Food Stamps Reduced in November

[MissCris]

One thing that has been a problem in my area with churches(and I assume many other areas as well) is people take advantage of charity from churches so they have become more strict on who they give to.
One example is a young couple with children were struggling to pay rent, so a church her gave them $1,000.00 to catch up on rent. The couple ended up blowing the money on other things like video games, a new tv, etc. Then the couple asks for more money. What's a church to do? Give more money knowing they're just going to blow it?

I've seen this same sort of thing happen with people on food stamps a lot. I used to work as a cashier at a grocery store, and I would say that for every 5 people who came through and used food stamps, 3 of those people were purchasing mainly crap food. I'm not talking about buying a bag of chips or a carton of ice cream or whatever along with some produce or meat or stuff to make meals out of; a lot of these people would spend 100 bucks on ONLY chips, ice cream, cookies...stuff that wasn't going to nourish anyone and wouldn't last tan entire week.

I know it isn't my place to judge them for what they do with their assistance here, but it was always so frustrating to see that happen, because there were other people who would come through my check-line and pay for a pound of hamburger or a jar of peanut butter with coins.

That's just how people are anymore, I guess...they get in a tight spot and someone helps them, and they waste the money :/

 

[letti]

I've seen this same sort of thing happen with people on food stamps a lot. I used to work as a cashier at a grocery store, and I would say that for every 5 people who came through and used food stamps, 3 of those people were purchasing mainly crap food. I'm not talking about buying a bag of chips or a carton of ice cream or whatever along with some produce or meat or stuff to make meals out of; a lot of these people would spend 100 bucks on ONLY chips, ice cream, cookies...stuff that wasn't going to nourish anyone and wouldn't last tan entire week.

I know it isn't my place to judge them for what they do with their assistance here, but it was always so frustrating to see that happen, because there were other people who would come through my check-line and pay for a pound of hamburger or a jar of peanut butter with coins.

That's just how people are anymore, I guess...they get in a tight spot and someone helps them, and they waste the money :/

I agree with that,I see it quite a bit also,plus I have had to scrape money together coins to buy things..Some truly need help.God knows who meanwhile, others do not, or they misuse, and abuse the help given to them.

 

[jimmydiggs]

One thing that has been a problem in my area with churches(and I assume many other areas as well) is people take advantage of charity from churches so they have become more strict on who they give to.
One example is a young couple with children were struggling to pay rent, so a church her gave them $1,000.00 to catch up on rent. The couple ended up blowing the money on other things like video games, a new tv, etc. Then the couple asks for more money. What's a church to do? Give more money knowing they're just going to blow it?

Pay the rent directly.

 

[Oncefallen]

The truly disappointing part about it is that this reduction is not a part of a wider welfare reform program or a more expensive campaign of spending cuts. This makes me wonder what the purpose of it is.

Technically it's not a reduction, it's a returning to normal benefits. The huge pork package passed years ago under the guise of "stimulus" included a temporary increase in food stamps benefits. IMO it was the buying of votes to insure a certain someone got re-elected.

You gotta admit he's a master tactician. Increased food benefits expire in his second term, the fiasco of a healthcare program (you know, the one that a lot of people though was going to give them free healthcare) kicks in during his second term................

 

[SonInMe]

Yeah,i know plenty of people who raise eyebrows at least mine.Abuse of the system,hmm they should weed out those that take advantage cause some people did not ask for their situation that befell , and others just abuse a already flawed system.Poverty has,to many causes some could be remedied,and others can't.This system is a revolving door,it never get's better because they never address the problems they could fix,wage reform,creation of more jobs,they complain and do nothing to solve what could be solved.A good majority of the so called, Food Stamp recipients do work, and even at full time on scrap wages can't pay all the bills, and buy food plus let's not mention gasoline prices to get to that job that only pays scrap wages.

You are mistaken. The answer is not the government, forcing higher wages, or benefits.

The answer is jobs and the bigger government we have the less jobs there will be.

Personal responsibility. Get training. Work and learn on the job. Work two jobs. Stay sober. Go to school. Don't make mistakes like knocking up your gf at 15. Be responsible for your life and take it seriously and above all else..

do not under any circumstance label yourself as a victim. Yeah the government says you can have disability payments because of this or that. Don't do it. Live life on your terms, not the governments because the government is NEVER there to help you. Not once. Not ever.

Its there to control you.

You do not have the accept the responsibility of freedom. You can get your government check but young men and women died so your life, is on you. That's freedom, the acceptance of more personal responsibility.

Ever wonder how the liberal agenda became so popular? Not because it is factual or because it does anything good. Its because people do not want to take the responsibility for their own actions. They want to blame someone else. They want to be a victim. They want the easy way out.

I have done the easy way....its not easy. Its very destructive and destroys what makes life good and real.

Other centered.

Sacrifice.

Good old american PAIN. Yes, I said pain. A good life...HURTS. You grow up, accept it and know...good..is hard...

and the best reward that ever comes in this life.

Too bad that does not sell today. Pretty sad really.

 

[Anonimous]

getting an early start on his campaign threats, isn't he?

 

[letti]

You are mistaken. The answer is not the government, forcing higher wages, or benefits.

The answer is jobs and the bigger government we have the less jobs there will be.

Personal responsibility. Get training. Work and learn on the job. Work two jobs. Stay sober. Go to school. Don't make mistakes like knocking up your gf at 15. Be responsible for your life and take it seriously and above all else..

do not under any circumstance label yourself as a victim. Yeah the government says you can have disability payments because of this or that. Don't do it. Live life on your terms, not the governments because the government is NEVER there to help you. Not once. Not ever.

Its there to control you.

You do not have the accept the responsibility of freedom. You can get your government check but young men and women died so your life, is on you. That's freedom, the acceptance of more personal responsibility.

Ever wonder how the liberal agenda became so popular? Not because it is factual or because it does anything good. Its because people do not want to take the responsibility for their own actions. They want to blame someone else. They want to be a victim. They want the easy way out.

I have done the easy way....its not easy. Its very destructive and destroys what makes life good and real.

Other centered.

Sacrifice.

Good old american PAIN. Yes, I said pain. A good life...HURTS. You grow up, accept it and know...good..is hard...

and the best reward that ever comes in this life.

Too bad that does not sell today. Pretty sad really.

For,the vast majority of people all this would work,but in some cases I see no way it could work,the severely handicap and those suffering severe illness.I have a friend that has one lung not even functioning and the other is about to quit she can barely even walk on full time oxygen,what should we do in extreme case?.I know some people so mentally ill IDK,I used to volunteer at the psych center i can hardly picture some of them working.Exceptions to the rule do exist.I guess the throw away people could be just that.Struggling,and from that a whole lot can be achieved but, not in all cases.The sad part is those cases where achievement is never possible.I have worked with some very ill people. I know could not work .

 

[Fenner]

As the original poster asked for any other ideas, I would like to add, if you need to search out your local food pantries and use them. Also the Salvation Army has programs that will help people get food.

 

[iamsoandso]

the shame is not on the heads of the poor(that is to god),,,Jesus said john 21;15-17,,,do you love me? "feed my sheep",,,in john 18;36 Jesus explains ,,,"then would my servants fight",that is men say "the kingdom of god on earth",with various definitions of meaning,,,never taking note of this one kingdom Jesus spoke of.

in this other kingdom "the united states",,,their are some based on income who qualify for assistance. that is the heads of the government did not attend to the business of taking care of it's economics from the poor class to the wealthy and so as we know the shame in on the head of the leaders.

but feed the sheep,at the gates of every city is the poor,some are fed at the hands of those who love Christ. for every one who gives to the poor there are ninety nine who mock and cast the black stone,there is only the yes stone or the no stone.

 

[Ritter]

Technically it's not a reduction, it's a returning to normal benefits. The huge pork package passed years ago under the guise of "stimulus" included a temporary increase in food stamps benefits. IMO it was the buying of votes to insure a certain someone got re-elected.

You gotta admit he's a master tactician. Increased food benefits expire in his second term, the fiasco of a healthcare program (you know, the one that a lot of people though was going to give them free healthcare) kicks in during his second term................

CO could use more people like you, my friend.

 

[Oncefallen]

CO could use more people like you, my friend.

Most of Colorado is relatively conservative (landmass) unfortunately the population center which is a miniscule percentage of the landmass tends towards the left. Basically the Denver metropolitan area runs the state which is why there is growing support in some counties to seceed and create a 51st state. Rural counties are getting tired of Denver cramming laws down their necks that albeit might be a good idea in a metro area are ridiculous in rural counties.

 

[SonInMe]

For,the vast majority of people all this would work,but in some cases I see no way it could work,the severely handicap and those suffering severe illness.I have a friend that has one lung not even functioning and the other is about to quit she can barely even walk on full time oxygen,what should we do in extreme case?.I know some people so mentally ill IDK,I used to volunteer at the psych center i can hardly picture some of them working.Exceptions to the rule do exist.I guess the throw away people could be just that.Struggling,and from that a whole lot can be achieved but, not in all cases.The sad part is those cases where achievement is never possible.I have worked with some very ill people. I know could not work .

This happens a lot when charity is talked about. The inclusion of the handicapped as if ANYONE would deny benefits to truly needy people.

There are three biblical targets for charity...the widows, orphans and the infirm.

No christian would EVER suggest the handicapped and needy should not be helped. The problem is, the government has defined almost everyone as handicapped!.

I worked in a stone quarry for ten years. I would get laid off every winter and collect unemployment. When I was getting unemployment ( something your employer pays for ) I could get food stamps and HEAP ( heating assistance ) and WIC and I made 40,000 a year ( late 80's ).

That's crazy.

There are 40 million americans on food stamps. There is NO way there are 40 million americans starving today. None.

 

[letti]

This happens a lot when charity is talked about. The inclusion of the handicapped as if ANYONE would deny benefits to truly needy people.

There are three biblical targets for charity...the widows, orphans and the infirm.

No christian would EVER suggest the handicapped and needy should not be helped. The problem is, the government has defined almost everyone as handicapped!.

I worked in a stone quarry for ten years. I would get laid off every winter and collect unemployment. When I was getting unemployment ( something your employer pays for ) I could get food stamps and HEAP ( heating assistance ) and WIC and I made 40,000 a year ( late 80's ).

That's crazy.

There are 40 million americans on food stamps. There is NO way there are 40 million americans starving today. None.

I understand what you are saying not all need this help.Some have alternatives,of course some people abuse this system,I am sure quite a few actually.

 

[SonInMe]

At this point I am not worried as much about those who abuse the system as I am about those who think they are entitled to it.

 

[letti]

Well,there will come a day all will have to kiss it goodbye sick, disabled,abusing it or feeling entitled,if you are that ill then IDK,what will happen.

 

[JesusChica1991]

I think this all depends on your worldview. People who tend to have a negative view towards assistance tend to be very independent minded...whereas, people who need assistance come from backgrounds where independence is limited and they have no choice but to depend on others in order to survive. The people who are actually getting government benefits have to prove they are seeking for a job on a frequent basis. But sadly, those who do have a job eventually won't have enough money to care for themselves. Are there people who take advantage of the system? Absolutely. But there are people who do need it. I don't see reducing the amount as the solution to the problem. That's just similar to trying to cover it up with a bandaid. The root of the problem is deeper than that. The needs of the poor do need to be addressed. Most of them are poor to no fault of their own. I think the situation would be improved if the church would build up a stronger network of food pantries. Personally, I don't believe the government should be trying to play the role of the church in helping people. They've done a poor job with it altogether. But if the church isn't willing to help them, then the government will obviously "fill in the need" and exploit it. Government aid for welfare like TANF and SNAP and WIC are things that are necessary a lot of times. I don't like the idea of those being cut when there are many other things are government is funding that shouldn't even be happening: funding other countries' wars with which we are not involved with, science programs that are not issues of life and death. There is plenty of it that can be reduced without cutting out aid.

 

[letti]

This is something that really bothers me to even discuss I don't think I know enough,to be judging it all.

 

[doll]

Yea well they took 20 $ off mine, it really sti9nks because we rely on it and it's hard enough to plan healthy meals. I am gluten allergic and so is my baby so we can't live off cheap bread meals like sandwiches.

 

[Elizabeth619]

Yea well they took 20 $ off mine, it really sti9nks because we rely on it and it's hard enough to plan healthy meals. I am gluten allergic and so is my baby so we can't live off cheap bread meals like sandwiches.

You mentioned you have a baby. Can you not receive WIC?

 

[jimmydiggs]

Yea well they took 20 $ off mine, it really sti9nks because we rely on it and it's hard enough to plan healthy meals. I am gluten allergic and so is my baby so we can't live off cheap bread meals like sandwiches.

Do you have a local church you can receive assistance from?