Does a christian need to go to church every sunday
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No. because bible doesn't teach us that we have to go to an "institutionalized church".
Paul or any other apostles did not command us to go to a BUILDING church where they dance and sing.
Jesus has told us in what manner to pray to God
Mt 6:5 . And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mt 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
i do not believe in tithing, because i believe that we are not under the law anymore
Ga 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
and so many other teachings of the church.....we do have a group of like minded people who gather together in some brother's or sister's house for prayer and bible study. that is what the apostles used to do too.
Phm 1:2 And to [our] beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:
Col 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.
1C 16:19 . The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
Ro 16:5 Likewise [greet] the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
Discussing the bible, learning the truths, praying for each other, clearing the doubts, understanding and helping the brothers/sisters who are in trouble....we have a great time with God and his word on every sundays
. Sunday because that is when all are free.
God be with u
Paul or any other apostles did not command us to go to a BUILDING church where they dance and sing.
Jesus has told us in what manner to pray to God
Mt 6:5 . And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mt 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
i do not believe in tithing, because i believe that we are not under the law anymore
Ga 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
and so many other teachings of the church.....we do have a group of like minded people who gather together in some brother's or sister's house for prayer and bible study. that is what the apostles used to do too.
Phm 1:2 And to [our] beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:
Col 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.
1C 16:19 . The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
Ro 16:5 Likewise [greet] the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
Discussing the bible, learning the truths, praying for each other, clearing the doubts, understanding and helping the brothers/sisters who are in trouble....we have a great time with God and his word on every sundays
. Sunday because that is when all are free.God be with u
if you believe, you are the church, a part of it, and your body is the temple. there is no "place" you need to go (1 Corinth. 6:19).
why do the believers meet together, then? because where two or three gather in His name, there He is in there midst (Matt. 18:20). because as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another (Prov. 27:17). because the LORD delights in the praise of His people (Psalm 149:4). because we ought to study to show ourselves approved (2 Tim. 2:15).
why do the believers meet together, then? because where two or three gather in His name, there He is in there midst (Matt. 18:20). because as iron sharpens iron, one man sharpens another (Prov. 27:17). because the LORD delights in the praise of His people (Psalm 149:4). because we ought to study to show ourselves approved (2 Tim. 2:15).
No. because bible doesn't teach us that we have to go to an "institutionalized church".
Paul or any other apostles did not command us to go to a BUILDING church where they dance and sing.
Jesus has told us in what manner to pray to God
Mt 6:5 . And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mt 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
i do not believe in tithing, because i believe that we are not under the law anymore
Ga 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
and so many other teachings of the church.....we do have a group of like minded people who gather together in some brother's or sister's house for prayer and bible study. that is what the apostles used to do too.
Phm 1:2 And to [our] beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:
Col 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.
1C 16:19 . The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
Ro 16:5 Likewise [greet] the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
Discussing the bible, learning the truths, praying for each other, clearing the doubts, understanding and helping the brothers/sisters who are in trouble....we have a great time with God and his word on every sundays. Sunday because that is when all are free.
God be with u
Paul or any other apostles did not command us to go to a BUILDING church where they dance and sing.
Jesus has told us in what manner to pray to God
Mt 6:5 . And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mt 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
i do not believe in tithing, because i believe that we are not under the law anymore
Ga 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
and so many other teachings of the church.....we do have a group of like minded people who gather together in some brother's or sister's house for prayer and bible study. that is what the apostles used to do too.
Phm 1:2 And to [our] beloved Apphia, and Archippus our fellowsoldier, and to the church in thy house:
Col 4:15 Salute the brethren which are in Laodicea, and Nymphas, and the church which is in his house.
1C 16:19 . The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house.
Ro 16:5 Likewise [greet] the church that is in their house. Salute my wellbeloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia unto Christ.
Discussing the bible, learning the truths, praying for each other, clearing the doubts, understanding and helping the brothers/sisters who are in trouble....we have a great time with God and his word on every sundays
. Sunday because that is when all are free.God be with u
Heb 10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised) 24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
The real question is: why wouldn't a person go to church regularly if he/she is a Christian?
What is the purpose of Church?
The real question is: why wouldn't a person go to church regularly if he/she is a Christian?
What is the purpose of Church?
because:
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Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
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(Ephesians 2:19-22)
and if we are being 'built together' it is efficient that the parts which will fit together be brought near each other =]
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Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.
"
(Ephesians 2:19-22)
and if we are being 'built together' it is efficient that the parts which will fit together be brought near each other =]
Thanks a bunch of roses dear lovely posthuman. I'm not sure why I feel so guilty only going to church every 2 weeks or so and it makes me sometimes feel sad, because I feel as though I should be going to church every week, but because of my illness, it is too hard to go weekly for me. With having had a word of knowledge from Beloved Jesus given to church elder to tell me a few times, I feel like I may be disappointing Jesus. But I pray everyday at home and read my bible and tell beloved Lord Jesus I love Him everyday. I hope that is good enough. But I see some of the church elders attending church every week, and I get sad sometimes thinking I'm not doing enough, but I do have a serious illness too and some people like me that are sick worship at home and cannot always attend church. The priest even does home visits for the sick and gives them Holy Communion in their home.
Because that part of The Plan is finished, though there is nothing wrong with it, if one is there with a sincere heart/mind.
This was the work and faith of the Faithkeeper's, those born before 1948. Cheer's to them all for their work in bringing forth The Word to ALL Nations and establishing church buildings on every city, town and village from Jerusalem to Russia and everywhere in between.
Sooner or later though, one does have to walk away from it, for it has become polluted, just like everything else down here at this time.
Though they provided for thousands of years, sometimes correctly, and sometimes not, the things required to further Our Father's purpose, it is almost time to separate the wheat from the tares, and the final purpose for these structures, is to provide a place, in reality, where untold billions are going to participate in the great Apostacy or also could be called, The Devil's Party.
How and Why? to see if one listened to the spoken, written and Living Word, or some person's interpretation of it.
It is as simple as 666 and 777 in chronological order.
It is as simple as obeying the 2 last chosen vessels of Our Father.
It is as simple as, 1,2,3 = you, me and everybody.
It is as simple as left and right, or door 1 or 2, because there is no door 3, GOD ALMIGHTY does not compromise or complicate what HE says.
Christ's #1 warning after rising in his spiritual body: Do NOT be deceived, as the first one to return in one of these body's, is a wolf in sheep's clothing, he will look like the Lamb of God, but he will have the voice of the dragon (a lier).
Our Father IS going to take the biggest negative that there IS, Satan/Death himself, and turn it into a positive, and through Michel the Arc Angel, cast him to the earth, to test and see, who will trust in His spoken, written and Living Word, or in The False Prophet Himself, Appolyon. (to be destroyed by ashes from within)
The other purposes of course being, to stop WW3 in in its tracks, and to finally have, after about 7000 years in executing, HIS FIRST WILL accomplished; Noboby, hurting Anybody, ANYMORE! Well; physically anyways Christ will take care of the Spiritual part when he gets here, at 777.
" You cannot serve both GOD and Mammon/Wealth" Church organization's have changed these places, Houses of Prayer, into big business, that take more than they give; Unrighteousness.
The other side, Governments, have taken ALL the social programs that were established by the Faithkeepers and turned them into big business as well. Selling donated items for profit, instead of distributing them fairly with a pure heart towards God, healthcare, water, etc.... no end to the __________ oops I can't talk like that
This was the work and faith of the Faithkeeper's, those born before 1948. Cheer's to them all for their work in bringing forth The Word to ALL Nations and establishing church buildings on every city, town and village from Jerusalem to Russia and everywhere in between.
Sooner or later though, one does have to walk away from it, for it has become polluted, just like everything else down here at this time.
Though they provided for thousands of years, sometimes correctly, and sometimes not, the things required to further Our Father's purpose, it is almost time to separate the wheat from the tares, and the final purpose for these structures, is to provide a place, in reality, where untold billions are going to participate in the great Apostacy or also could be called, The Devil's Party.
How and Why? to see if one listened to the spoken, written and Living Word, or some person's interpretation of it.
It is as simple as 666 and 777 in chronological order.
It is as simple as obeying the 2 last chosen vessels of Our Father.
It is as simple as, 1,2,3 = you, me and everybody.
It is as simple as left and right, or door 1 or 2, because there is no door 3, GOD ALMIGHTY does not compromise or complicate what HE says.
Christ's #1 warning after rising in his spiritual body: Do NOT be deceived, as the first one to return in one of these body's, is a wolf in sheep's clothing, he will look like the Lamb of God, but he will have the voice of the dragon (a lier).
Our Father IS going to take the biggest negative that there IS, Satan/Death himself, and turn it into a positive, and through Michel the Arc Angel, cast him to the earth, to test and see, who will trust in His spoken, written and Living Word, or in The False Prophet Himself, Appolyon. (to be destroyed by ashes from within)
The other purposes of course being, to stop WW3 in in its tracks, and to finally have, after about 7000 years in executing, HIS FIRST WILL accomplished; Noboby, hurting Anybody, ANYMORE! Well; physically anyways
Christ will take care of the Spiritual part when he gets here, at 777." You cannot serve both GOD and Mammon/Wealth" Church organization's have changed these places, Houses of Prayer, into big business, that take more than they give; Unrighteousness.
The other side, Governments, have taken ALL the social programs that were established by the Faithkeepers and turned them into big business as well. Selling donated items for profit, instead of distributing them fairly with a pure heart towards God, healthcare, water, etc.... no end to the __________ oops I can't talk like that
The answer is yes. It is a very big part of the NT that the disciples met together, especially for the eucharist and the bread on Sundays to remember the Lord's death. It is the right practice and important to do.
Now, that being said, I can't really say I am any good at following this teaching, because I can't seem to find an assembly that doesn't annoy me right out of the doors in about 15 minutes. My problem is that I really do know too much. I know just how wrong the teacher/preacher is. I know what he should be teaching. It is both my blessing and my bane. I know how institutionalized it all has become and I know how it should be. So I simply never get past from 15 to 30 minute mark, and I'm gone.
I wish it wasn't like this, but I simply cannot tolerate the abject ignorance and shallow level that I see in 99% of churches I visit. I wish I could, because it is a very lonely existence and it does nothing but weaken me, because I needed people who could spiritually edify me, and I just don't find them. They are all just too ignorant.
Now, that being said, I can't really say I am any good at following this teaching, because I can't seem to find an assembly that doesn't annoy me right out of the doors in about 15 minutes. My problem is that I really do know too much. I know just how wrong the teacher/preacher is. I know what he should be teaching. It is both my blessing and my bane. I know how institutionalized it all has become and I know how it should be. So I simply never get past from 15 to 30 minute mark, and I'm gone.
I wish it wasn't like this, but I simply cannot tolerate the abject ignorance and shallow level that I see in 99% of churches I visit. I wish I could, because it is a very lonely existence and it does nothing but weaken me, because I needed people who could spiritually edify me, and I just don't find them. They are all just too ignorant.
I know how arrogant this could sound, but it isn't. I really do know too much to ever get much out of any church sermon again. I know that minister's design their homily's and sermons in order to reach the broadest spectrum of listener they can, as long as that listener is at the lowest common denominator of Biblical/spiritual understanding. They give talks that are often times more akin to positive thinking seminars instead of the Good Current of Christ. And it annoys to no small degree.
I just want them all to shut up. Rick Warrens makes me puke. Max Lucados give me hives. And Joel Osteens give me nerve disorders. I can't stand this fickle age of churchianity. I can hardly even drag myself to go with a large group of people that I know it annoys me so much. The doctrine is wrong and the institutionalization is intolerable. And they are all the same. I've had people come up and tell me, Yeah, but our church isn't like that. Oh yes it is. I can guarentee you it's like that. There may be some variations on a theme, but at the end of the day, the common denominator in them all is going to be a blend of ignorance and false doctrine. Having to endure that is enough, but having to sit there and endure their vainglorious, campy praiseteam just pushes me over the edge. And then when they have children's church, I start quickly getting more sick until it results in the preacher telling a joke, whereupon the audience actually laughs. And I can tell you that it wasn't funny.
I can't stand their churches, and I went to ministry school.
I just want them all to shut up. Rick Warrens makes me puke. Max Lucados give me hives. And Joel Osteens give me nerve disorders. I can't stand this fickle age of churchianity. I can hardly even drag myself to go with a large group of people that I know it annoys me so much. The doctrine is wrong and the institutionalization is intolerable. And they are all the same. I've had people come up and tell me, Yeah, but our church isn't like that. Oh yes it is. I can guarentee you it's like that. There may be some variations on a theme, but at the end of the day, the common denominator in them all is going to be a blend of ignorance and false doctrine. Having to endure that is enough, but having to sit there and endure their vainglorious, campy praiseteam just pushes me over the edge. And then when they have children's church, I start quickly getting more sick until it results in the preacher telling a joke, whereupon the audience actually laughs. And I can tell you that it wasn't funny.
I can't stand their churches, and I went to ministry school.
If that was directed at me, which I assume it was, that is a riddiculas statement, as I have my ties with Christ, I fret and worry for nothing.
Its a short lived persecution anyways, as Our Father promised no more than 10 days of persecution at a time, without a breather.
Persecution LOL, with pleasure, nothing that i'm not already well aquainted with, lol
Its a short lived persecution anyways, as Our Father promised no more than 10 days of persecution at a time, without a breather.
Persecution LOL, with pleasure, nothing that i'm not already well aquainted with, lol
Blessings dear lovely BeanieD, I can empaphise with you that it is more difficult for the sick to attend church every Sunday. And I know it is the prompting and lead of the Holy Spirit for me to try to attend church as regularly as I can. But with a serious illness/ sickness I go sometimes once a week to pray with church elders at healing rooms where we received the blessed word of knowledge from beloved Jesus and then every 2 weeks or so I attend church for Eucharist......I just see the Holy Spirit encouraging me more and more to attend church and it is prompting me and leading me to it more and more. Blessings as always my cherished friend BeanieD. But remember if u are sick u cannot always go to church but can always worship at home.
J
I see the great need for fellowship more and more as time goes on. To worship the LORD with others, to help others, to learn, to have more opportunities for bearing fruit, and more.
I would love to find a nice church somehow.
HOWEVER, looking at the disagreement on literally every topic on this website and people covertly(and not so covertly) accusing others of not being saved...just wow...
Is there even a real church anymore? Sure I could go to this church or that and drink the cool-aid of doctrine they all ascribe to(not saying there isnt a church that is mostly right out there). How do I know what they teach is true? Believe me though, sometimes just settling for this or that packaged set of beliefs is very appealing, but I want truth.
I would love to find a nice church somehow.
HOWEVER, looking at the disagreement on literally every topic on this website and people covertly(and not so covertly) accusing others of not being saved...just wow...
Is there even a real church anymore? Sure I could go to this church or that and drink the cool-aid of doctrine they all ascribe to(not saying there isnt a church that is mostly right out there). How do I know what they teach is true? Believe me though, sometimes just settling for this or that packaged set of beliefs is very appealing, but I want truth.
J
For honesty sake, I should add that the MAIN reason I dont just settle into some 'almost correct' church somewhere is I just find the environment to be very uncomfortable. I am a shy person to begin with and find it hard to get out of my comfort zone.
God willing, the LORD will work on both problems in me some day.
God willing, the LORD will work on both problems in me some day.
I don't know the answer to this. After spending 8 (literal) years in the ivory towers of what is falsely called 'higher Theological education', I came to the point that the whole thing was a racket from top to bottom. The Good Current of Xristos isn't a racket, but the outer superstructure of how people 'do church' is.
It seems to be specifically designed to get rid of that sort of rare bird who will do his/her thinking. These churches live and move in 'herds' of sheep. Sheep are fine and herds are fine, but sometimes a ram needs to be a ram and go out on his own to learn his terrain. Everything seems to have a 'cheerleader' aspect to it. I always feel like a metrosexual wherever I go, and when I make a move to not act like a metrosexual, I am denied. I quickly learned that my job was to move with the herd. The herd does this, I do this. The herd doesn't do this, I don't do this. There's no real learning going on here, there is a bunch of outer stimuli designed to tug on the heart strings of foolish, ignorant women and henpecked men. It makes me sick. The instutionalal aspect of it. The sopping, whiny-woo cry me a river 'reflections', the metrosexual 'multi-media' aspect, the hipster coffee shop rock star youth minister archetype....all of it. It just makes me want to run and have nothing to do with these fops.
And if you go to the 'conservatives', as they call themselves, you see the same kind of flake. This is all to maintain status quo. It's stagnant, flaky and useless. I don't even know if the people who go ever knew the why and wherefore of why they are going. It's conventional for conventional people. Oh, how I wish I could be one of these conventional people. They always know how to get by in the system and they usually end up with the conventionalist 'head cheerleader' in the church, with some useless, cushy job and serving coffee on Sunday's to the 'visitors' like me. And I, who gave my blood, sweat and tears for 8 long years on the Cross of a dialectical battle called 'higher criticism' and shuffled off to the 'singles' group and told I need to trust in 'Grace', by a bunch of ignoranti who probably couldn't even find Grace in a Bible without help. It's not just annoyance with me. I feel like I've been betrayed by the whole collective lot. And that's a much different state of being than simply being your typical, average sinner off the street. If I were a typical, average sinner off the street, I have no doubt of I would be welcomed with open arms and asked to be the youth minister, as long as I didn't get too deep and maintained the metrosexual evangelical worldview.
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