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recieved today???dedicated to supporting Islamic interests, this US administration is a backstabbing untrustworthy ally. That makes the following article certainly worth your reading time . . .

Originally published in The Jerusalem Post.
Posted on October 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM

During his visit to Israel in March, US President Barack Obama compelled Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu to apologize to his Turkish counterpart for the actions of IDF Naval Commandos aboard the Mavi Marmara terror ship in May 2010.

The Mavi Marmara was sent by the IHH, a Turkish- government supported, al-Qaida-aligned group, to try to break Israel's lawful maritime blockade of the Gaza coast. When the lightly armed naval commandos boarded the ship they were attacked by terrorists wielding knives and iron pipes. They were stabbed and bludgeoned. In the violence, nine Turkish terrorists were killed.

By forcing Israel to apologize to Turkey, Obama took the side of the aggressor against the victim.
Netanyahu apologized to Turkey's pro-Hamas Prime Minister Recep Erdogan in a phone call that Obama participated in. Obama promised that Turkey would accept Israel's apology and restore full diplomatic relations.
But nothing of the sort occurred. Last week, Turkish President Abdullah Gul told Yediot Aharonot that the apology came too late. And this week, Erdogan hosted Hamas chief Khaled Mashaal for the third time in the past year. Commentators have raised the prospect that Hamas may be hoping to transfer its headquarters from Qatar to Turkey.

The Egyptian military is now fighting Hamas in Sinai. The military-backed government blames the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood branch for fomenting the Islamist insurgency there. Egyptian forces have destroyed much of the tunnel network linking Gaza with Sinai that had enabled the cross-traffic of terrorists and munitions between the areas. This week, Egypt announced plans to demarcate Egypt's territorial waters along Gaza to prevent the transfer by sea of weapons and terror operatives between them.

Under these circumstances, Erdogan's embrace of Mashaal was a sign not only of support for Hamas and ill will toward Israel. It was a sign of animosity toward Egypt.

It is notable that the same day Erdogan welcomed Mashaal to Turkey, the Obama administration announced it is scaling back US military assistance to Egypt. The administration claims it is freezing the transfer of major military platforms to Egypt to show its dissatisfaction with the government's crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood government, and its impatience with the military's refusal to date to call elections after deposing the elected Muslim Brotherhood government in July.

The administration's declared concern for democracy is apparently limited to Egypt. One finds no trace of such concern for instance in the administration's relationship with Turkey. There, as Michael Rubin reported in Commentary, the Justice and Interior ministries just announced that people can now be jailed if they think about protesting against the government. In other words, NATO member Turkey is not merely considering becoming the official sponsor of a terrorist organization. The regime of the man Obama praised as his closest friend in the region has criminalized thought.

Not only has the administration refused to take any action against Turkey for its authoritarian governance and its pro-terror policies. Last month the US and Turkey along with Qatar announced a $200 million program under which Turkey and Qatar will develop materials aimed at promoting the Muslim Brotherhood's Islamist agenda. The stated aim of the Global Fund for Community Engagement and Resilience will be to convince Muslims to adopt the totalitarian Muslim Brotherhood version of Islam, but at the same time, to convince them not to join al-Qaida. The official launch of the initiative took place at the US-Turkish Global Counterterrorism Forum last month in New York.

When the forum was founded two years ago, the Obama administration bowed to Turkey's demand and barred Israel from participating in it.

Obama's success in forcing Netanyahu to apologize to Erdogan was the culmination of years of US pressure on Israel. Obama began gunning for an Israeli apology to his friend Erdogan almost immediately after the incident.
NOTABLY, IDF commanders led by then-defense minister Ehud Barak were early supporters of the move. They claimed that an apology would enable the US to restore Israel's strategic alliance with Turkey, and that the alliance with Ankara was too valuable to squander simply to defend the honor of our soldiers.

As Turkey's embrace of Hamas, its cultivation of the al-Qaida- and Muslim Brotherhood-dominated Syrian rebel forces, and its general hostility toward Israel at every turn show, Israel's military brass's hope to restore Israel's strategic alliance with Turkey was based a critical misreading of Turkish intentions. Barak and the generals failed to understand who Erdogan is. They failed to understand that by persecuting his political opponents through summary arrest and imprisonment without trial of leading members of the military, state bureaucracy, business community and media, Erdogan was transforming Turkey from a strategic ally into an enemy of Israel.

Instead of recognizing what was happening, they clung to the false belief that the blame for the deterioration of relations lay with Israel for insisting - albeit incompetently - on maintaining the blockade, and later on defending its soldiers' good names. They trusted that Obama would take care of things if Israel simply backed down.
AS EVELYN GORDON noted this week in Commentary, Israel's defense establishment has been similarly wrong about Iran. Much, if not all of the blame for the fact that Israel has failed to attack Iran's nuclear installations falls on the defense establishment. In an arguably treasonous act, in May 2011, outgoing Mossad director Meir Dagan publicly attacked Netanyahu for considering attacking Iran's nuclear installations. He was joined by outgoing Shin Bet chief Yuval Diskin and outgoing IDF chief of staff Lt.-Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi.

The three defense chiefs, along with President Shimon Peres, reportedly prevented Netanyahu and Barak from ordering a strike against Iran in 2010.

In repeated public statements, Dagan has insistently claimed that Israel can trust the US to take care of Iran for us. Yet as Obama's latest decisions on Syria and Iran make clear, the Obama administration is not committed to preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, or to stemming the flow and use of weapons of mass destruction by Iran and its allies. The administration's repeated claims that "all options are on the table" have no credibility.

In truth, it was easy to discern Obama's abject lack of concern about Iran becoming a nuclear power from the outset. Even before taking office he made every effort to show the Iranians that all he wanted was to negotiate with them. They had no reason for concern from an Obama administration.

On the other hand, as former national security adviser Giora Eiland revealed in August, Obama pressured Netanyahu to call off a planned strike against Iran's nuclear installations in the fall of 2012.

And yet, senior Israeli defense officials have served as Obama's chief lobbyists.

Then there is Egypt. Speaking at the Jerusalem Post conference in 2012, Ashkenazi said that neither he nor any of his colleagues foresaw the overthrow of President Hosni Mubarak. They did not recognize how Obama's open support for the Muslim Brotherhood endangered Mubarak. They did not notice how Mubarak's economic liberalization policies and his plan to have his son Gamal succeed him weakened the military's support for his leadership.

Israel's military and intelligence chiefs did not recognize how Egypt's economic weakness raised public dissatisfaction with Mubarak to unprecedented levels.

They did not consider the possibility that Obama could transfer US support from the man who upheld the peace treaty with Israel for three decades - and so served as the anchor for the US's alliance system in the Arab world - to his greatest enemies, the Muslim Brotherhood, which spawned Hamas and al-Qaida, along with jihadist networks throughout the world including in the United States.

And then there is Syria. As Gordon noted, the IDF leadership was similarly blinded by its preconceived notions on Syria. Israel's miliary leaders so misunderstood the nature of Syria's subservient alliance with Iran that they supported an Israeli surrender of the Golan Heights to Syria believing that such an Israeli move would convince Bashar Assad to ditch his alliance with Tehran. They did not recognize that Syria has never stood on its own. It was run first by the Ottomans, then the French and then by the Soviets. Once the Soviet Union broke up, Iran stepped into the breach.

As for the Palestinians, for the past 20 years, the same military and intelligence leadership has insisted that only a political settlement between Israel and the PLO will defeat and end Palestinian terrorism against Israel. The fact that the IDF has repeatedly defeated Palestinian terrorism, and the PLO has consistently organized and abetted that terrorism, has made little impact on the position of the General Staff.

On Saturday night, nine-year old Noam Glick was shot at close range by a terrorist while playing in her backyard. The terrorist had infiltrated her town. Her father reported hearing three gun shots.

Yet for several days, the IDF refused to acknowledge that it was a terrorist attack.

In a similar fashion, in September 2011, when Palestinian terrorists stoned Asher Palmer's car murdering him and his infant son Yonatan, the IDF took more than a week to acknowledge that it was a terrorist attack rather than a traffic accident.

In both cases, the clear aim of this insensitive obfuscation was to diminish public criticism of the Palestinians with whom Israel is now engaging and was seeking to engage in 2011.

Israel's military leadership failure to notice, let alone grasp the strategic implications of, regional and international developments is not new. It has been going on for at least 40 years.

Ever since our defense establishment fell asleep at the watch in the period leading up to the Yom Kippur War, many causes have been identified to explain its ongoing myopia.

Intellectual reliance on the leftist-dominated media; blind trust rather than critical analysis of statements by foreign sources and colleagues; lawyerization of military operations; over-dependence on technology; politicization of the senior ranks; and discrimination against religious officers have all been pointed to as factors that have contributed to Israel's senior defense officials' failure to foresee any major development and insistent blindness to their significance.

Certainly all have played a role in bringing about this dismal state of affairs.

But whatever the cause of our military and intelligence leadership's insistence on getting everything wrong, the fact is that they are Israel's Achilles' heel. Until steps are taken to rectify this situation, Israel's technological prowess and tactical brilliance will remain of limited value for securing the country and our interests.

Originally published in The Jerusalem Post.
Posted on October 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM
 
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This is prophecy unfolding before our eyes? But the blind shall lead blind , and both shall fall into a ditch? Prophecy is here a little there a little, line upon line precept upon precept? Many seek to remove the speck in thier brothers eye, whilst all the time thier is a plank in thier own ? Amen ? Proper understanding prophecy requires two main things? Mans history from gods point of view not our own history? The Holy Spirit to show the individual true meaning and context to our lords words? Not our words? A contrite heart I will by no means cast aside says The Lord or in other words one who cries to me with a pure heart I will call him to truth says The Lord .
 
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recieved today???dedicated to supporting Islamic interests, this US administration is a backstabbing untrustworthy ally. That makes the following article certainly worth your reading time . . .
Probably should start a new thread. I don't really see how this is related to the thread topic, unless you're implying that the same people behind the judaising and efforts to impose the law of Moses on Christians, are also behind the political machinations in Palestine?
 
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Well there is that as well friend bt your right bt I've gt the persons email now so we can talk in more depth on another platform not on cc apologies for that readers I was in dialogue privately there for a couple of posts bt I do intend to start many threads ahead bt until I move home shortly and set up computer proper I'm managing on I phone for a bit .lol sorry anyway to all ..
 
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Probably should start a new thread. I don't really see how this is related to the thread topic, unless you're implying that the same people behind the judaising and efforts to impose the law of Moses on Christians, are also behind the political machinations in Palestine?
It isn't the first time this thread has been derailed. The man was responding to a leading question. It's a mistake that I've made also.
 
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It isn't the first time this thread has been derailed. The man was responding to a leading question. It's a mistake that I've made also.
Yeah, I do it too. It keeps life interesting. :D

But there were a few whole book length posts (which I didn't really agree with), so I thought I'd better mention it, rather than get involved in a side-debate here. ;)
 
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Jesus is big enough for us to disagree friend it stops us thinking were right all of the time, always healthy to listen even to our enemies sometimes, The Lord causes the sun to shine on the just as well as the unjust amen....
 

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Are you not the woman who wrote the things above?
(you barely changed your name when you rejoined...) What name change? I've never "rejoined". Been a member since January 1, 2010.

You once claimed to believe the entire NT was written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit,
but there you go again claiming "Paul" must be being twisted. Because you don't like what's said? I like everything Paul said and I understand Paul, once you realize what he is historically in the story dealing with.
btw...not Paul's words...God's Word.
We need the whole counsel of God. AMEN
Of course the whole Bible is for the saved. The entire Bible is a Christian book! Christians who become ingrafted Israelites. The Bible is about Israel, the chosen people, and that includes after the cross, the story continues to represent the ingrafted Israelites.

It is the OT we interpret by the light of the New, not the other way around. I disagree. The New Testament is mostly quotes from the Old Testament.
This is one of the primary dangers of Judaizers, and the 2 Peter 3 verse seems to be a favorite. Judaizers? You make it sound negative, something bad. What is in your heart when you think of Judaizers?

You do realize that with your comment about people who do not follow Torah you have condemned them?
Saying they're on "the broad road"? Let the Holy Spirit be our guide. Mat 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. The word "narrow" here in this verse means "tribulations".
By the time the New Testament writers were writing of "Moses Law" they had diluted the importance
that they were God's laws, commandments, statues, ordinances, etc.
Just leave it to religious people to delute the importance of God's Words through his
mitzvah, Torah, statues, ordinances, commandments, laws, etc.
That is not one of my quotes. What are you trying to pull? A bit of dishonesty?
 
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Also as I've made clear before if I was here to endear myself to men I simply couldn't be speaking what I believe? I speak what I see and what is given and shown to me that's all I do its not my job to water just to plant ? Anyone who does not know 2 thess chapter 2 v9 to 12 and all it entails cannot properly grasp the knowledge needed to understand gods word to us today? Il name a few of the topics required understanding in depth is needed in the following history,of church since 323ad the nicence council, history of states and countries then and now full knowledge of freemasonry ancients and modern geo politics today esoteric language this is only a few things needed to see we're we are there are many more bt its for another platform or thread as you say the biggest threat to Christians is false teachers and as Timothy was instructed to deal with it then I also feel compelled to out the false teachers in the church today truth will out in the end true knowledge of the person Jesus makes mans intellect seen almost docile? Adam didn't realise the gravity of not listening to god and ever since we've bein doin same ? Jesus is my friend as well as my lord this changes everything I am was, and am going to be amen
 
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This is one of the primary dangers of Judaizers, and the 2 Peter 3 verse seems to be a favorite.
Judaizers? You make it sound negative, something bad. What is in your heart when you think of Judaizers?
Lol. Judaisers are negative. Here are some things in my heart when I think of Judaisers. (Hint: Judaisers = heresy) :D

Galations 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
Galations 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Galations 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Galations 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Galations 5:12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
Philipians 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
 

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Sorry for that,but what have u waithing for when in the moment of death u started to believe?
So,from your perspective u are saved now?
I see it as this God knows who believes truly. As the thief on the cross was about to die and saw that Christ was and is who
Christ said he is. Bottom line, no matter what, either one does believe or they do not period. Our Spirit testifies with God's Spirit and we know that God has us safe and secure in God through Son.
At least this is true for me. So no one can snatch me out of God's hand. No weapon can be formed against that will prosper to take away my salvation that I have in God through Son. It is god that carries on the work that god began in me and all that believe in God through Son
[h=3]Philippians 3:12-21[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]I don’t mean to say I am perfect. I haven’t learned all I should even yet, but I keep working toward that day when I will finally be all that Christ saved me for and wants me to be.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]No, dear brothers, I am still not all I should be, but I am bringing all my energies to bear on this one thing: Forgetting the past and looking forward to what lies ahead, [SUP]14 [/SUP]I strain to reach the end of the race and receive the prize for which God is calling us up to heaven because of what Christ Jesus did for us.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I hope all of you who are mature Christians will see eye-to-eye with me on these things, and if you disagree on some point, I believe that God will make it plain to you— [SUP]16 [/SUP]if you fully obey the truth you have.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Dear brothers, pattern your lives after mine, and notice who else lives up to my example. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For I have told you often before, and I say it again now with tears in my eyes, there are many who walk along the Christian road who are really enemies of the cross of Christ. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Their future is eternal loss, for their god is their appetite: they are proud of what they should be ashamed of; and all they think about is this life here on earth. [SUP]20 [/SUP]But our homeland is in heaven, where our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, is; and we are looking forward to his return from there. [SUP]21 [/SUP]When he comes back, he will take these dying bodies of ours and change them into glorious bodies like his own, using the same mighty power that he will use to conquer all else everywhere.
 
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Why do you ask? I thought you would know, or are you asking to this question that is really foolish, and Biblically we should avoid questions like this. I think you know why. These men trusted God. God was using these people in the process of events leading up to the founding of the nation of Israel. Why didn't you include Moses? He didn't have the law either until Israel existed. God told him what to say to them. Where did Israel learn to transgress? Egypt represents the World, and we are in the world just as they were.
because i aready answered it. before you

Exodus 23:20-22 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.

Romans 4:15 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

Galatians 3:19 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

19Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20A mediator, however, implies more than one party; but God is one. 21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
again an other half quote.

I suppose some will believe that transgressions will go away when the law goes away. Nice carnal thought, bad consequence.
but that will not be the children of jesus.
Romans 8:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.[/
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9You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ. 10But if Christ is in you, then even though your body is subject to death because of sin, the Spirit gives life[35] because of righteousness. 11And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies because of[36] his Spirit who lives in you.

the other part added are about the new covenent. again seem you pick and choose who you talk to thinking , you get brownie point, for an answer. yet have fell short , yet it me that is rude try to find or tell the truth.
 

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Generally,there r no many things that we would agree here.Not because i do not want that,but because am coming from something totally different.Many will mix me with R Catholic,but we do not have a lot of common,since last 1000 years of separation.
Well I say this in truth, you are loved by God period no matter what another says, you are loved
 

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Lol. Judaisers are negative. Here are some things in my heart when I think of Judaisers. (Hint: Judaisers = heresy) :D

Galations 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
Galations 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Galations 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Galations 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Galations 5:12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
Philipians 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

Reminder: Jesus was a Jew. Jesus was a Rabbi. Follow Jesus and His teachings and you might become a Judaizer.
 

homwardbound

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Jesus was and still is the fulfilled covenant,he said he came to fulfill the law.He also said, Love covers a multitude of sins,hence in true love you do not sin.People have a really hard time understanding true love.Forgiveness is, love,being merciful and having obedience to God is that love he desires from us.People are confused all Sins are still Sins and remain very wrong.A relationship with God is called for, a close one.In this way we stay strong in faith, and able to stay on the right path.Disobedience is still just that something God never liked or will.
And is why he sent his Son to die for us and then live again for us to have new life in rejoicing for Father's Mercy. Just being busy in praises and thanksgiving
 
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Reminder: Jesus was a Jew. Jesus was a Rabbi. Follow Jesus and His teachings and you might become a Judaizer.
Lol. Jesus was and is the Christ. His lineage is from Judah, but he was certainly not one of those Pharisees, who today call themselves "Jews" but are not, and are a synagogue of Satan. He is our Teacher, but I can assure you, if we follow His teachings, we will never become Judaisers. :D Fishers of men, perhaps, but not Judaisers. :D
 

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Lol. Judaisers are negative. Here are some things in my heart when I think of Judaisers. (Hint: Judaisers = heresy) :D

Galations 3:1 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
Galations 3:10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
Galations 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
Galations 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
Galations 5:12 I would they were even cut off which trouble you.
Philipians 3:2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
FAQ - Galatians 3:10-13 – Is God’s Law a Curse or Did We Curse Ourselves?

There are many who read Galatians 3:10-13 and conclude that God’s law is a curse and anyone that follows God’s law is under that curse. But is that really what Paul is stating? According to scripture, how is a curse related to God’s law and what places us under it? Why are we cursed? Are we cursed for following God’s law, or not following God’s law (sin)? If our Savior takes away the curse of the law does He take away the whole law (blessings too) or just the curse of God’s law? To understand Paul correctly we need to be able to answer these questions.

Ga 3:10 For as many as are of works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Ga 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:

Galatians is perhaps the single letter of Paul that is the cause of the most confusion surrounding God ’s law. Once someone discovers that the whole Bible is true and that nothing in God’s Word is abolished it is not long before someone states “go read Galatians again.” This is because many mistakenly believe Galatians teaches against obedience to God's law. In reality Paul is correcting the false doctrine of salvation through God’s law (legalism). As a result, Paul teaches throughout the letter the correct and simple Biblical process of salvation in faith by grace to counter this false doctrine. Nowhere does Paul teach against obedience to God’s law, just against the doctrine of salvation by God’s law. It is the ability to discern the difference between legalism and obedience that enables a reader of Paul’s letter to draw sound doctrinal conclusions. Confusing legalism with obedience is the root cause of all interpretive error in the letter to the Galatians.
 

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Bottom line is we live by the ways of the spirit, which is the author and goal of the letter (law).
Not to say anyone is perfect. so maybe see the following from Paul to each of us, praying the Spirit opens up my eyes ands everyone else's too.
Thanks
[h=3]Philippians 3:12-21[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]I don’t mean to say I am perfect. I haven’t learned all I should even yet, but I keep working toward that day when I will finally be all that Christ saved me for and wants me to be.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]No, dear brothers, I am still not all I should be, but I am bringing all my energies to bear on this one thing: Forgetting the past and looking forward to what lies ahead, [SUP]14 [/SUP]I strain to reach the end of the race and receive the prize for which God is calling us up to heaven because of what Christ Jesus did for us.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]I hope all of you who are mature Christians will see eye-to-eye with me on these things, and if you disagree on some point, I believe that God will make it plain to you— [SUP]16 [/SUP]if you fully obey the truth you have.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Dear brothers, pattern your lives after mine, and notice who else lives up to my example. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For I have told you often before, and I say it again now with tears in my eyes, there are many who walk along the Christian road who are really enemies of the cross of Christ. [SUP]19 [/SUP]Their future is eternal loss, for their god is their appetite: they are proud of what they should be ashamed of; and all they think about is this life here on earth. [SUP]20 [/SUP]But our homeland is in heaven, where our Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, is; and we are looking forward to his return from there. [SUP]21 [/SUP]When he comes back, he will take these dying bodies of ours and change them into glorious bodies like his own, using the same mighty power that he will use to conquer all else everywhere.
 
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We are to obey God's commandments and His laws, and this should be out from the abundance of joy in our hearts knowing that He has saved us out from our own unworthiness and lawlessness. We obey because the Holy Spirit prompts us to obey, our good works or obeying the commandments are the fruit of the Holy Spirit's sanctifying work in us. We should not do good works to attain salvation.
 
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FAQ - Galatians 3:10-13 – Is God’s Law a Curse or Did We Curse Ourselves?

There are many who read Galatians 3:10-13 and conclude that God’s law is a curse and anyone that follows God’s law is under that curse. But is that really what Paul is stating? According to scripture, how is a curse related to God’s law and what places us under it? Why are we cursed? Are we cursed for following God’s law, or not following God’s law (sin)? If our Savior takes away the curse of the law does He take away the whole law (blessings too) or just the curse of God’s law? To understand Paul correctly we need to be able to answer these questions.

Ga 3:10 For as many as are of works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continues not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Ga 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangs on a tree:

Galatians is perhaps the single letter of Paul that is the cause of the most confusion surrounding God ’s law. Once someone discovers that the whole Bible is true and that nothing in God’s Word is abolished it is not long before someone states “go read Galatians again.” This is because many mistakenly believe Galatians teaches against obedience to God's law. In reality Paul is correcting the false doctrine of salvation through God’s law (legalism). As a result, Paul teaches throughout the letter the correct and simple Biblical process of salvation in faith by grace to counter this false doctrine. Nowhere does Paul teach against obedience to God’s law, just against the doctrine of salvation by God’s law. It is the ability to discern the difference between legalism and obedience that enables a reader of Paul’s letter to draw sound doctrinal conclusions. Confusing legalism with obedience is the root cause of all interpretive error in the letter to the Galatians.
This is just meaningless mush. Not saved by law, but required to be obedient to law? What disingenuous artifice and sophistry.

It is clear that only those who are disobedient to GOD by not following the spirit (rather than the law) are under the law, and therefore under its curse:

If you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Galatians 5:18

As many as are of the works of the law are under a curse, for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all the things that are written in the book of the law to do them.” Galatians 3:10​

And it is clear the obedience to GOD is through faith, not works of law:

We are witnesses of these things, and so is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey him.” Acts 5:32

I want only to learn this from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now trying to be made complete by the flesh? Have you suffered so many things for nothing—if indeed also it was for nothing? Therefore does the one who gives you the Spirit and who works miracles among you do so by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Galatians 3:2-5

As you received Christ Jesus the Lord [by faith], so walk in him [by faith]: Rooted and built up in him, established in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Colossians 2:6-7​
 
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