Was Jesus resurrected on a Sunday ?

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[video=youtube;zpHkE7RaO20]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=zpHkE7RaO20[/video]
 

T_Laurich

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But who cares; again Romans 14, if people wish to celebrate it on a Sunday, rejoice that they celebrate Christ... We don't worship the day, but the miracle and the meaning behind it...
 
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He was ressurected on the third day, nit 3 days later so if ge died on friday then yes
 

TheAristocat

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Can't watch the video, but I was shown how a Saturday night resurrection works out to exactly three whole days and three whole nights and still ends up being the first day of the Jewish week according to their time reckoning.
 
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Laodicea

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We cannot take just one text for a whole doctrine but must use all texts involved.

Matthew 16:21 KJV
(21) From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

According to this the 3 days begin from the time He is taken. so then we have.
Thursday night
Friday night
Saturday night

Friday
Saturday
Sunday

Also notice that these texts have 3 days , preparation, Sabbath and the first day.
Luke 23:54-56
(54) and
that day was the preparation, and the Sabbath drew on.
(55) And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
(56) and they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and
rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment.
Luke 24:1
(1) now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.
 

john832

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But who cares; again Romans 14, if people wish to celebrate it on a Sunday, rejoice that they celebrate Christ... We don't worship the day, but the miracle and the meaning behind it...
Hmmm, Christ seemed to think it important...

Mat 12:39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
Mat 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Only sign He gave He was the Messiah.
 

john832

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He was ressurected on the third day, nit 3 days later so if ge died on friday then yes
Hmmm, from Friday sunset to Sunday prior to sunrise is three days and three nights? You don't work in a job where you're required to make change do you?
 

john832

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Jesus Christ is the one who created the unified theory. He reconciled quantum mechanics with gravity and knows how it works. This is math beyond Albert Einstein's comprehension.

Do you suppose He can accurately count to three?
 
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reject-tech

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We can only get "3 days and 3 nights" counting like old timey hebrews, and only if Jesus ate the meal with His disciples a day early. (because He understood the sabbaths mean something other than keeping literal days and didn't care about doing it on a certain day)

Thursday night, Friday morning
Friday night, Saturday morning
Saturday night, Sunday morning

The day part of Sunday was counted in full the moment the light of the sun was barely noticable in the sky, even though He was resurrected in that instant.

They counted in advance instead of hindsight
Because when you say "three", you have counted it in full before the entire word leaves your mouth.
And because you have faith at the moment of counting, that the day will fully complete itself.

When you say "thank you for this food", you have faith that you will be able to then proceed to eat it.

And the whole issue is a distraction from brotherly love, because I can't start to tell you how much time I've wasted visiting this issue instead of sick people.

The argument serves no purpose unless we are trying to fault man, or God, or prove Him real, or prove Him fake.
Based on numbers even.
 
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Hizikyah

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I thikn it is a big deal personally, because of the Sunday lie, people believe the Sabbath was changed to Sunday, another lie and demoic mirroring practices have cret in nearly evey christian home... Ishtar Sunday.

Mattithyah 12:40, "For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
 
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I thikn it is a big deal personally, because of the Sunday lie, people believe the Sabbath was changed to Sunday, another lie and demoic mirroring practices have cret in nearly evey christian home... Ishtar Sunday.

Mattithyah 12:40, "For as Yahnah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
A very accurate and valid concern, and I agree especially on the Ishtar thing.
Green eggs and ham, mixing dominion over birth with believing anything that's heard.
And symbolically, millions even eat that meal every morning.
But the people eating the physical meal are not necessarily the ones eating it spiritually.

And on an individual basis, if they feed the poor and uplift the downtrodden, God will wink at the suit and tie church service, the way He winks at scrambled eggs and bacon every morning. Because He's searching the heart, not the ability to count days.
 

Hizikyah

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A very accurate and valid concern, and I agree especially on the Ishtar thing.
Green eggs and ham, mixing dominion over birth with believing anything that's heard.
And symbolically, millions even eat that meal every morning.
But the people eating the physical meal are not necessarily the ones eating it spiritually.

And on an individual basis, if they feed the poor and uplift the downtrodden, God will wink at the suit and tie church service, the way He winks at scrambled eggs and bacon every morning. Because He's searching the heart, not the ability to count days.
my brother I partly agree and partly disagree.

We must:

Yahchanan 4:24, "Yahweh is a Spirit and those who worship Him bmust worship Him in Spirit and in truth."

Hosheyah 4:6, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you will be no priest to Me..."

Yeremyah 10:2, "This is what Yahweh says: Do not learn the way of the heathen..."

Keeping Ishtar Sunday with festival of eggs and bunnies is the worship of a bablonian fertility goddess...

Yahweh's mercy is beyond grasp, yet I myself would never want to knowingly perform the rituals of a god in the face of Yahweh, dangerous ground...

Honestly I hope Yahweh wakes all of these people up so they may competely come out of babylon.

praise Yahweh for is ways are perfection!
 
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Caleb_Nesheq

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Didn't the ancient Hebrews use a LUNAR calendar? I notice the video refers to that wednesday as being Shabbot, though it wouldn't start untill the evening of Wed... Or did the Romans force them to use the Julian calendar? Also of interest is that the Julian calendar had 2 months added to its original format, which would explain why SEPTEMber, OCTOber, NOVEMber and DECEMber are not the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th months. ( it's a latin thing )
 

Hizikyah

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Didn't the ancient Hebrews use a LUNAR calendar? I notice the video refers to that wednesday as being Shabbot, though it wouldn't start untill the evening of Wed... Or did the Romans force them to use the Julian calendar? Also of interest is that the Julian calendar had 2 months added to its original format, which would explain why SEPTEMber, OCTOber, NOVEMber and DECEMber are not the 7th, 8th, 9th and 10th months. ( it's a latin thing )
Yeah, first the calendar was changed in and after the Hebrews were taken captive in Babylon, and our modern calendar is an extension of a Bablonian reckoning of time. The modern is Gregorian, from Julian, from Bablonian, probably alot of minor changes along the way too..

Thats why when we look at 3 days and 3 nights, we cant look at modern time or "hebrew mindset time" we have tolook at what Yahweh says it is, as Yahshua would have not followed any kind of pharisee calendar, but only what Yahweh had made
 

john832

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We can only get "3 days and 3 nights" counting like old timey hebrews, and only if Jesus ate the meal with His disciples a day early. (because He understood the sabbaths mean something other than keeping literal days and didn't care about doing it on a certain day)
Where did you get this MBFM?

Who do you suppose is speaking here?

Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Lev 19:3 Ye shall fear every man his mother, and his father, and keep my sabbaths: I am the LORD your God.

Lev 19:30 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Lev 26:2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Isa 56:4 For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
Isa 56:5 Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.

Eze 20:12 Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.

Eze 20:16 Because they despised my judgments, and walked not in my statutes, but polluted my sabbaths: for their heart went after their idols.

Eze 20:19 I am the LORD your God; walk in my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them;
Eze 20:20 And hallow my sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that I am the LORD your God.
Eze 20:21 Notwithstanding the children rebelled against me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the wilderness.

God poured out His fury on Israel because they polluted His Sabbaths.

Eze 22:8 Thou hast despised mine holy things, and hast profaned my sabbaths.

Eze 23:38 Moreover this they have done unto me: they have defiled my sanctuary in the same day, and have profaned my sabbaths.

Eze 44:24 And in controversy they shall stand in judgment; and they shall judge it according to my judgments: and they shall keep my laws and my statutes in all mine assemblies; and they shall hallow my sabbaths.

This is at the time of the Millenium (Ezek 40-48)

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.

In the Millenium, people will worship God on the Sabbath.

This sound like it came from One Who didn't care about a "certain" day?

Thursday night, Friday morning
Friday night, Saturday morning
Saturday night, Sunday morning
Nice count, but dead wrong. How long is the daylight portion of a day?

Joh 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
Joh 11:10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.

This means all of Sunday daylight would have to pass and the resurrection was at/about sunset on Sunday, beginning Monday.

The Passover was Wednesday, April 25, 31AD and Christ was buried about sunset on that day.

What we would call Wednesday night Thursday daylight was one day. Thursday night, Friday daylight was second day. Friday night Saturday daylight, third day. Theis puts the resurrection about sunset on Saturday afternoon.

The day part of Sunday was counted in full the moment the light of the sun was barely noticable in the sky, even though He was resurrected in that instant.
And again what does the Creator of day and night say...

Joh 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.
Joh 11:10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him.

Besides, He was gone before daylight. It was still dark...

Joh 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Joh 20:2 Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him.



They counted in advance instead of hindsight
Because when you say "three", you have counted it in full before the entire word leaves your mouth.
And because you have faith at the moment of counting, that the day will fully complete itself.

When you say "thank you for this food", you have faith that you will be able to then proceed to eat it.

And the whole issue is a distraction from brotherly love, because I can't start to tell you how much time I've wasted visiting this issue instead of sick people.

The argument serves no purpose unless we are trying to fault man, or God, or prove Him real, or prove Him fake.
Based on numbers even.
You are completely off on this.
 
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Matthew 28
[h=2]Q: Would you please explain Matthew 28:1?[/h] Some, in an attempt to teach a Sunday morning resurrection, have used Matthew 28:1 in support of such a teaching. We do know, however, that Jesus Christ was resurrected on Saturday afternoon, around sunset, after having been in the grave for three days and three nights. He was killed on a Wednesday, and placed in the grave on Wednesday afternoon, just around sunset.

"We read in Matthew 28:1-6 (Authorized Version): 'In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it… And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for HE IS RISEN, AS HE SAID.'

"We note from the passage that Christ was already resurrected by the time the women came to the grave. We are told that they appeared 'in the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week.' Many commentaries point out that this phrase discusses the END of the SABBATH, that is, Saturday evening or late afternoon, and NOT Sunday morning.
 
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[h=2]Q: Would you please explain Matthew 28:1?[/h] Some, in an attempt to teach a Sunday morning resurrection, have used Matthew 28:1 in support of such a teaching. We do know, however, that Jesus Christ was resurrected on Saturday afternoon, around sunset, after having been in the grave for three days and three nights. He was killed on a Wednesday, and placed in the grave on Wednesday afternoon, just around sunset.



"We read in Matthew 28:1-6 (Authorized Version): 'In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it… And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for HE IS RISEN, AS HE SAID.'

"We note from the passage that Christ was already resurrected by the time the women came to the grave. We are told that they appeared 'in the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week.' Many commentaries point out that this phrase discusses the END of the SABBATH, that is, Saturday evening or late afternoon, and NOT Sunday morning.
 
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You are completely off on this.
Quite possibly, yet, to what end?

And sorry, I don't know what mbfm stands for.