The IMF Wants YOUR Money

[AgeofKnowledge]

The IMF wants to confiscate your wealth because the liberal and necon politicians you voted into office mismanaged economics so badly. And I quote:

"That means that all households with positive net wealth—everyone with retirement savings or home equity—would have their assets plundered under the IMF’s formulation.

Second, such a repudiation of private property will not pay off Western governments’ debts or fund budgets going forward. It will merely “restore debt sustainability,” allowing free-spending sovereigns to keep tapping the bond markets until the next crisis comes along—for which stronger measures will be required, of course."

The International Monetary Fund Lays The Groundwork For Global Wealth Confiscation - Forbes

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

The IMF wants to confiscate your wealth because the liberal and necon politicians you voted into office mismanaged economics so badly. And I quote:

"That means that all households with positive net wealth—everyone with retirement savings or home equity—would have their assets plundered under the IMF’s formulation.

Second, such a repudiation of private property will not pay off Western governments’ debts or fund budgets going forward. It will merely “restore debt sustainability,” allowing free-spending sovereigns to keep tapping the bond markets until the next crisis comes along—for which stronger measures will be required, of course."

The International Monetary Fund Lays The Groundwork For Global Wealth Confiscation - Forbes

I think this post is naive. I like that you said "the IMF wants to confiscate your wealth", although a better word for confiscate would have been steal. However, the idea that they want to do it because of the "liberal and necon politicians you voted into office mismanaged economics so badly" is a bit naive. The IMF was designed to steal wealth. That's what they do. It's like a big, international syndicate for theft.

To say that they only steal when people vote in liberal and neo-con politicians? Lol. Do thieves only steal when those guys get voted in?

Who voted away the rights of a republic? Can these rights ever be voted away? I reckon the IMF wants to steal your money, but they're trying to blame you for the reason they stole it.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Wrong. Your own ignorance in no way equates to me being naive.

The IMF was initiated at the Bretton Woods Conference (same time GATT was signed which the WTO replaced) along with the IBRD as the main banking and trade tools for reconstruction after WWII and they did a first class job. They did such a good job that a mere decade later industrialized countries were flourishing. And, the IMF was a primary driver in assisting the third world to modernize.

The U.S. Treasury National Debt Statistics shows that on January 31, 1981 ten days after Ronald Reagan took office for the first time (U.S. Presidents enter office on January 20th and leave office on January 21st four years later unless they resign or are impeached), the U.S. national debt was only $934.073 billion total.

I'll give Reagan credit for winning the Cold War with the Soviet Union through a carefully planned arms race that bankrupted the Soviet Empire. But it was accomplished through massive deficit spending, the worst since WWII. The sweeping amnesty he signed fueled the growth of social services, his fiscal policy (e.g. undermining of Glass–Steagall, trickle-down Reaganomics, etc...) became reckless, and he began expanding trade in the wrong way. The legislature made it worse because for the first time in U.S. history they began to borrow from Social Security and replace the money with treasury instrument IOUs.

But it wasn't until Bush Sr.'s NEW WORLD ORDER manifested that the deterioration really began. I could write a book about how damaging this actually was. In fact, books have already been written detailing it. GATT was replaced with the WTO, a new era of "free" trade replaced balanced trade, he gutted banking controls and continued in expansionary money policy, by his 2nd term he literally just gave up on the economy, etc... etc... etc...

Clinton cosigned all of it as he came into power though he enjoyed the gift of bubbles that weren't his fault including the real estate bubble and the dot.com bubble. These served to make him look much better than he actually was.

Obama has been a train wreck. He's engaged in everything Bush Sr. Jr. put together did.

The IMF was an asset once that aided in swift reconstruction after WWII and a driver in modernizing the Third World. It wasn't UNTIL the collapse of the Soviet Union that new players with new designs came into power and engaged in sweeping debt fueled expansionary policies, massive trade imbalances, sweeping deregulation, etc... that brought us rapid deterioration and crisis.

The problem now is how do you fix something that's broken and run by individuals profiting from it's brokenness. The IMF/WTO is exactly that today.

But so are most of our own American institutions. Public education is systemically broken and rapidly deteriorating despite massive amounts of money allocated to it. Our immigration system is broken. An illegal alien can vote in our elections and now be a lawyer in California. I wouldn't be surprised in the future if a foreign spy ends up being voted in for president... lol. When everything's breaking down, anything's possible.

But you're assertion that the IMF was started to rob mankind for the benefit of a few is patently false and ignorant MR. Maybe next time say "I think..." instead of making false assertions and calling me naive. Unbelievable.

 

[zone]

The IMF wants to confiscate your wealth because the liberal and necon politicians you voted into office mismanaged economics so badly. And I quote:

"That means that all households with positive net wealth—everyone with retirement savings or home equity—would have their assets plundered under the IMF’s formulation.

Second, such a repudiation of private property will not pay off Western governments’ debts or fund budgets going forward. It will merely “restore debt sustainability,” allowing free-spending sovereigns to keep tapping the bond markets until the next crisis comes along—for which stronger measures will be required, of course."

The International Monetary Fund Lays The Groundwork For Global Wealth Confiscation - Forbes

dis is news?
i thought you just said 'banking' isn't the problem?

dontcha know what the IMF / BIS is?

the banking system was established for a super-obvious long term single goal: Global Wealth Confiscation.

like....??? we didn't know this?

the communist/capitalist dialectic was the means - for Global Wealth Confiscation (Global Fascism/Feudalism)

so all y'all calling for "austerity" - that's exactly what you're going to get.

go read Das Capital again.

mismanaged? LOL....they managed it perfectly.
look at them go!

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

I can't have a discussion with someone rambling nonsensically zone. There's a bum on the corner that mutters conspiracies to himself all day like the post you just wrote.

Please form coherent sentences into some kind of a logical argument so that we can have a discussion. That last post of yours in no way qualifies. I'm not trying to put you down just to get you to communicate effectively so I don't have to try and respond to screed.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

But you're assertion that the IMF was started to rob mankind for the benefit of a few is patently false and ignorant MR. Maybe next time say "I think..." instead of making false assertions and calling me naive. Unbelievable.

I think you are a bit naive, A-OK. But I think that I like that you're making efforts to educate yourself - baby steps, eh?

"I can't have a discussion with someone rambling nonsensically"

I think this about your post - so many words, so little meaning.

I think this (non-Christian) site might help you understand about our current usurious money system.

The Money Myth Exploded

I think there's a little bit on the end about social credit which can be ignored, but the crux is under heading 9 - the interest can never be repaid.

 

[zone]

I can't have a discussion with someone rambling nonsensically zone. There's a bum on the corner that mutters conspiracies to himself all day like the post you just wrote.

Please form coherent sentences into some kind of a logical argument so that we can have a discussion. That last post of yours in no way qualifies. I'm not trying to put you down just to get you to communicate effectively so I don't have to try and respond to screed.

AoK.
the IMF and Bank of International Settlements/World Bank are the collection agencies for the nations who were deliberatley bankrupted by the central banking systems each was duped into accepting. they expand and contract the money supply; cause recessions and booms at will. they always have.

all the national (central) banking systems (cartels) are one giant international 'bank' (mafia) operation, looting every nation.

when the nation can't repay its debt, the thugs are called in with an agreement.
that would be your IMF/BIS.

the agreement is basically a horsehead in the bed.

since you (i.e - USA) can not repay your debt....which you foolishly incurred by borrowing 'money' from we bankers (money that doesn't exist and that we never had) at compound interest (hint - this was your first clue the plan was that you never be able to repay)......we have to make other arrangements.

that would include you complying with every demand we make in this IMF/BIS deal (more debt; abortions; big-agri; our trade demands; your infrastructure; slave wages; death panels; immigration policies...etc etc)

it's RICO on steroids.

real simple. eventually all the gold and assets end up owned by the PRIVATELY OWNED IMF.

same guys who own the Fed.

 

[letti]

A little fed info,very informative,Rothschild Conspiracy International Banking Cartel and The Federal Reserve - YouTube

 

[ChristianUk13]

AoK.
the IMF and Bank of International Settlements/World Bank are the collection agencies for the nations who were deliberatley bankrupted by the central banking systems each was duped into accepting. they expand and contract the money supply; cause recessions and booms at will. they always have.

* The United Nations is the umbrella authority for the IMF and the World Bank. * These two entities force governments of the world to make decisions which support their interests. The world is not how it looks, governments only have limited powers; banking entities and businesses under public guise have the real power.

IMF

The IMF means the International Monetary Fund. How does the IMF work in practise? Well, it is based on world government model, a public organisation which bails other failing country's govenments. There will be at least one member of the IMF for each country. In the Uk it is Gordon Osbourne, they are usually the main financial minister of the govenment. The US controls the IMF decisions owing to seniority. The IMF has a United States address. It offers loans to these countries with conditions applied. The main goal of the IMF is business interest and to reduce welfare states for poor performing countries ie those who experience debt. In terms of Iraq its financial minister on behalf of its banks agreed to certain loans on the condition that its oil asset be privatised and marketed at a fair price. This occured some years after the Iraq invasion once a soft government was in place to support the idea of democracy.

IMF and Argentina

Around about 2001 the IMF secured a financial relationship with Argentina. Argentina, apparently owing to fraudulent politicans, was made bankrupt. Look at You tube videos, you will see the state's workers rioting, main |Highways blocked into its capital, Buenos Aires. Pensions were lost as were savings for many. The Argentine Peso currency was changed to the US dollar for several years, until quite recently i believe. The countries main assiets, welfare, water, gas etc in some case were privatised for few cents in the dollar, sold to foreign companies likely associated with US.

World Bank

The World Bank is a similar type of organisation to the IMF but it caters to developing or poor countries, or countries whose infrastructure has been damaged by war. The World Bank also has a subsidiary Banks, i think including the Bank of Settlements. Its business is also introducing higher education systems (ie college) in developing nations, the IMF likely does also. It is has a European address so that the conflict of argument is reduced but it is still largely controlled by the US owing to its over-representation of US interests and voting power. In terms of Iraq, this country was forced to take World Bank loans for IMF bail outs. The Iraqi welfare state was ordered by either the IMF or the World Bank or possibly both to drastically cut its welfare programs.

 

[zone]

AoK.
the IMF and Bank of International Settlements/World Bank are the collection agencies for the nations who were deliberatley bankrupted by the central banking systems each was duped into accepting. they expand and contract the money supply; cause recessions and booms at will. they always have.

* The United Nations is the umbrella authority for the IMF and the World Bank. * These two entities force governments of the world to make decisions which support their interests. The world is not how it looks, governments only have limited powers; banking entities and businesses under public guise have the real power.

IMF

The IMF means the International Monetary Fund. How does the IMF work in practise? Well, it is based on world government model, a public organisation which bails other failing country's govenments. There will be at least one member of the IMF for each country. In the Uk it is Gordon Osbourne, they are usually the main financial minister of the govenment. The US controls the IMF decisions owing to seniority. The IMF has a United States address. It offers loans to these countries with conditions applied. The main goal of the IMF is business interest and to reduce welfare states for poor performing countries ie those who experience debt. In terms of Iraq its financial minister on behalf of its banks agreed to certain loans on the condition that its oil asset be privatised and marketed at a fair price. This occured some years after the Iraq invasion once a soft government was in place to support the idea of democracy.

IMF and Argentina

Around about 2001 the IMF secured a financial relationship with Argentina. Argentina, apparently owing to fraudulent politicans, was made bankrupt. Look at You tube videos, you will see the state's workers rioting, main |Highways blocked into its capital, Buenos Aires. Pensions were lost as were savings for many. The Argentine Peso currency was changed to the US dollar for several years, until quite recently i believe. The countries main assiets, welfare, water, gas etc in some case were privatised for few cents in the dollar, sold to foreign companies likely associated with US.

World Bank

The World Bank is a similar type of organisation to the IMF but it caters to developing or poor countries, or countries whose infrastructure has been damaged by war. The World Bank also has a subsidiary Banks, i think including the Bank of Settlements. Its business is also introducing higher education systems (ie college) in developing nations, the IMF likely does also. It is has a European address so that the conflict of argument is reduced but it is still largely controlled by the US owing to its over-representation of US interests and voting power. In terms of Iraq, this country was forced to take World Bank loans for IMF bail outs. The Iraqi welfare state was ordered by either the IMF or the World Bank or possibly both to drastically cut its welfare programs.

rockefeller; guatemala; churches; united fruit company; cia...etc.

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[AgeofKnowledge]

You're obviously under some sort of delusion about me. I'm an educated experienced man with a straight A MBA. Why are you engaging in infantile ad hominem while making various false assertions? I think this is a case where you are projecting your own naiveté and misunderstanding of banking and economics at me. Sad but true. Let's deal with your false assertions one at a time.

1. My posts ARE meaningful.
2. I understand micro and macro economics, banking, finance, political science, etc... just fine. You're kindergarten link only reveals the level you're working at.
3. The interest can be repaid. The entire debt can be repaid. The system can be reformed. All of these things are possible and you're wrong to falsely assert they cannot be. There are two roads of reform. Road one, we reform it before it collapses. Road two, we refuse to change what we are doing to get desirable results and it collapses and then we start over.

I wish you would think for a change.

I think you are a bit naive, A-OK. But I think that I like that you're making efforts to educate yourself - baby steps, eh?

I think this about your post - so many words, so little meaning.

I think this (non-Christian) site might help you understand about our current usurious money system.

The Money Myth Exploded

I think there's a little bit on the end about social credit which can be ignored, but the crux is under heading 9 - the interest can never be repaid.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Thanks for the post zone. I'll get back to it as I have things to do today. But rest assured, I will as there's definitely enough there to discuss. Peace.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

1. My posts ARE meaningful.

Full of detail is not always meaningful. But I agree with you that this post had meaning.

2. I understand micro and macro economics, banking, finance, political science, etc... just fine.

You seem like a smart guy. Now you should turn your focus to understanding the monetary system.

You're kindergarten link only reveals the level you're working at.

Kindergarten links are good for when people struggle with the basics.

3. The interest can be repaid. The entire debt can be repaid. The system can be reformed. All of these things are possible and you're wrong to falsely assert they cannot be. There are two roads of reform. Road one, we reform it before it collapses. Road two, we refuse to change what we are doing to get desirable results and it collapses and then we start over.

Sigh. You never understood the kindergarten link? How can a debt be repaid, if there is not enough money to repay it?

I wish you would think for a change.

I try.

 

[zone]

Thanks for the post zone. I'll get back to it as I have things to do today. But rest assured, I will as there's definitely enough there to discuss. Peace.

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worth a listen AoK.

 

[zone]

3. The interest can be repaid. The entire debt can be repaid. The system can be reformed.

no AoK.
the debt can not be repaid.
the system can not be reformed.

it was designed this way.
there's only trouble ahead.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

Repeating the error zone doesn't change the fact that it's an erroneous statement. There are so many ways to repay the national debt but you are entirely clueless about any of them and you don't really want to what they are either. Uneducated in these matters but strong willed, opinionated, and close minded is not a good combination in matters of sophisticated subject matter.

You've told me that you believe a group of less than 2,000 Jews have a pact with Satan to rule the world. You've told me a lot of really bizarre nonsensical things. I guess it's just easier to believe that than the truth. You have a book called Jekyll Island. I've read it and it's clearly lacking understanding and depth while misapplying labels to discredit people and events because the author's facts are incomplete. Instead of immersing yourself in a worldwide Jew conspiracy theory and using guilt by association (as the author of that book does) and every other fallacious practice under the sun to prove nonsense, try educating yourself by reading some scholarly books for a change.

I should be able to deal with your previous post in the not too distant future here but I've got people over and it's going to be a busy week. But I'll get to it. In the meanwhile, try not to simply keep parroting false assertions that 2,000 Jews rule the world for Satan and that reform is impossible. It may be improbable because people won't do it but it's in NO way impossible to do. Thanking you in advance.

 

[Married_Richenbrachen]

Repeating the error zone doesn't change the fact that it's an erroneous statement.

That's right, AOK - an error repeated is still false. But if you already knew that, why did you repeat the error? Have you something to gain by doing this?

There are so many ways to repay the national debt but you are entirely clueless about any of them and you don't really want to what they are either. Uneducated in these matters but strong willed, opinionated, and close minded is not a good combination in matters of sophisticated subject matter.

Are there some things you're not allowed to say, AOK? Because if you have permission, I'd like you to explain how you can repay the national debt when all you have to repay it with are the borrowings, and when all the borrowings are subject to interest. How can you repay debt with more debt, AOK? This is the first lesson for rehabilitating credit card junkies.

You've told me that you believe a group of less than 2,000 Jews have a pact with Satan to rule the world. You've told me a lot of really bizarre nonsensical things. I guess it's just easier to believe that than the truth. You have a book called Jekyll Island. I've read it and it's clearly lacking understanding and depth while misapplying labels to discredit people and events because the author's facts are incomplete. Instead of immersing yourself in a worldwide Jew conspiracy theory and using guilt by association (as the author of that book does) and every other fallacious practice under the sun to prove nonsense, try educating yourself by reading some scholarly books for a change.

Lol. You know what I find bizarre, AOK? It's that when presented with a fairly straightforward charge about the injustice of the monetary system, instead of attempting to refute it, you totally sidestepped the issue and started talking about 2000 Jews and a pact with Satan. Almost as if you are trying to obscufate the issue for others reading the thread.

In other threads, I read that you served your country in the military. I'd hate to think you would now throw your past service away by working to deceive your fellow countrymen. I hope that you’re not being purposefully deceptive, AOK. But with your “straight A MBA” and all that understanding of “micro and macro economics, banking, finance, political science, etc.”, I’m finding it very hard to believe you don’t understand something as simple as our debt monetary system…

I should be able to deal with your previous post in the not too distant future here but I've got people over and it's going to be a busy week. But I'll get to it. In the meanwhile, try not to simply keep parroting false assertions that 2,000 Jews rule the world for Satan and that reform is impossible. It may be improbable because people won't do it but it's in NO way impossible to do. Thanking you in advance.

Better hurry, AOK. People are reading this thread while you’re away. Every minute you leave such issues unaddressed, people are reading about how corrupt our existing financial systems are. If I were your employer, I would not be impressed paying for such sloppy service. Perhaps you could ask for reinforcements?

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

You're acting like a juvenile jerk in my thread MR. What part of I have family over and am busy so can't spend lots of time here today was so difficult for you to comprehend.

You can read. So putting words in my mouth that I never said despite me saying the opposite is therefore a deliberate act on your part.

I corrected your false assertion about the original purpose of the IMF, explained to you that it was an organization that did a great deal of good in post WWII reconstruction, and then stated that it had rapidly changed at the end of the Cold War to an organization in need of either replacement or dramatic reform.

You just ignored all of that to launch false personal attacks about what I have said and put words in my mouth that I never said. Furthermore, you continue to make false assertions about the topic itself.

At this point, you're a liar launching personal attacks. That makes you a troll. For that reason, I am putting you on ignore and reporting you.

Please go find somewhere else to play. Thanking you in advance.

That's right, AOK - an error repeated is still false. But if you already knew that, why did you repeat the error? Have you something to gain by doing this?

Are there some things you're not allowed to say, AOK? Because if you have permission, I'd like you to explain how you can repay the national debt when all you have to repay it with are the borrowings, and when all the borrowings are subject to interest. How can you repay debt with more debt, AOK? This is the first lesson for rehabilitating credit card junkies.

Lol. You know what I find bizarre, AOK? It's that when presented with a fairly straightforward charge about the injustice of the monetary system, instead of attempting to refute it, you totally sidestepped the issue and started talking about 2000 Jews and a pact with Satan. Almost as if you are trying to obscufate the issue for others reading the thread.

In other threads, I read that you served your country in the military. I'd hate to think you would now throw your past service away by working to deceive your fellow countrymen. I hope that you’re not being purposefully deceptive, AOK. But with your “straight A MBA” and all that understanding of “micro and macro economics, banking, finance, political science, etc.”, I’m finding it very hard to believe you don’t understand something as simple as our debt monetary system…

Better hurry, AOK. People are reading this thread while you’re away. Every minute you leave such issues unaddressed, people are reading about how corrupt our existing financial systems are. If I were your employer, I would not be impressed paying for such sloppy service. Perhaps you could ask for reinforcements?

 

[ChristianUk13]

AOG, if you're as smart as you think you are...then why do you feel the need to boast of your qualifcations? Seriously dude who cares. Zone is clearly alluding to a conspiracy which you may or may not be smart enough to see save its actual eventuality. Please have respect for Zone and don't treat her like something under your shoes. You would not treat your sister, your mom, or other female relative this way, please adopt the same for this lady. In any event, you're just being an elitist jerk whom in my view is going out of his way to sound smart. My law tutors were some of the finest minds in the UK but they never even needed to use big words. If you make statements at least do it in a civil way. An MBA might mean so much to you, but to me it's just a qualification; if anything as the courts do also, I will expect far more from you than any other person who does not have your qualification. This is what we do in law, we apply appropriate and proportionate standards when considering representations submitted as evidence.

 

[1still_waters]

Things look to be getting personal and accusatorial. Please step back get on topic.