Mark of the beast RFID or not?

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the rfid is technology. what is taught in the bible is not dependent on the technology of humanity. in the o.p. you speak of the mark of yawhew, again i do not think God is dependent on technology. choosing between God or the devil is a spiritual choice and the mark will be a spiritual marking. until such time as those things come to pass remember, the eyes are the lamp of the soul. you cannot hide the truth in your eyes today. you will not be able to hide the mark tomorrow.

duewell
mark 4 v 11-13
 
Tintin said:
I don't see how owning a smartphone determines my salvation and what side I belong too. It's just silly. What happens if I have one already, am I damned? Even if I get rid of it? I don't know who let's these threads exist.
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again.. why would the mark of the beast be obvious? and you are doing exactly what the devil would want you to do.. act like its a joke. the second you dont take it serious, is the second he has you wrapped. have to be careful.

i already said im not sure, but i sure as heck am careful... like i said in my 1st post, that you like to overlook,

"but im not sure, i have a cheap smart phone from wal-mart but i have been contemplating trading it in for a basic flip phone or something."
 
Doesn't matter what the mark of the beast is or if you receive it.
Only matters if you worship the beast and his image and receive his mark in your forehead or hand.
Read carefully my friends. Identifying the beast is the crucial thing, not identifying his mark.
 
Huckleberry said:
Doesn't matter what the mark of the beast is or if you receive it.
Only matters if you worship the beast and his image and receive his mark in your forehead or hand.
Read carefully my friends. Identifying the beast is the crucial thing, not identifying his mark.
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Revelation 14:9-10, "And the third malak followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man worships the beast and his likeness, and receives his mark in his forehead or upon his hand, The same will drink of the wine of the wrath of Yahweh."

Worship is obedience, are you obedient to your earthly kings?

Revelation 17:18, "And the woman whom you saw, is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."

Then you worship the beast.

Revelation 17:4, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication."

purple and scarlet color
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Seriously? Picking on Catholics again? They wear crimson robes to remind themselves of Jesus blood shed on the cross for us. Others wear purple robes to remind themselves of Jesus royalty. I don't think Catholics are perfect but there are wolves amongst all denominations and non-denominations.
 
Tintin said:
Seriously? Picking on Catholics again? They wear crimson robes to remind themselves of Jesus blood shed on the cross for us. Others wear purple robes to remind themselves of Jesus royalty. I don't think Catholics are perfect but there are wolves amongst all denominations and non-denominations.
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Picking on Catholics?

IT IS MYSTERY BABYLON PROCLAIMED BY THE MOUTH OF YAHSHUA.

They fit EVERY prophecy made about Mystery Babylon

Was Yahweh "picking on" satan when He kicked it out of the heavens?

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/72182-sabbath-confusion.html
 
Hat of Dagon the Fish god of the Philistines
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Garb of the priests of Horus (egypt)
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but yeah most churches teach not to call evil out into the light
 
Hizikyah said:
Revelation 14:9-10, "And the third malak followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man worships the beast and his likeness, and receives his mark in his forehead or upon his hand, The same will drink of the wine of the wrath of Yahweh."

Worship is obedience, are you obedient to your earthly kings?

Revelation 17:18, "And the woman whom you saw, is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."

Then you worship the beast.

Revelation 17:4, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication."
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I'm not Catholic. What's your point?
Again, you better be able to identify the beast.
It will arrive looking just like Jesus,
and with a lot more credibility than the RCC.
 
Hizikyah said:
Revelation 14:9-10, "And the third malak followed them, saying with a loud voice: If any man worships the beast and his likeness, and receives his mark in his forehead or upon his hand, The same will drink of the wine of the wrath of Yahweh."

Worship is obedience, are you obedient to your earthly kings?

Revelation 17:18, "And the woman whom you saw, is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."

Then you worship the beast.

Revelation 17:4, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication."

purple and scarlet color
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those are scriptures describing Babylon the Great Whore... which is USA.
 
A sneaky SDA cult member doing it again. Why can't they ever just come on CC and state which cult they are associated with? This subterfuge and lying by omission gets old after awhile.

Seventh-day Adventism is a reflection of its false prophetess, Ellen G. White who claimed to have "visions" after a rock met with her head. It is inseparably united to her writings, which are considered to be an authoritative source of truth for the SDA church. The subsequent twisting of scripture to align with the false prophetess is what is purveyed by SDA'rs and I've observed usually deceitfully.

False prophetess + twisting scripture to align with the false prophetess + deceitful presentation = SDA apologetics.
 
Imperfect said:
those are scriptures describing Babylon the Great Whore... which is USA.
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If it were United States ONLY how does 7 hills, purple and scarlett, changing Laws, 666, and DRUNK WITH THE BLOOD OF THE SAINTS FIT?

Revelation 17:18, "And the woman whom you saw, is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth."

Europe is the economic branch and the United States is the military branch of Mystery Babylon, the image of the beast. Have you even seen the speech President Kennedy gave about sceret societies? In which he says, "no pope should tell the president what to do." Thats not the only proof, if you watch the "Revelation" and "upon her head a name was written" videos you will see where im coming from.

Hizikyah YHWH - YouTube
 
No!
Absolutely not!
The mark is spiritual like the rest of the Bible.
"My words are Spirit and they are truth, the flesh profits nothing." John 6:63
 
AgeofKnowledge said:
A sneaky SDA cult member doing it again. Why can't they ever just come on CC and state which cult they are associated with? This subterfuge and lying by omission gets old after awhile.

Seventh-day Adventism is a reflection of its false prophetess, Ellen G. White who claimed to have "visions" after a rock met with her head. It is inseparably united to her writings, which are considered to be an authoritative source of truth for the SDA church. The subsequent twisting of scripture to align with the false prophetess is what is purveyed by SDA'rs and I've observed usually deceitfully.

False prophetess + twisting scripture to align with the false prophetess + deceitful presentation = SDA apologetics.
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Are you saying im a SDA? I am not, while they do teach some truth, I agree Ellen White was a false prophet. When you make "prophecies" and they dont come true that is the exact scriptual definition of a false prophet. I don't align myself with any "mega-church" or denomonation. I consider myself a member of the body of the Messiah. However, name 1 denomonation of man that does not teach at minimum 1 lie? Thats why I don't join in to any of them.
 
I guess Ezekiel was a false prophet then, (no chapter 38 through 40 yet).
And Isaiah died well before chapter 53 happened.
And Daniel.....good grief....what a false prophet, all those prophecies took place well after his death.
I guess we need to hold the transcripts for a certain number of years then burn them?
- - What 5- 6 hundred is the cutoff?
- - - How about a millenium?
 
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If I am mistaken I am open to correction, however did not Ellen White predict the return of the Messiah twice and both of those dates are past?

I do have to say she did do alot of great historical research that I think all learn from, and I agree with Sabbath but there are some SDA doctrines i disagree with and false prophecies too?

The new SDA guy Walter he does some awesome historical research also BTW
 
The SDA is a cultish offshoot of the already dieing denomination it sprang from.
- More observing days.
- - "This day is more holy than the other"
- - - Called vain superstition and Paul addresses it as such.

Tell me, what did the writer of the book of Hebrews mean when he said - "labor to enter into that rest"?
 
RickShafer said:
The SDA is a cultish offshoot of the already dieing denomination it sprang from.
- More observing days.
- - "This day is more holy than the other"
- - - Called vain superstition and Paul addresses it as such.

Tell me, what did the writer of the book of Hebrews mean when he said - "labor to enter into that rest"?
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Are you calling the 4th Commandment "vain superstition"

Are you talking about Hebrews chapter 4?
 
1. Are you teaching that Sunday worship is the "mark of the beast"?

2. Which cult do you associate with?

Hizikyah said:
Are you saying im a SDA? I am not, while they do teach some truth, I agree Ellen White was a false prophet. When you make "prophecies" and they dont come true that is the exact scriptual definition of a false prophet. I don't align myself with any "mega-church" or denomonation. I consider myself a member of the body of the Messiah. However, name 1 denomonation of man that does not teach at minimum 1 lie? Thats why I don't join in to any of them.
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AgeofKnowledge said:
1. Are you teaching that Sunday worship is the "mark of the beast"?

2. Which cult do you associate with?
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Tell me this, is the catholic Church not the religious branch of mystery babylon?

And is this the mark of Yahweh of not?

Exodus 13:9, "And it shall be as a *sign to you upon your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that Yahweh's Law shall be in your mouth; for with a strong hand Yahweh has brought you out of Egypt."

*Sign is Word #226, Hebrew Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning mark, token, sign, consent, flag, evidence of consent.Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."

Ezekiel 20:12, "Moreover, I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I am Yahweh Who sanctifies them."

If you please answer my questions I would be glad to answer yours.
 
duewell said:
the rfid is technology. what is taught in the bible is not dependent on the technology of humanity. in the o.p. you speak of the mark of yawhew, again i do not think God is dependent on technology. choosing between God or the devil is a spiritual choice and the mark will be a spiritual marking. until such time as those things come to pass remember, the eyes are the lamp of the soul. you cannot hide the truth in your eyes today. you will not be able to hide the mark tomorrow.

duewell
mark 4 v 11-13
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Yeah the title was a question, my post stated that i did not think the RFID to be the actual mark, but a way of enforcement, did you even read it?
 
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