Virginity

[resurrection33]

There is hardly anything so valuable to a single person than their virginity. Don’t let Satan tempt you into losing it before you get married.

 

[GreenNnice]

The Lord leads. Waiting is perfect, I think, I'm still waiting. And, if haven't, that's OK, too, of course, He Loves us for MUCH more than that sin, we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Christ died for ALL sinners.

But, yes, ressurectedtoLife, he is saying good words, I don't want to taint them, but, just live in Him, He is in you and mistakes we have made are THROWN into the sea of forgetfulness and gone, gone, gone, in His mind, so, make them gone in yours

WE are just , when we sin,to DO what God said to Mary Magdalene and the Pharasees who accused this lady of her sin (of adultery).

Jesus said when they accused Mary M. , "Whoever is without sin cast the first stone."
Out of the whole gaggle of men, not one could say they were without sin, they knew. We ALL know. We ALL have sin, but, the precious blood of Jesus covers ALL our sins, past, present, future, when we give THEM to Him 1 John 1:9

But, after the men all scattered, Jesus said to Mary M. who likely wondered what Jesus was going to say to her. "Neither do I condemn , go and sin no more. " And , here are the verses that let us know that we are, indeed, covered by His Love, by His blood

he teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women.Now what do you say?” 6They were using this question as a trap,in order to have a basis for accusing him.But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stoneat her.” 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

11“No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,”Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

The Lord leads, we will fall many times in life, in many ways, and, God will be there EVERY time to pick us up, when we sin.

Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

Oh how He Loves you and me

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Because He Loves us. Scripture says too ,regarding the 'cast' word, 'Cast all you cares on Him, for He cares for you." 1 Peter 3:7

 

[permen]

There is hardly anything so valuable to a single person than their virginity. Don’t let Satan tempt you into losing it before you get married.

ok, then how about people who already lost it before they got saved/married? are they less valuable than those who are still keeping it? c'mon now.. you're just like my mom/dad, i really don't like this kind of thought.. but don't get it twisted though, i'm not saying that losing your virginity before marriage is ok.

 

[zaoman32]

The more we put our eyes on sexual matters, the more our minds are on sexual matters.

 

[GreenNnice]

The more we put our eyes on sexual matters, the more our minds are on sexual matters.

Yes,zaoofmen. we are to cleave to that which is good, holy, and, His for us. We know what that is, do we want to focus our mind on those spiritual things is the question.

When we see a topic like this, we should affix our thoughts on spiritual things:

so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace,

If we focus our minds on Earthly things, then, that is what will drain into our mind, yet, if we focus on spiritual things then that is what will drain into our mind and with the incoming of spiritual becomes the outgoing of eathly thought of 'world' things, more and more. I think of it as a cup of water full of earthly things. And, when we accept Christ, it takes time, and, choices but we do want spiritual things more, if we are of God's Spirit in us--and you are IF you have chosen Him, accepted the Holy Spirit, simply, by faith Then, we will crave more and more spiritual things into our life, and, as those 'things' pour in the cup of water drains out the earthly things until only the new, spiritual is in there, mostly in there, let's say, because we are not perfect and never will be perfect. Only one was ever perfect on Earth, Jesus

6The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. 9You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[SUP]d[/SUP] because of righteousness. 11And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[SUP]e[/SUP] his Spirit who lives in you.

 

[Chainhand]

The thing that should be more important to us is our relationship with Jesus. If we get this straight, by His grace, fear of giving in to the other thing will be a non-issue.

While I agree that it is a good thing to do, I kind of feel like these kinds of threads set a negative tone to folks who have given in and need support from their brothers and sisters.

 

[seoulsearch]

There is hardly anything so valuable to a single person than their virginity. Don’t let Satan tempt you into losing it before you get married.

I might be seen as evil for doing this, but I personally feel that when OP's write threads like this, they should also share their own story with the rest of us.

So, when writing a thread about such a topic as an original poster, please tell us:

1. Were you a virgin when you got married, if you ever did marry? If so, how did you manage to stay pure and what practical tips do you have for the rest of us?

2. If you weren't or aren't a virgin, what caused you to stray and what did you learn that you can share with the rest of us about getting back on track?

It may be just me, but I feel it's unfair to make statements about what the rest of us need to be doing (even if they're Biblical, and even if they're well-intended) without telling us about yourself first.

That's why my threads are so dang long. I try not to post a thread unless I can share something relevant from my own life. Not that it's a necessity, of course... But there is too much talking without the walking and we need to know your walk before we'll listen to the talk.

Just my own opinion though.

 

[GRA]

There is hardly anything so valuable to a single person than their virginity. Don’t let Satan tempt you into losing it before you get married.

ok, then how about people who already lost it before they got saved/married? are they less valuable than those who are still keeping it? c'mon now.. you're just like my mom/dad, i really don't like this kind of thought.. but don't get it twisted though, i'm not saying that losing your virginity before marriage is ok.

The OP said:

There is hardly anything so valuable to a single person than their virginity. Don’t let Satan tempt you into losing it before you get married.

NOT:

There is hardly anything so valuable as a single person who is still a virgin. Don’t let Satan tempt you into losing it before you get married.

The statement is referring to the value of a person's virginity as viewed by that person -- not the value of a person as viewed by others...

 

[presidente]

So, when writing a thread about such a topic as an original poster, please tell us:

1. Were you a virgin when you got married, if you ever did marry? If so, how did you manage to stay pure and what practical tips do you have for the rest of us?

I'm not the OP, but i was a virgin when I got married, and I thought I'd share some of the ways I stayed a virgin.

First of all, I did not date in high school. I wasn't exactly shy, but I was about the whole topic of dating, maybe the result of being teased a bit by my mom in my early teen years. Also, I was picky about looks and was looking for a serious believer with similar beliefs to my own. I never really found anyone that fit my criteria. Not dating helps prevent temptation. Aside from a couple of sort of dates in college and immediately after, I didn't start dating until I hit maybe 22 or 23. I did not date much.

I tried to be careful with my hands, and sought to avoid fornication. I did kiss, something I probably wouldn't have done if I had it to do over.

I also studied the Bible intensely growing up, memorizing books of scripture as a part of a teen Bible quiz program. I also read the Old Testament. Studying about two being one flesh helped me. Seeing that if a man took a girl's virginity in the Old Testament helped me. Studying about a death penalty for virgin girls who lost their virginity and were married off with virgins in the Old Testament helped me. Knowing that adultery was a death penalty crime in the Old Testament helped me. The passage in I Corinthians 6, that fornicators do not inherit the kingdom of God, and that he who fornicates sins against his own body helped me.

What if I were to fornicate with a girl, and then felt that to do the right thing before God, I should marry her. Would I really want to choose a woman for life based on lust? What if she did not want to marry and I had no access to my child? What if I had a one-night stand, and there was some child out there who was mine that I never got to know? If I were made one flesh with some girl I went out with, would I feel free to marry someone else? If I took a woman's virginity and did not marry her, that would be a terrible thing to do to her. And if she'd been joined sexually with another man, should I be joined with her?

All of these thoughts reinforced the idea for me that I should remain a virgin until marriage.

My study of the word led me to be anti-divorce, and I was looking for a woman who wouldn't divorce me that I could be married to for life. That's an important criteria. Don't marry someone with wishy-washy ideas about divorce.

 

[GreenNnice]

I'm not the OP, but i was a virgin when I got married, and I thought I'd share some of the ways I stayed a virgin.

First of all, I did not date in high school. I wasn't exactly shy, but I was about the whole topic of dating, maybe the result of being teased a bit by my mom in my early teen years. Also, I was picky about looks and was looking for a serious believer with similar beliefs to my own. I never really found anyone that fit my criteria. Not dating helps prevent temptation. Aside from a couple of sort of dates in college and immediately after, I didn't start dating until I hit maybe 22 or 23. I did not date much.

I tried to be careful with my hands, and sought to avoid fornication. I did kiss, something I probably wouldn't have done if I had it to do over.

I also studied the Bible intensely growing up, memorizing books of scripture as a part of a teen Bible quiz program. I also read the Old Testament. Studying about two being one flesh helped me. Seeing that if a man took a girl's virginity in the Old Testament helped me. Studying about a death penalty for virgin girls who lost their virginity and were married off with virgins in the Old Testament helped me. Knowing that adultery was a death penalty crime in the Old Testament helped me. The passage in I Corinthians 6, that fornicators do not inherit the kingdom of God, and that he who fornicates sins against his own body helped me.

What if I were to fornicate with a girl, and then felt that to do the right thing before God, I should marry her. Would I really want to choose a woman for life based on lust? What if she did not want to marry and I had no access to my child? What if I had a one-night stand, and there was some child out there who was mine that I never got to know? If I were made one flesh with some girl I went out with, would I feel free to marry someone else? If I took a woman's virginity and did not marry her, that would be a terrible thing to do to her. And if she'd been joined sexually with another man, should I be joined with her?

All of these thoughts reinforced the idea for me that I should remain a virgin until marriage.

My study of the word led me to be anti-divorce, and I was looking for a woman who wouldn't divorce me that I could be married to for life. That's an important criteria. Don't marry someone with wishy-washy ideas about divorce.

Excellently well said, wise wisdom, I think, in these words by elpresidente.
Also, the idea of 'I' can be good, but it MUST be laced with 'Him,' too, we have no power of ourserlf to keep from sex before marriage, but, with Him, we have aLL the power we need. We are not able on our own to keep from doing things, we must pray constantly to God for keeping us out of situations that will compromise our ability to stay out of trouble with a girl, if dating, or, if not dating and just going out and doing things. I am confident that God has protected me more than once in situations where a girl has become attracted to me and I to her and I knew it was not right and I just let the Lord lead my flesh through things with His Spirit overriding that in me by Him in me

 

[greenguy23]

Look at all the people getting defensive you get props from everyone else in society for all the sex you have CAN I GET SOMETHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT? No seriously being a virgin sucks even in this forum I'm in the minority. I might as well lose it to a hooker so I can be like all the rest of the people in this forum saying "wait god doesn't really think your better for that" well god doesn't think your any better for not smoking or drinking there.

 

[resurrection33]

ok, then how about people who already lost it before they got saved/married? are they less valuable than those who are still keeping it? c'mon now.. you're just like my mom/dad, i really don't like this kind of thought.. but don't get it twisted though, i'm not saying that losing your virginity before marriage is ok.

Those of us who didn't wait have challenges others don't have.

 

[resurrection33]

The more we put our eyes on sexual matters, the more our minds are on sexual matters.

No, we must instruct those that come after us.

 

[resurrection33]

The thing that should be more important to us is our relationship with Jesus. If we get this straight, by His grace, fear of giving in to the other thing will be a non-issue.

While I agree that it is a good thing to do, I kind of feel like these kinds of threads set a negative tone to folks who have given in and need support from their brothers and sisters.

Part of our relationship with Jesus is obeying his commandments. He told us not to fornicate (Mark 7:20-23). He told us to not even look lustfully at people (Matt 5:28).

 

[resurrection33]

I might be seen as evil for doing this, but I personally feel that when OP's write threads like this, they should also share their own story with the rest of us.

So, when writing a thread about such a topic as an original poster, please tell us:

1. Were you a virgin when you got married, if you ever did marry? If so, how did you manage to stay pure and what practical tips do you have for the rest of us?

2. If you weren't or aren't a virgin, what caused you to stray and what did you learn that you can share with the rest of us about getting back on track?

It may be just me, but I feel it's unfair to make statements about what the rest of us need to be doing (even if they're Biblical, and even if they're well-intended) without telling us about yourself first.

That's why my threads are so dang long. I try not to post a thread unless I can share something relevant from my own life. Not that it's a necessity, of course... But there is too much talking without the walking and we need to know your walk before we'll listen to the talk.

Just my own opinion though.

Jesus told us not to fornicate (Mark 7:20-23). That is all I have to say.

 

[seoulsearch]

Thanks for reiterating the point.

I do understand.

I was raised in church, so I realize this is God's rule. However, and this is probably just a personal pet peeve of mine, after a lifetime of hearing "the rules", I've just grown weary of people who stand behind iron curtains while "preaching the Word."

I always gravitate towards people who are actually willing to share their trials and triumphs while reminding us of Biblical principles rather than performing "Wizard of Oz"-type bellowings...

But, again, it's just my own opinion.

It doesn't take much to share a principle. It takes a lot more to share yourself.

 

[resurrection33]

Thanks for reiterating the point.

I do understand.

I was raised in church, so I realize this is God's rule. However, and this is probably just a personal pet peeve of mine, after a lifetime of hearing "the rules", I've just grown weary of people who stand behind iron curtains while "preaching the Word."

I always gravitate towards people who are actually willing to share their trials and triumphs while reminding us of Biblical principles rather than performing "Wizard of Oz"-type bellowings...

But, again, it's just my own opinion.

It doesn't take much to share a principle. It takes a lot more to share yourself.

My advice in the original post was sound. It was meant to help single people who haven't lost their virginity yet.

I wish I would have held on to mine. Those of us who gave up our virginity, without first marrying, have serious challenges to deal with afterwards. Otherwise, the Lord wouldn't have commanded us not to fornicate.

 

[seoulsearch]

Thank you for sharing, Resurrection.

God forgives and heals us all, no matter what mistakes we've all made. Even those who have managed to preserve their virginity still fall to temptations.

God bless.

 

[resurrection33]

Thank you for sharing, Resurrection.

God forgives and heals us all, no matter what mistakes we've all made. Even those who have managed to preserve their virginity still fall to temptations.

God bless.

God forgives and heals, but life is a whole lot easier when we resist temptation.

 

[AliaJ]

I always wonder how single Christian men view women who are no longer virgins. Do they seek and/or value these women more?

I've never dated a Christian man before, so this is all new to me.