what is the commandments of god?

[Cobus]

Josh not only does STOP SINNING count, but AFTER you sin no more, to refuse to do the right thing is ALSO a sin. So not only NOT KEEPING GOD'S WORD is sin, but also not doing the right thing...

Josh yu ask who is perfct.... ALL PEOPLE THAT HAS JESUS CHRIST IN THEM IS....These are the people that can rebuke ALL who sin before all people, that others may also fear.

I should not be a partaker of other man's sins, I should keep myself PURE.... WOW!

Kerry are you pure? What about you Josh? Me, I am as filthy as they get. I am a sinner in need of salvation. And if salvation keeps me a sinner, then I guess I need NOTHING, not even GOD or Jesus. What is the use then? I HATE SIN AND I HATE MYSELF IF I SIN. Is there a God that can do something about this? If there are how do I as sinner reach HIM?

If there is not, then I guess I need nothing, and I will just continue as ALL other people and die in my sin. The sin is alive and well for me, and I am alive and well for sin. Then so be it. But if there is a God out there that can take sin away from me, and me away from sin, I would be VERY interested in that salvation. But it has to be COMPLETELY away from ALL evil and the practise of sin.

If there is no such God that will make a man without sin, so that the man can lve himself, then there is no God good enough for me. Then I will just live my life as I winh and will. But if there is a God that can save into holiness and goliness like Jesus exposed and revealed, I would be VERY willing to accept such a God's conditions... He may approach me for deliverance...

May there be a God that can save PERFECTLY. That God I will admire and worship, and ONLY He is worthy of my worship. Any other God that leaves me to be a sinner, can take his deal and salvation as go play with Satan. I am only interested in a God that saves me as sinner. If you save me and I am still sinner, GO AWAY! I do not CARE for your deal.

I hate SIN and if God does not take it away COMPLETELY, then He is not my God! I need a salvation from this filthy person I am. If not, I will die a filthy man and GO TO HELL,.... so what will that harm any person, let alone the God of HOLINESS... He does not even know me. What should HE CARE?

And all you holy poly's out there arguing about God and His ways.... what is HIS WAYS... still sinning? Then I will gladly leave you and yuor God to play on this rubbish life of sin. But a man like Jesus and Paul... and many others, them I ENVY, that they did not have to hate themselves. I HATE myself, how can I love ANYBODY, Especially the HOLY GOD?

How can I LOVE if I hate myself? Man I wish I had a person to talk too. I wish there was a person that will take me and forgive me, and CHANGE me not to feel like this EVER again. What is the use I come with this hate of myself to God TIME AND TIME AGAIN? Why does He that have the power not just kill me? Why do I have to not love so much in my LIFE?

I hate hate HATE HATE HATE, where is the LOVE? Why is people so UGLY and easy to hate and ne angry with. Why do we stand up loving, and a few hours later HATE? HATE HATE.. SIN SIN SIN SIN...

Oh please God, YOU DO SOMETHING OR do as YOU PLEASE.

 

[Kerry]

The commandment of God Cobus is to trust in the work of the cross or did you read the bible. I could understand your belief if you have not read it. We are saved by faith, faith in what, the redemptive work of the cross or did you think it was something you did or can do.

Hey I'm just here to stand for the cross and nothing else.

 

[vic1980]

can you name a man that did other than Jesus?

I belive everyone here agrees and knows the fullfillment of the Law is Love

Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

But one cannot throw away God instruction on obedience ,and say i know what love is that would not make any sence ? Show me one piece of the Law that is not perfect? Paul,king david, daniel and all the other prophets understood the importance of God law, did they keep them perfectly no , But Jesus did and he made a way so that we could keep them perfectly.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in rigteousness:

2 Timothy 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

If you throw away Instruction in rightousness , how are you going to teach a man how to walk as Jesus walked among us ?

Since we Love as Jesus we fullfill the Law, but it still has a purpose to teach those that do not know Jesus Christ and there lawlessness there disobedient toward God Almighty.

1 Timothy 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; 11According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

I hope this make it clear and simple , God bless you in Jesus mighty name

 

[Cobus]

Vic you have it, but I know the whole world lieth in wicketness, but so do I my friend. HOW DO WE GET OUT OF THE WICKETNESS?

I am a sinner and needs God's Love to save me.. so how do I put up the hand and say.... HERE LORD PLEASE SAVE THIS SINNER AND WRECHET MAN I AM.

Kerry tell me now... Can your God save me from sin? I mean SAVE me from SIN... that means He can do something, that I can love myself, and my neighbour as myself, and HIM ABOVE ALL. And in that love there HAVE TO BE NO SIN.... Can your God do that? If not let me introduce you to one that can... He did not do it for me yet, but He did start, and He says HE WILL COMPLETE....

 

[Michael50]

no you can stay in but i'm just waiting for one of them to come in so we can discuss it together and see what the scripture says

Josh,, I'm a 7th day Adventist... You know what the 10 commandments are. And Sunday the 1st day of the week doesn't appear in any commandment God gave men.. But the 7th Day has been blessed and hallowed. And there is a Commandment that says we are to observe the 7th Day Sabbath! You can obey the pope and keep sunday,, but for me and my house,,, we shall obey the Lord and keep His Commandments.

 

[prodigal]

hi brothers and sisters, just to share, as far as the sabbath is concerned, maybe we could look at how we should be on the day, what we should and shouldn't do, not in a legalistic way, but surely the sabbath is more than a church meeting. In a world thats open 24/7, when we enter into rest do we allow others to also. Do we preach resting on a day then through our lifestyles encourage others to work. do we restrict the chores we do on the sabbath but think it ok on the same day to do the weekly shop encouraging others to work, or go to a restaurant, appearing to say its ok for others to wait on us but as for us we are resting on the sabbath. What is the sabbath to us??

 

[josh123]

To understand the law the commandments : Psalms 19:7-11

7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.
9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.
10More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

God bless

converting the souls that isn't in the 10 commandments that is here. And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. [h=3]1 John 3:23 how can we be converted without believe in him?[/h]

 

[josh123]

Josh,, I'm a 7th day Adventist... You know what the 10 commandments are. And Sunday the 1st day of the week doesn't appear in any commandment God gave men.. But the 7th Day has been blessed and hallowed. And there is a Commandment that says we are to observe the 7th Day Sabbath! You can obey the pope and keep sunday,, but for me and my house,,, we shall obey the Lord and keep His Commandments.

yea missing the point of what i'm saying... so once again your saying you love god and because you love him you will keep his commandments and since the 10 commandments is his commandments the others isn't important so this isn't important either? 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. [h=3]1 John 3:23 the 10 commandments doesn't say to believing on the name of his son jesus christ which is the only way we can be saved, so this is irrelevant? [/h]

 

[josh123]

Josh,, I'm a 7th day Adventist... You know what the 10 commandments are. And Sunday the 1st day of the week doesn't appear in any commandment God gave men.. But the 7th Day has been blessed and hallowed. And there is a Commandment that says we are to observe the 7th Day Sabbath! You can obey the pope and keep sunday,, but for me and my house,,, we shall obey the Lord and keep His Commandments.

and are you sure you are obeying? lets see here 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: obey see what this is saying 6 days shalt thou labour not 5 6 so you see what this is saying you MUST work 6 days for the rest of your life so this is god commandment we must keep if you miss 1 day of labouring you are breaking the commandment Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's. you must be perfect if you asmuch as look at a woman and covet you are breaking the commandment if you look at a car and covet you are breaking the commandment if you look at a dog and covet you are breaking the commandment unless the dog is yours by the way thy neighbors is anyone besides yourself

 

[Michael50]

yea missing the point of what i'm saying... so once again your saying you love god and because you love him you will keep his commandments and since the 10 commandments is his commandments the others isn't important so this isn't important either? 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23 the 10 commandments doesn't say to believing on the name of his son jesus christ which is the only way we can be saved, so this is irrelevant?

josh,, "Here is the patience of the saints: here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." Rev 14:12

Obedience is the service and allegiance of Love,,,,it is the true test of discipleship and a natural fruit of faith in Jesus Christ.

 

[josh123]

now if the 10 commandments is the commandments that we have to keep how will we be saved? because to believe in jesus in not in that commandment but in this one 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. [h=3]1 John 3:23 that so which commandment is the commandment to keep? thank you. or i guess we just be like oh i believe in jesus now back to the 10 commandments is that it? that's why it's not for us surely you must see that this is making sense what's i'm trying to tell you for your own good...[/h]

 

[Michael50]

now if the 10 commandments is the commandments that we have to keep how will we be saved? because to believe in jesus in not in that commandment but in this one 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1 John 3:23 that so which commandment is the commandment to keep? thank you. or i guess we just be like oh i believe in jesus now back to the 10 commandments is that it? that's why it's not for us surely you must see that this is making sense what's i'm trying to tell you for your own good...

Josh,, all 10 of Gods Commandments are reinterated in the new Testement. Contrary to popular belief, the Law is not void.

 

[josh123]

josh,, "Here is the patience of the saints: here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus." Rev 14:12

Obedience is the service and allegiance of Love,,,,it is the true test of discipleship and a natural fruit of faith in Jesus Christ.

do you follow the 10 commandments perfectly? surely you must since you say you love god because he said “If you love me, you will keep my commandments. [h=3]John 14:15 surely you work 6 days of the your the entire time since you realise this was the commandments that god told us to keep? i'm sure you never look at anything and covet against it, that includes nor any thing that is thy neighbour's which is pretty much everything that everyone else own ( car dog,sheep,cow,house,wife, etc anything) so tell me how you keep these commandments perfectly and always work 6 days [/h]

 

[josh123]

il show you what happens when we do god's first commandment 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. [h=3]1 John 3:23 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: John 1:12[/h]

 

[josh123]

but hey how can you believe in him that isn't in the 10 commandments, is it?

 

[josh123]

Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. [h=3]Romans 12:2 hey how can we know the will of god and get a renewal of our mind, when the only way to know is to believe in jesus but that isn't in the 10 commandments guess this isn't for us?[/h]

 

[josh123]

4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. [h=3]1 John 5:4 hey i thought the only way to be born again by god is to believe on him, and this say that is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith, but hey to believe on jesus isn't in the 10 commandments so i guess this isn't for us?[/h]

 

[josh123]

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. [h=3]John 3:5 i thought the only way to be born of the spirit is to believe and have faith in god but that isn't in the 10 commandments so i guess this isn't for us? [/h]

 

[Michael50]

do you follow the 10 commandments perfectly? surely you must since you say you love god because he said “If you love me, you will keep my commandments. John 14:15 surely you work 6 days of the your the entire time since you realise this was the commandments that god told us to keep? i'm sure you never look at anything and covet against it, that includes nor any thing that is thy neighbour's which is pretty much everything that everyone else own ( car dog,sheep,cow,house,wife, etc anything) so tell me how you keep these commandments perfectly and always work 6 days

Josh,, I do all my work 6 days,, but the 7th day is the Sabbath,, I don't work on that day.. Nobody in my house works that day... I schedule nothing to be done on my property on Sabbath. It's rather easy.. I've been doing this for 18 years.

I love Sabbath,, I rest, my kids rest, we worship,,we separate ourselves from the world on that day. I don't golf on Sabbath, I don't cut grass on Sabbath.


Josh,, if you believe that God commanded us to work constantly for 6 days in a row,, even if all our work is done,,, then you don't understand the Commandment.. Sure hope that isn't the case... But if it is,, we can go ahead and stop now... I'm now about to untangle that mess, for you. Do it yourself.

I don't desire my neighbors wife. I have my own. I love my wife. I don't covet anything my neighbors has.. if you do,, then you need to deal with your own personal problems.

God grants us grace through faith. He also gives us the desire and strength to obey Him. This results in compliance to His Laws.

 

[josh123]

Josh,, I do all my work 6 days,, but the 7th day is the Sabbath,, I don't work on that day.. Nobody in my house works that day... I schedule nothing to be done on my property on Sabbath. It's rather easy.. I've been doing this for 18 years.

I love Sabbath,, I rest, my kids rest, we worship,,we separate ourselves from the world on that day. I don't golf on Sabbath, I don't cut grass on Sabbath.


Josh,, if you believe that God commanded us to work constantly for 6 days in a row,, even if all our work is done,,, then you don't understand the Commandment.. Sure hope that isn't the case... But if it is,, we can go ahead and stop now... I'm now about to untangle that mess, for you. Do it yourself.

I don't desire my neighbors wife. I have my own. I love my wife. I don't covet anything my neighbors has.. if you do,, then you need to deal with your own personal problems.

God grants us grace through faith. He also gives us the desire and strength to obey Him. This results in compliance to His Laws.

so your telling me you work 6 days constantly for the past 18 years? interesting.