Abortion and birth controll right or wrong

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Are Abortion or Birth controll ok or wrong

  • Abortion is wrong in all cases

    Votes: 84 53.2%

  • Abortion is ok only to save mother from death or similar reason

    Votes: 42 26.6%

  • Same as above but also ok if rape or similar violece have happened.

    Votes: 26 16.5%

  • Birth controll is wrong

    Votes: 25 15.8%

  • Birth controll is ok but not in all forms

    Votes: 47 29.7%

  • All forms of birth controll is ok

    Votes: 36 22.8%
  • Total voters
    158
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GraceRevelation

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#121
#121
I believe that abortion is wrong in all cases and scenarios. Killing another human being is not okay in any situation, how can you decide another persons fate? Even if it's to save the mother's life..call on God, don't have innocent blood on your hands.

Now for birth control (I have done research on this subject). The side effects of birth-control whether it be in pill form, an injection, or some other form. Most of them release a good deal of hormones into your body, which in turn is going to have side affects because that's just not how we were made. Here are some:


  • Heart disease, high blood pressure, and blood clots
  • Nausea, headaches, sore breasts, and weight gain
  • Irregular bleeding
  • Depression

The one that doesn't work through hormones is the diaphragm with spermicide. It just kind of is a pain to use. I would really do my homework before committing to anything that is going to be messing with your mental and physical health.
 
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Edson

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#123
#123
Married couples have sex and make love. Outside of that, it's all SIN. Debate it, argue it, find ways to move around it. We are tought by the ways of the Lord that we are ought to save sex, or make love when we are married.

Hard to do? Hek yes. But its the way if we trully want to live according to the ways of our Lord

Blessings
Edson Klaassen
 
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colalella2891

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#125
#125
I don't think abortion is right at all... When it comes to saving the mother's life, idk... That's a tough one. It seems kind of wrong to me to say, "Let the mother die; since abortion is wrong, don't do it." So yeah that's a sensitive area. God is bigger than anything so in a situation like that He could save both, but still.

I think birth control is completely fine, because if women didn't use it they'd keep having more and more babies. My grandma had 11 kids because she and my grandpa didn't believe in birth control (They're catholic). I think 11 kids is nuts, just my opinion though. However, as stated before there are some terrible side-effects with birth control, so yes women should be careful which one they choose to use.

Condoms are always an alternative too I suppose.
 
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fourleaf

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#126
#126
i voted no for abortion in all cases even if you're married. its much more worse than committing suicide you know, taking an innocent life...
 
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saydee

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#127
#127
I believe that in some cases abortion should be an option for the mothers. For example, when she was raped. Can you imagine the pain and the guilt a mother must feel when looking at her child and maybe not being able to fully love it since it reminds her of the rapist and the horrible incident? This isn't fair, neither to her nor to the child. And please don't tell me that rape happens for a reason or that she asked for it by dressing / acting that way. NO woman asks for being raped. It's not like the woman slept around, she didn't get pregnant for something she did. If she's raped and wants to keep the child, that's wonderful, but if not then she isn't to be judged. After all, it was the rapist who commited the sin.

As for birth control, I think there's nothing wrong about that. When you decide to have children, you have great responsibility, not only for taking care of them, but also guiding them in their christian faith. If you don't feel like you are mature enough or can't be the kind of parent you want to be at the moment, then why say no to birth control? God wants you to love your children and surely takes quality over quantity :)
 
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nathan3

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#128
It's wrong. Strange how people don't consider letting the kid have a chance at life also, or consider giving the child to other people who might actually want to adopt a child...

Abortion is wrong and barbaric . Since this is what the thread is about, that is my view.
 
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jimmydiggs

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#129
#129
saydee said:
I believe that in some cases abortion should be an option for the mothers. For example, when she was raped. Can you imagine the pain and the guilt a mother must feel when looking at her child and maybe not being able to fully love it since it reminds her of the rapist and the horrible incident? This isn't fair, neither to her nor to the child.
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So, if I hit you, you get to hit your child, right?
 
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Powemm

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#130
#130
there is more than one way to murder.
To say its wrong Holds me accountable in every other area..
Looks
Tones
Words
Actions
Attitudes
Gossip

i think i will continue working in other areas ive murdered in before responding to this one.
To say im above every sin? Pride would love for me to say that i am.. The Spirit has humbled me to know that im not
 
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TheAristocat

TheAristocat

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Deuteronomy 22:6-7 "If, as you are walking along, you happen to see a bird’s nest in a tree or on the ground with chicks or eggs, and the mother bird is sitting on the chicks or the eggs, you are not to take the mother with the chicks. You must let the mother go, but you may take the chicks for yourself; so that things will go well with you, and you will prolong your life."

Which is better? To kill the child in order that the mother can live or to let the child die in order that the mother also dies? Or is it better to kill the child and let the mother live or let the mother die in order that the child live? In theory I would choose "Abortion is ok only to save mother from death or similar reason". However, I doubt if we can know with certainty when a pregnancy would end a woman's life. But that's one of the few times - if not the only time - I would allow that option. So it really depends on the circumstance.
 
Nautilus

Nautilus

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#132
wisebeardman said:
simple solution everyone forgets dont want kids dont have sex.
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Thats probably not an answer for a married couple who want to enjoy that part of their relationship but dont want kids
 
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colalella2891

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#133
#133
saydee said:
I believe that in some cases abortion should be an option for the mothers. For example, when she was raped. Can you imagine the pain and the guilt a mother must feel when looking at her child and maybe not being able to fully love it since it reminds her of the rapist and the horrible incident? This isn't fair, neither to her nor to the child. And please don't tell me that rape happens for a reason or that she asked for it by dressing / acting that way. NO woman asks for being raped. It's not like the woman slept around, she didn't get pregnant for something she did. If she's raped and wants to keep the child, that's wonderful, but if not then she isn't to be judged. After all, it was the rapist who commited the sin.
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I have to disagree... I mean yes, it's a tragedy when a woman is raped, but God works all things together for His good, so if a baby is a result then something good came out of it. An example: My dad's mom (my grandma) was raped, and my dad was the result of it. He did feel empty without a father since the rapist was never identified, but if my grandma had an abortion he would have never existed, and neither would I.

I've seen other reports of women who were raped, and it resulted in a baby. They say that their baby is still a blessing.

But it's your opinion and I still respect it. :)
 
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saydee

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#134
#134
colalella2891 said:
I have to disagree... I mean yes, it's a tragedy when a woman is raped, but God works all things together for His good, so if a baby is a result then something good came out of it. An example: My dad's mom (my grandma) was raped, and my dad was the result of it. He did feel empty without a father since the rapist was never identified, but if my grandma had an abortion he would have never existed, and neither would I.

I've seen other reports of women who were raped, and it resulted in a baby. They say that their baby is still a blessing.

But it's your opinion and I still respect it. :)
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First off, thanks for respecting my opinion - i know it's not a popular one amongst many people in this forum :)

Now, as I mentioned, it's wonderful when a woman decides to keep the baby! Your grandma is a strong woman and I'm sure she did a great job raising your dad/ being there for you as well! I just wanted to point out that people should be given a choice when they have been raped. A friend of mine is a "result" of rape and he wasn't as fortunate as your dad - his relationship to his mum is complicated, although they both try hard to work on it and she admits that this is connected to what has happened to her. I know, it's just one example, but it hurts seeing both of them struggle with it and knowing there are so many others in the same situation :(

Anyways, give my regards to your grandma -I honestly think she's an amazingly strong woman! :)
 
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saydee

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#135
#135
jimmydiggs said:
So, if I hit you, you get to hit your child, right?
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No, if you "hit" me, someone gets to hit your face. Seriously, this is extremely disrespectful, especially given that I never said that I personally consider abortion as an option for me.
I just stated my opinion on this sensitive topic. And you might want to consider there are women here who have been sexually abused - maybe try some less offensive way to get your opinion across.
 
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tedjoh

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#136
Not about a women's right. It's about the right of a helpless, defenseless child who did NOT ask to enter the world what about his or her right to life... Dah! Abused or not give the child away if it is not wanted by the mother. Someone else would love to have it and care for it. Children are a blessing from the Lord and it doesn't only mean the ones that are planned.
 
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MidniteWelder

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#137
#137
saydee said:
No, if you "hit" me, someone gets to hit your face. Seriously, this is extremely disrespectful, especially given that I never said that I personally consider abortion as an option for me.
I just stated my opinion on this sensitive topic. And you might want to consider there are women here who have been sexually abused - maybe try some less offensive way to get your opinion across.
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I believe his point was...maybe try some less offensive way of expressing dissatisfaction with unwanted pregnancy or rape than to murder an innocent party and make the child have to pay the penalty for what someone else did.
 
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colalella2891

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#138
#138
saydee said:
First off, thanks for respecting my opinion - i know it's not a popular one amongst many people in this forum :)

Now, as I mentioned, it's wonderful when a woman decides to keep the baby! Your grandma is a strong woman and I'm sure she did a great job raising your dad/ being there for you as well! I just wanted to point out that people should be given a choice when they have been raped. A friend of mine is a "result" of rape and he wasn't as fortunate as your dad - his relationship to his mum is complicated, although they both try hard to work on it and she admits that this is connected to what has happened to her. I know, it's just one example, but it hurts seeing both of them struggle with it and knowing there are so many others in the same situation :(

Anyways, give my regards to your grandma -I honestly think she's an amazingly strong woman! :)
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Thanks for your nice words. :) And your friend's mom is most definitely a strong woman as well. But if the mother who was raped doesn't want the baby then they should just give it up for adoption. That's always the better alternative than depriving the child of life in my opinion.

Give my regards to your friend as well, I'll pray for him and his relationship with his mom. It must be hard on them.
 
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saydee

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#139
#139
colalella2891 said:
Thanks for your nice words. :) And your friend's mom is most definitely a strong woman as well. But if the mother who was raped doesn't want the baby then they should just give it up for adoption. That's always the better alternative than depriving the child of life in my opinion.

Give my regards to your friend as well, I'll pray for him and his relationship with his mom. It must be hard on them.
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Thank you, I will pass your kind words on to him :)
Of course adoption is always an option, a very good one in fact. I mean, hey, I myself don't like abortion and would not consider it in case of a pregnancy, but I know what sexual abuse can do to a you and I don't even want to imagine what rape resulting in pregnancy must feel like. I'm just sorry many people don't consider the psychological damages the woman has gone through (which would be hard enough to deal with even without a baby on the way).

Anyways, I think I'll stop posting in this thread from now on, given that most people who read my 1st post (if they even did) simply thought I was running around being absolute pro-abortion when all I was saying was to maybe feel some compassion with a raped woman struggeling with this decision. Have a good day everyone :)
 
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jimmydiggs

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saydee said:
No, if you "hit" me, someone gets to hit your face.
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Jesus said to turn the other cheek.


Seriously, this is extremely disrespectful, especially given that I never said that I personally consider abortion as an option for me.
I just stated my opinion on this sensitive topic. And you might want to consider there are women here who have been sexually abused - maybe try some less offensive way to get your opinion across.
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You said abortion should be available for rape. We both understand Rape is wrong, but how does rape justifty further wrong-doing?
 
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