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No woman asks to be raped. Ever. Period.
I will agree that women need to be cautious to avoid increasing their chances of sexual assault. Case in point, I was the best in my class where I got my concealed handgun license. But we should spend more time teaching males not to rape instead of putting all that responsibility on the potential victims.
I will agree that women need to be cautious to avoid increasing their chances of sexual assault. Case in point, I was the best in my class where I got my concealed handgun license. But we should spend more time teaching males not to rape instead of putting all that responsibility on the potential victims.
Your incredibly disrespectful response makes so little sense that I'm unsure how to respond, but I'm thinking you weren't burdened with an overabundance of schooling. Suffice it to say that had any of my male relatives hear you say that to me, you would have a 6-8 week recovery time.
Not that it's any of your business, I do not go to clubs, wear skanky clothes, or go to seedy areas of town alone. I DID say that women need to be cautious. Your insinuation that I would be whoring around town before being abducted and assaulted is offensive and down-right evil.
Not that it's any of your business, I do not go to clubs, wear skanky clothes, or go to seedy areas of town alone. I DID say that women need to be cautious. Your insinuation that I would be whoring around town before being abducted and assaulted is offensive and down-right evil.
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Bad things happen to good people, that is a fact. I am so sorry for what happened , if I could ring their neck I would. But Girl get over it and sooner the better. do not let the devil bind you to it. The cross has set you free, and you are just as pure as the driven snow in the eyes of God and thats the the only eyes you need to be concerned with. Start praying and guess what God will give you a man that loves and cares for you. You are not the only one, many have walked in your shoes. Man up.
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I just wanted to add that all to often, women will say thing's like, I cannot submit to my husband because He does not sumbit to the Lord, or we look at our husband and find fault with his leadership, and for this reason refuse to be submissive. Are we then holding him accountable?, are we then being his judge?, are we only agreeing to be submissive if it is done in a way we consider to be according to the Lord's word?
Submission is the most freeing experience, any women could ever have, it is total freedom in Christ. It is believing in your heavenly daddy to take care of you, and your needs phyically and spiritually, he needs to sort your husband out not you.
So this attitude women sometimes have of, Oh no I can't submit my husband doesn;t do xxxxx right, so when he gets it right I will do the right thing, doesn't work ladies.
The Lord Jesus asked the Father if this cup could pass from His lips, because He really didn't want to be sacrificed, but added Your Will not mine be done. That should be our attitude to submission.
Submission is the most freeing experience, any women could ever have, it is total freedom in Christ. It is believing in your heavenly daddy to take care of you, and your needs phyically and spiritually, he needs to sort your husband out not you.
So this attitude women sometimes have of, Oh no I can't submit my husband doesn;t do xxxxx right, so when he gets it right I will do the right thing, doesn't work ladies.
The Lord Jesus asked the Father if this cup could pass from His lips, because He really didn't want to be sacrificed, but added Your Will not mine be done. That should be our attitude to submission.
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Is it not for FREEDOM that Christ has set us free? Putting people in bondage through their own insecurities is not of God, its totally the opposite. I want to see men become ALL God created them to be and likewise for women. BOTH walking in that amazing freedom of peace, security and love ready to build the kingdom wherever we go. Isnt God so amazing!
That depends. Wifely submission (and submission to authority in general) CAN be freeing and freedom in the Christ. However, submitting to an abusive authority who isn't submitted to Christ is not freeing; it's oppressive and full of bondage.
The Bible tells us that Nabal was a fool and describes him as a poor leader. Had his servants and his wife submitted to his command, King David and his men would have killed EVERY male in Nabal's household. In this example, submitting to an abusive, ungodly authority (whether it was the authority of a husband or boss) was not freeing, it was deadly. (1 Sam. chap. 25)
When the righteous thrive, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule, the people groan. Pro 29:2
When the godly succeed, everyone is glad. When the wicked take charge, people go into hiding. Pro 28:12
Like a roaring lion or a charging bear is a wicked ruler over a helpless people. Pro 28:15
Wifely submission (and submission to authority in general) CAN be freeing and freedom in Christ, but wifely submission (and submission in general) to an abusive, ungodly authority is bondage.
The Bible tells us that Nabal was a fool and describes him as a poor leader. Had his servants and his wife submitted to his command, King David and his men would have killed EVERY male in Nabal's household. In this example, submitting to an abusive, ungodly authority (whether it was the authority of a husband or boss) was not freeing, it was deadly. (1 Sam. chap. 25)
When the righteous thrive, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule, the people groan. Pro 29:2
When the godly succeed, everyone is glad. When the wicked take charge, people go into hiding. Pro 28:12
Like a roaring lion or a charging bear is a wicked ruler over a helpless people. Pro 28:15
Wifely submission (and submission to authority in general) CAN be freeing and freedom in Christ, but wifely submission (and submission in general) to an abusive, ungodly authority is bondage.
Yes love is about what is deemed right. You have defined this correctly for which I congratulate your success. The question is, can you apply the biblical principal of love in a novel sitation? Such nouveau would indeed be your treatment of your sister in Christ, Twofeet. You also, foolishly I might add, brought to the fore 'the fair-minded individual test. Remember, you employed the fair-minded individual test, not I. Let us deal with this in any event. The fair-minded person is likely to be the same standard as the 'reasonable Christian. This hypothetical person is not especially wise or intelligent but is still likely to know when events of haughtiness occur. The alternative, although at a slightly higher standard, is the reasonably intelligent Christian standard. The intelligent Christian is equipped to observe the good intent behind Twofeet's representation. Your observation however ought to be matched with these standards to see if there is any relationship with your hypothesis. On the facts you made opinion for the fair-minded individual/ or the reasonable Christian. The problem with this is that you're not likely to meet any of these standards as it takes a fair-minded individual to know when something is reasonable and when it is not. You also uttered something about politics, popularity and democracy, all of which have no direct relevance so will not be considered.
If you don't want to debate matters it would be wise for you to stop making provocative statements, especially where the reasonable Christian would be on alert to the fact that the central theme would have been deviated away from the main subject area, but more importantly would especially be minded as to the effect that it would have on this thread's writer, ie Twofeet.
If you don't want to debate matters it would be wise for you to stop making provocative statements, especially where the reasonable Christian would be on alert to the fact that the central theme would have been deviated away from the main subject area, but more importantly would especially be minded as to the effect that it would have on this thread's writer, ie Twofeet.
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Love is liberating, it even feels wonderful, but when we put on boundaries, thats where the fights start. You know its like every human being loves their freedom, to finally breathe, when you try take that from them smh.. You in for a butt whooping lol..
Only the Lord knows how to deal with His children, this i have learnt, and i have learnt to respect HIS awesome ways, ai so many different kinds of personalities out there, different backgrounds, but all in all THE LORD deals with every one with such distinction leaves us in AWE....
Only the Lord knows how to deal with His children, this i have learnt, and i have learnt to respect HIS awesome ways, ai so many different kinds of personalities out there, different backgrounds, but all in all THE LORD deals with every one with such distinction leaves us in AWE....
Are you serious right now? I'm not trying to speak for Misty77, but this response just made my blood boil and I have never even been a victim of sexual assault. Do you know know the emotional, physical, mental, and even at times spiritual, tolls rape and sexual assault has on someone? That one act can often have years and years of effect. It is NOT something that a woman can just snap her fingers and say "Okay, this no longer affects me! Yay!" Should we go to God in everything and not hold on to things? Yes. But please don't assume that being sexually assaulted is something you can just "get over" and "man up" about.
If Christian men abuse women this way and don't repent they will burn in hell just like those sinners in the world. Don't believe this? Choose another faith! Go to the police if anyone else experiences especially sex abuse. If it is more than one man abusing, the police should look into. Stick together, the more evidence there is, the more likely it will result in a conviction. 'Just pray about'...if this is true what they said, get out that church. If you know abuse is occuring do not go to that church. Such a church is more a satanist building than it is Christ's church.
Hmm, well what the woman consents to and enjoys is something rather different. Ok, on this embarrassing note, some ladies apparently enjoy anal sex as do their partners. This relates to a mutual understanding. Whether biblical or not this practice goes on behind closed doors. Some couples are just kinky, shall we say.
But forcing a woman to enage in anal sex, this in my view is no different than rape.
But forcing a woman to enage in anal sex, this in my view is no different than rape.
How dare some of you women use rape and domestic violence as an excuse to not submit to your Christian husband! That is ignorance. If we did that to womenit would sound like (don't let your wife go shopping; you know how women have affairs.) Or (don't let her go to work; that's how they find another man.) I am ashamed to see such blanket views of men as though a Christian man or woman is the same as the bar crowd.
Um, Christians aren't supposed to submit to evil people (rapists, abusers, etc.). I apologize that I am unable to comprehend the rest of your post.
Let me break it down a little:
All men and women sin.
Some men and women abuse/torture/rape/hurt other people.
No man or woman has to stay where they are being hurt.
Some men and women know how to submit to the Lord's plan for their lives, for the most part. That's good.
All men and women are commanded to love God and love each other.
Let me break it down a little:
All men and women sin.
Some men and women abuse/torture/rape/hurt other people.
No man or woman has to stay where they are being hurt.
Some men and women know how to submit to the Lord's plan for their lives, for the most part. That's good.
All men and women are commanded to love God and love each other.
I am not free from Christ; I am His slave. You teach freedom from authority. I would not trade my bondage to Christ for a million women who could render a reason. Till the day I die I will believe His words, not yours. I am the head of my family because Christ is my head. Even when she does not obey I interceed for her and love her. When you marry a non Christian you have no one to speak to Christ for you.