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Elin

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Elin said:
BradC said:
JaumeJ said:
People are not afraid of anything, however most who believe refrain from practices and dogmas not in the Word, or at least not perceived by them as taught in the Word.

Think about this: Confrontation! or Winning converts by our love for each other and for others. Which is from Yeshua, Jesus? Hint, it is taught in the Book, John.
Preaching is how the gospel is communicated. It was through preaching that 3,000 souls were saved at Pentecost.
Many words to the crowd, yes, but not in someone's living room.

Put JaumeJ in a pulpit, and I suspect you wouldn't be able to see much difference between Peter's preaching and his.

Do you ever stop blaming?
Does that really work for you?

Not everyone is given to be an evangelist (Eph 4:11).
You bewilder me with some of your comments that do not make sense such as the above.
I'm not surprised that you are bewildered, because it is what you do naturally, from your culture
I suppose.

Jews don't believe because those who preach to them have prejudiced hearts. . .

Believers don't love the Jews enough to die for them. . .

JaumeJ does not witness adequately because he is not bold enough to preach. . .

The continual slow drip, drip of blame. . .does guilting work for you in getting people to do what
you want them to do?

I know you don't even see that you are doing it.
 
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I'm not surprised that you are bewildered, because it is what you do naturally, from your culture
I suppose.

Jews don't believe because those who preach to them have prejudiced hearts. . .

Believers don't love the Jews enough to die for them. . .

JaumeJ does not witness adequately because he is not bold enough to preach. . .

The continual slow drip, drip of blame. . .does guilting work for you in getting people to do what
you want them to do?

I know you don't even see that you are doing it.
The greatest example I can think of that illustrates confrontational evangelism is when the Lord confronted Saul on the road to Damascus and suddenly shone a light from heaven round about him that he fell to the earth and heard the voice of the Lord. Direct confrontation right from heaven and you can't get anymore confrontational then that, do you think? Saul had heard the message and knew the people he was persecuting and now he needed to hear from the Lord personally through a divine confrontation and to think that we have this same commission to confront sinners with the gospel. The Gentiles need to hear it, the Jews need to hear it, the barbarians need to hear it, the Greeks need to hear it and all the tribes of the earth need to hear it because there in no other name under heaven among men whereby they can be saved except through the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Start laying your life down and go preach the gospel to every creature and confess Christ before men so that Christ can confess your name before the Father in heaven and he has promised to go with us unto the ends of the world.
 

Elin

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The greatest example I can think of that illustrates confrontational evangelism is when the Lord confronted Saul on the road to Damascus and suddenly shone a light from heaven round about him that he fell to the earth and heard the voice of the Lord. Direct confrontation right from heaven and you can't get anymore confrontational then that, do you think? Saul had heard the message and knew the people he was persecuting and now he needed to hear from the Lord personally through a divine confrontation and to think that we have this same commission to confront sinners with the gospel. The Gentiles need to hear it, the Jews need to hear it, the barbarians need to hear it, the Greeks need to hear it and all the tribes of the earth need to hear it because there in no other name under heaven among men whereby they can be saved except through the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Start laying your life down and go preach the gospel to every creature and confess Christ before men so that Christ can confess your name before the Father in heaven and he has promised to go with us unto the ends of the world.
Amen!

Preach it, brother!
 

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zone

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Praus...seems like The Lord had mercy on you and me...in our filth....iniquity and sin...He reached down anyway.

He looks for lowest first - crying out...and rescues them.

TO THE PRAISE OF HIS GLORY.

This is MY GOD.

Amen
amen.
 
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Pharisees kissing :eek:

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Praus...seems like The Lord had mercy on you and me...in our filth....iniquity and sin...He reached down anyway.

He looks for lowest first - crying out...and rescues them.

TO THE PRAISE OF HIS GLORY.

This is MY GOD.

Amen
amen.
Zone, you made me cry. He is so merciful. Amen.
 

tribesman

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If you choose not to support Judaism that is your prerogative as a Christian, but what do you believe to be the blindness in part that has happened to Israel in Rom 11:25?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Israel in this verse cannot be the church so it has to be speaking of Israel as a people and nation as opposed to the Gentiles and the nations thereof. What would be the characteristics of that blindness? Would it have anything to do with the state of Judaism? I encourage those that liked your post to answer or express their thoughts on this if they would like.
My take on it is that it does not fall out of context with Romans 9, that is it is either the Elect as a whole or it is the Elect of Israel, or perhaps more precisely the tribe of Judah. What it does not mean is that every follower of judaism that ever lived and ever will live will be saved. Neither in that generation nor any coming generation. As with gentiles jews must also accept and believe the gospel. There is no other way or "dispensation" for them to enter in. Jews who die in unbelief of the Savior are lost.
 
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iamsoandso

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I'm not surprised that you are bewildered, because it is what you do naturally, from your culture
I suppose.

Jews don't believe because those who preach to them have prejudiced hearts. . .

Believers don't love the Jews enough to die for them. . .

JaumeJ does not witness adequately because he is not bold enough to preach. . .

The continual slow drip, drip of blame. . .does guilting work for you in getting people to do what
you want them to do?

I know you don't even see that you are doing it.
lol,,,late 80's when the internet/www,,,first took off it was an explosion of in depth discussions,,,after a while we understood who to talk to and what to discuss. that is in the beginning we left our desk tops open so we could just UN plug and plug another hard drive in and get back online. that meant constantly reformatting systems on a stack of h.d's,,,but it worked.

finally we saw there was "this list we could mention,and this we could not,here in google land",,,,i suppose the just of it is we all think we are revealing "an hidden truth",,,where in all actually they(the booger man) had us all buy computers and discuss these issues online so they could narrow down the hand full who actually knew it.

so at times,,,,one might ask or say certain things,and expect one to answer in great depth ,and though they might know the answer,they might feel it not good to send those asking to the nearest computer tech to have their system repaired. p.m. is the next instinct,but take my word for it "nothing's secure",,,i have never discussed in-depth matters other than face to face.,,,,

in the beginning aol christian chat was the big thing,,but at times it was completely off line for hours at a time.,,,i the first few pages of this thread it was mentioned by some "that they were afraid they were being watched",,,well,,,,"all's well",,,,so we no of a fact that from the op till now nothing was said that was,,"the big secret",,,lol,,,

so that said,there is no necessity for us to make demands toward one another as if one understands or does not,seeing at least in mine own opinion,,,some of these do know,but are prudent and well mannered. that is ask yourselves a question,,,"shall we narrow it down,from the whole,,,then from the 12 tribes to the 1 tribe,,,then to the very man and then his name,,,and vocalize the name in an chat forum?",,,,,do we not understand if we so do,even the t.v.'s will be offline "searching for signal tomorrow"???,,,,

"shall you not eat of every fruit?",,,,"if ye be whom ye say set yourself down from this mountain",,,=the devil did not know the answer to either of these questions,he did not know,so he ask and when the answer was given he responded. that is until the righteous provides the answer,the unrighteous does not know his own sentence,Daniel,12;10 "the wicked shall not understand",,,so he watches for you to say it,,,,,,,

there is a man,,,and he will bow down and worship the devil. and the breath of life he is breathing in and exhaling his last few breaths. ,,,,here is a mountain made exceeding low,look upon the kingdoms and their glory that is brought to nothing,this is the meat. this is the promise made to only two from the beginning till the end,the first rebuked it,but to the next he will receive it.,,,,matt.4;8-9,,,,,,,,
 

JaumeJ

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One is never expected to or required to support anything that opposes Yahweh; this includes His Holy Spirit and His Only Begotten Son, Yeshua, because they are One Elohim (God.)

Do not allow this truth to counter what we have learned from our Savior, and the teaching He gave us at the cost of His own suffering and death on a tree.

If we find something lost of our enemy, we are to return it immediately, in other words, we are to LOVE our enemy. Do not post anything contrary to this teaching. It is counter to the Word of Yahweh.


Why would i support anyone who hates Jesus Christ ? Just because of their skin ? Please !
 

JaumeJ

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All who have received Yeshua know the reply to the opening question here. He did this out of His perfect love for all, hands down, no questions asked.

For God so loved the world, He gave His only Son.............


Why did the Father send his Son knowing that he would be despised and rejected of men? There must have something about God loving the world so much that he would send his Son to be judged for all their sins through death. The Father was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself by not imputing their trespasses unto them. Christ did more than support you when you were his enemy (Rom 5:10) he took your sin without your permission and nailed it to a tree upon his own body. He did that when you were his enemy alienated from him by your wicked works and you have a problem with the Jews hating Jesus Christ? I guess you don't know just how desperately wicked your heart really is.
 

JaumeJ

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JaumeJ is not bold enough to preach, although he was given to travel about the Midwest and some 20 countries on his own dime, depending only on Yahweh, sharing the word on highways, in forests, at universities, with Belgians, French, Cypriots, Israelis and more for four years.

Believers would pray out loud in his presence asking God to give him a job, yet they could not see he was eating well while not depending on anyone but Yahweh, and I was feeding others, the Bread from heaven. This was not my doing. It was Yahweh's doing.

There were healings, the gift of knowledge, and much more, all the work of the Lord, never did I actually do anything except avail my presence and be willing.

I know my path because it was given me. As for preaching. Here in this forum, I manage to share what I have been given, but I am not bold, nor will I ever be, but I will share what I believe is from the Word, and that only.

Yahweh did not take back any gifts, however He showed me to keep them in abeyance until His time. Since that time He has always been present to rescue me from many perils. Frankly, I know He rescued me from many perils long before I was convinced by His Holy Spirit. I pray I am never bold, but in His will I pray to always be.

Yahweh bless all who are in Yeshua, amen


I'm not surprised that you are bewildered, because it is what you do naturally, from your culture
I suppose.

Jews don't believe because those who preach to them have prejudiced hearts. . .

Believers don't love the Jews enough to die for them. . .

JaumeJ does not witness adequately because he is not bold enough to preach. . .

The continual slow drip, drip of blame. . .does guilting work for you in getting people to do what
you want them to do?

I know you don't even see that you are doing it.
 

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Why don't you guys stop arguing and just give me my money. :cool:
 
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"Also I will restore the captivity of My people Israel, And they will rebuild the ruined cities and live in them; They will also plant vineyards and drink their wine, And make gardens and eat their fruit. I will also plant them on their land, And they will not again be rooted out from their land Which I have given them" Says the Lord your God. Amos 9:14-15