Attack of the seventh day adventists
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Hmmm,
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
The New Covenant is made with whom?
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Heb 8:11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
The New Covenant is made with whom?
this covenant is made with israel, this is the covenant for the believers, in other words what will happen when we truly accept christ 15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
[h=3]Hebrews 10:15-17[/h]
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
[h=3]Hebrews 10:15-17[/h]
there is no law to follow all we must do is truly be born again and when we are the love for God and others come with that, but don't take my word for it 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
[h=3]Hebrews 10:10-17[/h]
law is only to show us that we are doing wrong it doesn't tell us how to stop but when we truly are born again their is no law against us our nature and mind has been reformed
[h=3]Hebrews 10:10-17[/h]
law is only to show us that we are doing wrong it doesn't tell us how to stop but when we truly are born again their is no law against us our nature and mind has been reformed
Have you all ever heard of something called the "mystery of iniquity?"
iniquity is Word #458 from word #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to (Yahweh's) Laws, transgressor.
2 Thessalonians 2:7-8, "For the mystery of iniquity is already working, but the One restraining him will continue to restrain him, until he is made to appear in the midst. And then that lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will remove with the breath of His mouth, and make powerless with the appearance of His coming."
iniquity is Word #458 from word #459, Greek Dictionary, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, meaning not subject to (Yahweh's) Laws, transgressor.
2 Thessalonians 2:7-8, "For the mystery of iniquity is already working, but the One restraining him will continue to restrain him, until he is made to appear in the midst. And then that lawless one will be revealed, whom Yahshua will remove with the breath of His mouth, and make powerless with the appearance of His coming."
I don't think you really mean that there is no law, for law is love it is completely intertwined. If there were no law there would be no God, earth would only be chaos.
It is true that law separated from God and love is no law at all. We could never tell a lie, support orphans, always go to church and it would be nothing if it wasn't done with Christ and love. God gave us law in order for this love to be expressed, and guides us in how it is best expressed. To ignore it is to ignore God, that leads to death.
It is true that law separated from God and love is no law at all. We could never tell a lie, support orphans, always go to church and it would be nothing if it wasn't done with Christ and love. God gave us law in order for this love to be expressed, and guides us in how it is best expressed. To ignore it is to ignore God, that leads to death.
So, lemme ask, are you above the Law?
Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Hmmm, I am not under the curse of the Law, I am not subject to the penalty of the Law. Does that mean I should not obey the Law?
Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
I am not about to stake my salvation on a faulty interpretation of a passage that is hard to be understood...
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Without a firm foundation of the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself...
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
I read Paul through the lens of the clear statements of Christ. You may read him any way you wish.
Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Hmmm, I am not under the curse of the Law, I am not subject to the penalty of the Law. Does that mean I should not obey the Law?
Mat 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
I am not about to stake my salvation on a faulty interpretation of a passage that is hard to be understood...
2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Without a firm foundation of the teachings of Jesus Christ Himself...
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
I read Paul through the lens of the clear statements of Christ. You may read him any way you wish.
I have received nothing but tzuris (flack) when I ask people to give me what our Lord, Yeshua, teaches on a given subject instead of what Paul has to say. Frankly, anyone who has the option to learn of Yeshua directly instead of from Paul's letters and refuses is suspect to me. I read and learn from Paul, do not get me wrong, but on any given subject taught by our Savior I will hear Him only. Now, I have been accused of not believing Paul, sobeit, however this translates as I believe Yeshua. Is this a crime?
does this make sense.. if someone is truly born again.. would there be a need to them DON'T STEAL, OR KILL ANYONE OR ROB, so the purpose of life is to follow * don't steal don't kill etc* and everything else is fine once we just keep these? does this make any sense to you..so you trying to tell me.. when your born again your eyes get opened up and tell you not to kill steal and always labor for 6 days a week for the rest of your life? i just.. don't know what to say.. you actually believe christianity is based on following a 10 commandments, which tells us what not to do, laws are meant for the lawless... no is no law for a child of God 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
[h=3]Romans 2:14-15[/h]
how does following the 10 commandments makes you righteous..? i just don't understand.. or even know what to say to you all i pray that God may open your eyes.. one day before it is too late
[h=3]Romans 2:14-15[/h]
how does following the 10 commandments makes you righteous..? i just don't understand.. or even know what to say to you all i pray that God may open your eyes.. one day before it is too late
never seen nothing like this in my life.. your making it a cult and don't realise it, your basing christianity about thou shalt not instead of experience the power of Christ to renew your life, if you are truly righteous there should be no need for thou shalt not BECAUSE YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER by the RENEWING OF YOUR MIND AND NATURE but your all.. just neglected the power of christ to truly understand what grace means
does this make sense.. if someone is truly born again.. would there be a need to them DON'T STEAL, OR KILL ANYONE OR ROB, so the purpose of life is to follow * don't steal don't kill etc* and everything else is fine once we just keep these? does this make any sense to you..so you trying to tell me.. when your born again your eyes get opened up and tell you not to kill steal and always labor for 6 days a week for the rest of your life? i just.. don't know what to say.. you actually believe christianity is based on following a 10 commandments, which tells us what not to do, laws are meant for the lawless... no is no law for a child of God 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
Romans 2:14-15
how does following the 10 commandments makes you righteous..? i just don't understand.. or even know what to say to you all i pray that God may open your eyes.. one day before it is too late
Romans 2:14-15
how does following the 10 commandments makes you righteous..? i just don't understand.. or even know what to say to you all i pray that God may open your eyes.. one day before it is too late
there it is right there, this statement told me what is going on, you see when you feel the power in christ in you to transform you nature you won't be trying to do anything or won't be lawless, this is what your not understand, [h=3]2 Corinthians 5:17[/h]King James Version (KJV)
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
see this here you literally become a new CREATURE when you in christ in other words you won't BE TRYING TO DO ANYTHING, THIS IS WHY THEIR IS NO LAW AGAINST THE RIGHTEOUS, God makes you righteous you won't be trying to be righteous it's the only thing you will know to do
[h=3]Romans 6:22[/h]King James Version (KJV)
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
[h=3]Romans 6:18[/h]King James Version (KJV)
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
you become addicted to righteousness you won't be trying to do good or trying to be righteous
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
see this here you literally become a new CREATURE when you in christ in other words you won't BE TRYING TO DO ANYTHING, THIS IS WHY THEIR IS NO LAW AGAINST THE RIGHTEOUS, God makes you righteous you won't be trying to be righteous it's the only thing you will know to do
[h=3]Romans 6:22[/h]King James Version (KJV)
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
[h=3]Romans 6:18[/h]King James Version (KJV)
18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
you become addicted to righteousness you won't be trying to do good or trying to be righteous
look at these testimonies you think these people just decided to change their mind and say let me turn a christian? nooo.. God himself change them they felt the power of christ that power that changes the nature of the heart and mind that power that makes them a slave of righteousness [video=youtube;5XBbJl_49B4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XBbJl_49B4[/video]