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I think the church is sick.
The bible says not to put a stumbling block before our brothers.
A lot of christians are trying to abstain from looking at pornography etc and the last thing the struggling christian needs is a naked church.
The bible also says in 1 Timothy 2:9 I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes etc.
The bible says not to put a stumbling block before our brothers.
A lot of christians are trying to abstain from looking at pornography etc and the last thing the struggling christian needs is a naked church.
The bible also says in 1 Timothy 2:9 I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes etc.
lol did you wath the video...no one in that church would be a stumbling block unless you have very very bad taste
You do realise the church is inside a nudist camp? Its not like its a church at end of your road where people get naked after going in side.
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J-Kay
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LOL... I am from West Virginia.... We wear clothes here... and shoes...I'm from Virginia, and that's my local news station that was reporting on that...
We got all the cool things here
I sure hope that church doesn't have a Coffee Greeting Hour...Ouch..
That would hurt if it got spilled .....well..use your imagination.
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richie_2uk
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J-Kay
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Seriously ..... There was a time I heard of a Church that was
so strict about dress code, a girl was not allowed in because she
had shorts on. I understand the thinking of the one who did not
permit her entrance, but on the other hand, thinking that girl may
have gotten saved.
I do think we need to be decent in our dressing for Church. No
low cut dresses, or tops.... Skirts should be decent length, IMO,
above the knee. No tight pants. ( Goes for the guys too, the pants
I mean.)
God needs to be revered and honored. Anything that takes focus
off our Father in Heaven, must not be allowed.
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Nancyer
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Ok. here I have to confess something. Years ago, years before my husband and I had children (our oldest is 18) we went to a Naturist Camp. I had a co worker who owned a space there for his RV. We went with him and his wife several times. It was actually quite nice, had a restaurant and bar with a dance floor, a huge pool, hot tub, picnic areas, beach area, you name it. You could live there year round, seasonally, weekends only or visit as you wanted. We liked it.
I wouldn't go now, this was long before I came to Christ, but we had some lovely weekends. The only thing "weird" about it was the lack of clothing, and you get used to that very quickly. The people were very nice. We met sales people, insurance agents, cops, secretaries, I was a receptionist, teachers, mechanics, etc. I even remember some Christians there talking about the Bible. Wish now I'd listened to what they'd had to say.
As I said I wouldn't go back now but I have nothing but nice memories of the place and the people.
And lets all be a little less judgmental. While it may not be something you would ever consider that doesn't make it weird. That doesn't make the people there weird or evil and God loves them. Let's be grateful that God's Word is being preached, His message is being spread and people are being saved.
I wouldn't go now, this was long before I came to Christ, but we had some lovely weekends. The only thing "weird" about it was the lack of clothing, and you get used to that very quickly. The people were very nice. We met sales people, insurance agents, cops, secretaries, I was a receptionist, teachers, mechanics, etc. I even remember some Christians there talking about the Bible. Wish now I'd listened to what they'd had to say.
As I said I wouldn't go back now but I have nothing but nice memories of the place and the people.
And lets all be a little less judgmental. While it may not be something you would ever consider that doesn't make it weird. That doesn't make the people there weird or evil and God loves them. Let's be grateful that God's Word is being preached, His message is being spread and people are being saved.
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Nancyer
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My church has a very relaxed dress code. Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors. Personally I think people should dress conservatively at church too, but we're mostly just happy they came to church. I dress up for church most Sundays and make my kids do the same, at the very least nice jeans and a nice shirt. But with the younger members, say 15 - 20 yr., if letting them dress the way they want gets them in the door, then Praise God He got them there. (We do draw the line at the pants below the butt, too many older members get very offended and we haven't had a problem so far).
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Missachu
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Call me old school, but I love dressing up for church. I believe that that is the proper way to be serving the Lord. Dressing up with any old thing on shows lack of commitment and just, disrespectful. My fiance gets pissy with me when we go to church, I make him go to church with no holes, cigarette burns/smells, matching, FITTING clothes,clean shoes, hair done, shaven and smelling nice. Normally he's none of those. I can understand if you have nothing else to put on and you have casual clothes, but the "No Dress code-code" of these modern days, I find unacceptable.
We are Christians, not Hippies.
No wonder why non-believers don't take us seriously.
We are Christians, not Hippies.
No wonder why non-believers don't take us seriously.
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Dave
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Honestly, I don't see the problem with this. I can concur that if nakedness were shameful, God would have clothed Adam and Eve, but just because God clothed Adam and Eve doesn't necessarily mean that nakedness is shameful. For one thing, Adam and Eve WANTED to hide themselves from God, and for another, the environment outside of Eden was more hostile than that of The Garden of Eden. If the devil abhorred Adam and Eve's nakedness to the point he wanted to trick them into feeling shame and wearing clothes, why would the devil be okay with a church full of naked, worshipping people? Therefore, how can naked worship be sin? Regarding the verses in Ezekiel about a priest having to wear linen breeches extending to his thighs, I have researched this. Much of the original meaning of nakedness has been lost in translation of the Bible from Hebrew to English. The word meant to describe the nakedness of the breeches verse and that of the altar verse was "ervah" a word modern translators believe, by context, means sexual, lustful, or indecent nakedness. This is just one of the many different Hebrew words for nakedness in the un-translated Bible. These nudists are not lusting after each other. They are worshipping, and I believed that, by removing their clothing, they are removing the wall that separates them from God, and they are better able to talk to God face-to-face when naked. In The Gospel of Thomas 37, you will find a very insightful quote by Jesus himself.[TABLE="width: 760"]
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[TD="width: 194, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]"When will you be shown forth to us and when shall we behold you?" Jesus said, "When you strip naked without being ashamed, and take your garments and put them under your feet like little children and tread upon them, then [you] will see the child of the living. And you will not be afraid."
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To all you people who are calling this nudist church evil and wrong, just look at these worshippers. They have good fruits of the Holy Spirit in them, whether you realize it or not. They are at peace, and, as they say in the video, are a caring group. Peace and love are two of the fruits of the Holy Spirit. I don't know these people, but a strongly speculate that if I got to know them, I would find most, if not all, of the rest of the holy fruits in them as well. These nudists are not doing or thinking anything different from folks who attend a regular church service. They are simply free of clothing, nothing more.Who are all of you to spew hatred and prejudice at these worshippers and call them evil? Why do you treat them as heretics destined for hell when you don't even know them? I strongly speculate that if God is repulsed at anything to do with these church services, it's your failure to understand these nudists' motives, the way in which God speaks to them, and your attacks against them just for being who they are.
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Honestly, I don't see the problem with this. I can concur that if nakedness were shameful, God would have clothed Adam and Eve, but just because God clothed Adam and Eve doesn't necessarily mean that nakedness is shameful. For one thing, Adam and Eve WANTED to hide themselves from God, and for another, the environment outside of Eden was more hostile than that of The Garden of Eden. If the devil abhorred Adam and Eve's nakedness to the point he wanted to trick them into feeling shame and wearing clothes, why would the devil be okay with a church full of naked, worshipping people? Therefore, how can naked worship be sin? Regarding the verses in Ezekiel about a priest having to wear linen breeches extending to his thighs, I have researched this. Much of the original meaning of nakedness has been lost in translation of the Bible from Hebrew to English. The word meant to describe the nakedness of the breeches verse and that of the altar verse was "ervah" a word modern translators believe, by context, means sexual, lustful, or indecent nakedness. This is just one of the many different Hebrew words for nakedness in the un-translated Bible. These nudists are not lusting after each other. They are worshipping, and I believed that, by removing their clothing, they are removing the wall that separates them from God, and they are better able to talk to God face-to-face when naked. In The Gospel of Thomas 37, you will find a very insightful quote by Jesus himself.[TABLE="width: 760"]
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[TD="width: 194, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]"When will you be shown forth to us and when shall we behold you?" Jesus said, "When you strip naked without being ashamed, and take your garments and put them under your feet like little children and tread upon them, then [you] will see the child of the living. And you will not be afraid."
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To all you people who are calling this nudist church evil and wrong, just look at these worshippers. They have good fruits of the Holy Spirit in them, whether you realize it or not. They are at peace, and, as they say in the video, are a caring group. Peace and love are two of the fruits of the Holy Spirit. I don't know these people, but a strongly speculate that if I got to know them, I would find most, if not all, of the rest of the holy fruits in them as well. These nudists are not doing or thinking anything different from folks who attend a regular church service. They are simply free of clothing, nothing more.Who are all of you to spew hatred and prejudice at these worshippers and call them evil? Why do you treat them as heretics destined for hell when you don't even know them? I strongly speculate that if God is repulsed at anything to do with these church services, it's your failure to understand these nudists' motives, the way in which God speaks to them, and your attacks against them just for being who they are.
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Ugly
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Totally have to disagree. God is more concerned with our hearts than our outward appearance. Does God really feel slighted if you don't spend extra money buying nicer clothes to wear once a week? Or do you really believe He looks more favorably on those who dress up? I go to church to fellowship and grow. I don't need fancy clothes to do that. To me this is just a show to put on to other people to make you look more impressive and spiritual, but lacks any real substance.
And how does the clothes a person wears to church have anything to do with their commitment to God? That sounds more works based than having any real depth.
You really think the reasons non-believers don't take Christians seriously has anything to do with the way they dress at church? Or could it be something deeper than that? I'm going with something deeper. I've yet to talk to a single non-believer who has ever thought less of Christians that didn't dress up for church.
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danschance
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Is this american? - (ouch that's so judgemental, ha ha)
Yes, it is American. It is OK if you want to be judgmental of Americans. We know we beat the Brits in the Revolutionary war and the war of 1812, which is why most Americans simply feel sorry for the Brits.
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Relena7
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O_O
>_O
I can't believe this is real. But at the same time, I'm kind of not surprised. It makes more sense once you realize it's within a nudist community.
I was under the impression that we Americans are more prudish than Europeans, lol.
You guys can get away with a little more on your TV and media than we can.
>_O
I can't believe this is real. But at the same time, I'm kind of not surprised. It makes more sense once you realize it's within a nudist community.
Is this american? - (ouch that's so judgemental, ha ha
I was under the impression that we Americans are more prudish than Europeans, lol.
You guys can get away with a little more on your TV and media than we can.
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ServantStrike
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I can never get past the idea of being a Christian nudist, let alone worship services.
I mean yeah, for some of these people, I guess there is little risk they will cause any one to fall into lust, but then again there is always the possiblity that someone out there likes 40 year old fat bald men, and then they caused someone to fall into lust.
And do they allow teenagers there? Because if they do, then teenagers have so much going on hormonally that some of them probably would fall into lust.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the eye bleach.
I mean yeah, for some of these people, I guess there is little risk they will cause any one to fall into lust, but then again there is always the possiblity that someone out there likes 40 year old fat bald men, and then they caused someone to fall into lust.
And do they allow teenagers there? Because if they do, then teenagers have so much going on hormonally that some of them probably would fall into lust.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go find the eye bleach.
What we live by as christians is based upon scripture and biblical principle/example.
No example of nude worship in the bible.
My church has one rule about clothes...they are not optional and I agree.
I do have one question about this church....
How big is their single's group?
No example of nude worship in the bible.
My church has one rule about clothes...they are not optional and I agree.
I do have one question about this church....
How big is their single's group?
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AmberGardner
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Not very considerate of the tons of people on earth who have been molested, raped, and tortured, is it?
We're supposed to sell everything we have, not horde up fancy clothes. He's more impressed if we give our nice clothes to the poor and wear rags ourselves.
We're supposed to sell everything we have, not horde up fancy clothes. He's more impressed if we give our nice clothes to the poor and wear rags ourselves.