SO THEN IT IS A SILLY THING THEY DO IT IS NOT A THEOLOGICAL DILEMMA PROVING THEY ARE NOT WITH GOD. SHEESH! Biblically, you shouldn't be discussing ANY OF THIS AGAINST THEM, but WHO wants the bible to get in the way of good ole fashion bigoted bashing.
THAT IS ONE, and ONLY ONE intercessory prayer.
[h=3]1 Timothy 2:1 ESV / 173 helpful votes[/h]First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people,
[h=3]Matthew 18:19-20 ESV / 129 helpful votes[/h]Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I among them.”
[h=3]Ephesians 6:18 ESV / 66 helpful votes[/h]Praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints,
[h=3]John 16:23-24 ESV / 36 helpful votes[/h]In that day you will ask nothing of me. Truly, truly, I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you. Until now you have asked nothing in my name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.
[h=3]Matthew 7:11 ESV / 24 helpful votes[/h]If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!
You don't know that. What does it take to make you realize you do NOT KNOW if Mary is sleeping or up there in heaven to Her sons, Right hand where the mother of the King would normally sit! YOU CAN CLAIM what you believe, but you do NOT KNOW. Stop pretending as if you do.
GO back and open your Bible, and read the verses that are pertinent here. You'll notice the one you took out of context and dropped on the screen, describes people who "went to hell", who went to the second death, or whatever you want to call it. People who were against Christ and God. DO you suggest mary was one of those people? YOU MUST if you want to claim that verse proves your point. DO you even read things before you post?
I'm not stupid enough to say it couldn't be true. You dont' know if she was or wasn't. If that is what they believe, in good faith YOUR BIBLE TELLS YOU NOT TO HARRASS THEM OVER IT! What do you do? You defecate on the Bible and do it anyway. WHY???? Because you have some perverse thrill out of it, NOT to serve God somehow.
REALLY? Just ignore the point that was made? Are yo ugoing to be that rude? You are very disrespective. The verse shows Jesus gave the MEN THE POWER TO forgive sin. YOU say it can't happen. JESUS HAD THE AUTHORITY TO MAKE THAT GIFT?CALL. YOU SAY HE WAS WRONG AND IT CAN NOT BE. What sort of LORD do you think HE is that you can just pick and choose the decisions HE makes to keep? You are trippin' dude.
There are things you need to read and answer before this conversation goes forward. So far you have just brushed aside and ignored my points. You might as well spit in my face. It's AS respectful.
Your arguments here simply ignore the verse above. If we take these as you present them, you prove Jesus is a contradictory idiot who don't know what he is saying. If we take it my way, they will all fit together. NOW until you go back and reconcile the verse I gave you, instead of evading it, we are not going forward. STOP being rude.
Shwo me a guess. The more scripture I give you, the more you evade it. I've yet to guess in this discussion. That's one more evasion.
So, are you going to make your case for thse, "you are stoned out of your mind" claims? OR are you simply going to make a judgmental statement for EVERY argument I presented that you can't answer?
Melchizedek was before Aaron was a thought in his daddy's eye.
Christ is the head of a specific Church, one that was established BEFORE the laws of Israel, and before Israel AND before the jews which are part of Israel. You present me as ignorant, yet you repeatedly show you don't understand anything you say. IF CHRIST"S PRIESTHOOD is before the jews, how do you apply the jewish laws that came later to it? That's sorta stupid don't you think?f It's like saying the person was wet from the pool, before they jumped into the pool.
THEN why are you more obsessed with what you KNOW than how you live? You are arguing knowledge not faith. You are very duplicitous.
discuss what? the more I show you the more you evade. You don't engage it, you don't answer it. You just repeat your views over and over as if yo uheld some DIVINE RIGHT to over ride the Bible and edit it for God.
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And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?
She tried to keep the laws of the land and not do what she should not do. Saul pushed her on anyway. Her reaction was.....
And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.
She did it at his command, and was angry/shocked/ticked/ whatever, but something from that family.
You are praying to me now. The word means talk. It's not summoning a spirit from beyond as the Witch at Endor did. You are a sick and malicious man. They aren't similar circumstances at all. In essence you are trying to convict them on a lie. HOW is that Godly?
Talking to you is like spraying water in the wind. It just blows back in your faith. I've answered this. YOu avoid the arguments and just repeat the same things over and over. Sticking your head in the sand and screaming the same thing over and over like a kid wanting a cookie with their fingers in their ears, won't progress the conversation.
No, yo ubrought it up. You haven't read the history or the council's words. You have read one person's snippet of information. YOU read it, and learn what was actually said. I've wasted pages of pixels answering things you bring up that you don't even address. I'm not going to now do your research for you too.
I showed how you were. I've shown you to stand against scripture, specifically in more than one place. You don't change, you just rant louder and repeatedly as if that justifies your behavior against Christ's words. You can go back to where I explained how you were Anti christ, and convince me by answering those issues.
If I were of a mind of going back and bringing back up all the things you don't address or handle if you address them, I'd run out of room.
