter and food to anyone in need. I have even employed one of them with me.

There must be a reason why God has let such a good person fall so hard. I think He must be preparing her for something bigger that He has planned for her. I just hope that she doesn't miss the opportunity by running away from Him.
 
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During the years that I've been married, many injured animals showed up on our doorstep. My wife used to say that God must be sending us all these creatures to take care of for a reason.

Later on in my relationship, children confided in us for advice and direction. Together, my wife and I helped many children with problems that they were too afraid to speak to their parents about. My wife would then say that there must be some reason God has sent us animals and now all these kids to help.

The kids have grown into young adults and we still are given the utmost respect, no matter what path they have chosen to follow. We have given shelter and food to anyone in need. I have even employed one of them with me.

There must be a reason why God has let such a good person fall so hard. I think He must be preparing her for something bigger that He has planned for her. I just hope that she doesn't miss the opportunity by running away from Him.
That is interesting that she talks of God and is so willing to help little ones so Satan cannot have your wife although she seems to be rebelling. Did something drastic happen? or did she recall something? did someone in the clergy or at church say something?

I was abused greatly throughout my life and I know different people react in different ways. My siblings are all different from me but then we suffered I guess the same kind of abuses by different people in different ways.

Have you thought of having an intervention with her? Don't give up without a fight and have God at your side. We are but human but God is GOD!
There are different types of interventions I've heard of. Some are quite violent, others resort to harassment, coercion, but the one I like focuses on love which is what God is all about. If your children are old enough you can include them but I do believe that they should be there like a family meeting but it involves talking.

Sometimes we love someone but we don't see or notice what is happened to them believe me I've seen it happen a few times and is not good for the relationship but the men just let it fly over their head and just about lost their family but still today they fail to see anytime it happens again.
Think back to when she started and see if you can remember if there was any event that may have caused her to go like this. 2, 3, 4, heads or more are better than one esp. caring women you can talk with who know your wife well may have noticed something. Do a little investigating if you can't figure it out yourself but be careful of whom you trust. Ask God for His guidance.
If you can't find anything, ask her just what has got her so upset because you love her and can't help her if you don't know.
Then try the intervention where you tell her things have to change because her actions are too much to handle and you are at a loss. See if you can find someone who has experience in interventions or google it to get ideas of how to properly handle it.

I pray that God guides your family to peace and love.
 

yac11

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My Christian friend officially gave up on my wife today.

I think God got me to watch a Joel Osteen episode today. Joel quoted something that he heard, so I said it to my wife and walked away..."I love you, but I can not make you happy. I've tried everything and I'm done trying"
I need to apologize for something. I just realized that when you wrote the post above, I took it as you were absolutely leaving her. I was not wanting you to be divorced, just thought that's what you meant.

I was on another thread and saw a post you posted 13 hours ago. Apparently you have 2 posts going, but I am happy that your not leaving her and the kids and I am praying for you.

God Bless you
 
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My apologies to you ,yak11. I can see how I should've re worded that differently.
As for the two posts. Well when I first started here, I told my story on the new members area. Then I noticed that too much was going on with that thread, I figured that i would leave that area for new people and started over here. But because I'm still getting advice on the other thread, I still correspond with those on it.
Everyone has given me the strength to keep my chin up and just look towards God as i travel through this dark path in my life.
I really am looking forward to the day that i can announce to all of you, my friends, that God has heard all your prayers and has lit up my path once again.
 

Lucy68

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Some valleys are very deep and dark but the light of God's Word lights our way, one step at a time. Baby steps are fine.

We don't know the why's and wherefore's of other people's actions...we can just keep loving them and praying for them.

The loving part doesn't mean enabling....the Holy Spirit leads us into how to truly love someone, unconditionally. Tricky but it can be done.

Praying for you....strength, wisdom, and comfort :).
 
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Hi there, I wanted to give you a little insight into me. I am the mother of a heroin addict, the mother of a daughter severley molested 3 times. The daughter of a alcholic father, the daughter in law to a alcholic mother in law, the sister of a crack pipe addict, and the sister of a cocaine addict.


Phew looks hectic when I put it on paper. One of the comments was for tough love, I am not sure if you have looked into the programme and attended meetings that are held as support for you as the family, or applied principle you though applied to this technique?

I use the word technique because that is what it is, we do enable the addict or alcholic which is what your wife is, without realising it. These tough love support groups encourage you to find the answer;s to your circumstance. You have so often pointed out how you want to fix her, how you want to make it right, how the Lord brought her along because she needed you.

These are all statements that enable her is her ability to drink, you are not her saviour, you cannot make it better, you cannot fix it, you cannot fix her. When you realise that she is the only one who can and must want to do the work to get better only then will it change. She will only have the desire to want to get better and make the change when it is unbearable for her to live this way. She has to hit what they call rock bottom.

I closed from front door in the face of my brother who arrived at my doorstep looking like a homeless person, driving around in a car with no tyres only the rimes on. I heard on another occassion how he was screaming down the telephone line, while he was being chased with knives down the road by people he owed money to for drugs. I told him I love him, and it is because I love him, that I close the door. He would have to sleep in the street and beg for his life before he decided it was time to change. If I had allowed him to come in, and sleep over and take a bath, and give him food, all his needs would of been met, and he would of continued for longer.

I fetched my son out of his hiding space in my back garden when he ran away from the rehab he was at, and told him that I loved him and for that reason he needed to get into the car and return, or he needed to leave my yard and not come back.

It goes on and on, please feel free to email me, should you require more info, or encouragement.

You have what it takes to make the difference for yourself and your children. The Lord has equipped you, you need to let her go so she can find herself, and come back.

Veronica
 
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Wow, 'woka', your life makes mine look like a walk in the park :/
Well things here have taken a different turn, and I set myself up for something that i don't know if I'm capable of doing. I started asking God for guidance and hopefully He'll give it through CC.
Its a huge story, but I'll try to narrow it down. So, 2 nights ago she walks into the house at 1 o'clock in the morning, barely able to hold herself up.
Now cutting through the whole introduction, we ended up in the garage yelling at each other, then talking, then yelling and then talking some more..etc. She accused me of her own fabricated ideas, she punched me in the face (if she were a man, she would be dangerous). A few times I turned my back to her and looked up at God, pleading him to intervene. She grabbed the cross around my neck, mocked it and nearly ripped it off. If not for the strength of God, I would not have been able to remain under control.
Going on...during the talk times, I spoke to her about forgiveness, I got her to watch a Charles Stanley sermon about forgiveness.(she kept criticizing it and only paid attention for about fifteen minutes).
I told her that I don't have the training to deal with her problems, all I can do is help her to get to God.
Oh ya...she told me that she was dying..some sort of terminal illness that she won't tell me about.
I asked her to give me a week of her full cooperation and obedience so that i could plant a spiritual seed in her...SHE AGREED.
I thought that if she would give me that week, I would try to put her life on a routine, but I need to start feeding her some Holy Spirit also.
Are there any passages in the bible that are hard hitters? Passages that are easy to understand for her that can maybe help that seed grow?
I don't think she's gonna keep her word, but I am gonna try to hold her to it. I told her to make an imaginary box in her head and put all her unforgiveness in there for a week, I said I wouldn't take that box from her, she can open it back up at the end of the week.
 
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Hello Daszed,

When someone has been abused sexually, verbally, mentally, physically... they have lost control of their own bodies to someone who used them for their own gain.,That helplessness is a terrible thing. The thought of being forced to do ANYTHING like that again is repulsive. They can't stand to be manipulated.

Am not sure what catagory your wife falls into. Maybe she needs tough love and maybe she needs to be loved freely. My husband did the tough love thing and it helped end our marriage. I was not an alcholic but I was physically abused, mentally and emotionally manipulated with rejection by my parents and family. Those feelings often resurfaced in our marriage even after I thought I was healed emotionally.

My husband was basically a good man but lead us with a forcefull hand including me, the wife. The- do it my way or leave phrase- was not something I agreed with in raising our kids. Love is sometimes not tough. We can't force someone to "feel" the way we think they should. If my husband had continued loving me above his pride I would have felt safe and secure. Manipulation was what I knew and his way of control only caused my defenses to go up more. Especially when more was at stake beside my pride being told when to go to bed. When it was about our son being thrown out of the house at age17 by his dad. The temper thing didn't work with teenagers or with a wife or husband. Temper NEVER works.

I agree with tough love when it is the right situation such as an alcoholic or drug user. But if someone began drinking because of remembered abuse and not having that love and security, those triggers also need to be considered and understood with counseling. Talked out in the open. Seen and dealt with.

Our marriage was not one that got any outside counselling. My husband did not believe in counsellors. I felt rejected and unloved when given an ultimatum. We later began divorce proceedings. Some time after, our other son was injured in Iraq and came to be home while the other son moved out. A MESS of emotions for everyone. Tons of hurt and self defense. Sides taken, family destroyed.

It was 25 yrs. into our marriage and abuse had not been dealt with so it came up again later. Now 7 years later- I can see if we had gotten counselling and stopped rushing in with wrong emotional solutions, we might still be married and be celebrating our 34th wedding anniversary. Our grown children might not be scattered and resentful and unforgiving.

Divorce is a very horrible thing. Those who have had a good marriage gone wrong can understand it must be avoided at all costs. Loving when the other doesn't is a strong message. Like Hosea in the Bible. It pulls down the defenses and heals hearts. Before making any choices for a plan of action, please get some counsel from a wise professional Christian counsellor Daszed. Gaining some understanding can make a major difference. A 3rd party is needed to show facts from feelings. God can save your marriage. It is His will to keep families together. It takes time so please don't get discouraged as the time passes. God can convict your wife while you love her. She sounds like she loves the Lord and at one time trusted herself to trust Him. She sounds very confused. I will be joining the people here in prayer for you Daszed. ladylynn