The IMF Wants YOUR Money

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AgeofKnowledge

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^ It's a good thing. Instead of reading MR's nonsense, I'm using that time to do something productive instead :). I may give him another chance to show he's grow up in about eleven months. Until then, I'm not going to subject myself to MR's juvenile inane blather. Got to go. Peace everyone.
 
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^ It's a good thing. Instead of reading MR's nonsense, I'm using that time to do something productive instead :). I may give him another chance in eleven months. Maybe. Got to go. Peace everyone.
^ I like it too. Saves me debating someone with a... conflict of interest, shall we say. :D
 

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Post after post of nonsense mixed in with some truth all disjointed and strung out over pages. It's either deliberate or your thinking is that disjointed. Either way, it's unacceptable. No coherent, competent presentation evidenced by scholarly sources. Just a lot of blather with a few nuggets tossed in to "prove" that which isn't even true.

Simple minded people think like this: The UN rules all governments in the world. The IMF rules all central banking for all nations in the world. Etc... FALSE. Not currently they don't.

What you have are nations formed into blocs of power that compete with each other to progress various agendas which contradict each other. Sometimes compromise occurs and sometimes it doesn't. Some of them want what you fear and others certainly do not. There is tension and struggle and scope creep.

I wish it were all black or all white. It would be so easy then. But it's not. It's grey. You call it what it isn't (e.g. all black) and I call it what it is (e.g. grey).

You say the IMF controls the central banks of the nations of the world. I've shown you that currently they certainly do not. And what do I get in return, you invoke 911 to "prove" the IMF controls the world's central banks. Ridiculous.

I might as well go play a video game. It makes more sense than pages and pages of fool's gold with a few nuggets thrown in to prove it's a gold mine. LOL.

But that's where you're at intellectually and the same reason you turn on me and accuse me of working for the government in some kind of a uber secret NSA conspiracy ROFL! I WISH I had that paycheck.

No. The only government job I've ever held in my entire life was one tour in the military. That's all. But I understand, you NEED a conspiracy even for that to help you make sense out of the world because you're simple people that think in terms of black and white instead of as they are in reality.

Like I said, it's grey. There actually are bad actors and selfish elitists. There actually are global organizations growing in power exceeding their desirable scopes. There actually are forty-seven public corporations at the heart of most of the industrialized world's transactions (though there is heavy turnover at the top within about forty two of them).

We must all be vigilant and constantly work for reform: especially in these times when reform is desperately needed and very desirable to get much better results like we once did but no longer do.

And that reform can mean the dissolution of various bodies. BUT, and I've not seen the slightest evidence that you're smart enough to understand this, the need for good communications is of paramount importance between nations to work toward avoiding serious conflict.

If the past is any indication, your brains will take that last statement and put it in black or white terms. You'll say, "there's already conflict!" Well yes, but we've managed to avoid a lot more conflict by communicating with each other.

For example, the space between WWI and WWII was only twenty-one years. The space between WWII and WWIII is at least sixty-eight years and growing by the day. Hopefully, it will never happen. But if you dissolve all means of nations communicating with each other: it may commence in short order.

I'm on your side which is really our side: all of ours. But you're not smart enough to figure that out either. There can only be two sides in the mind of simple minded people: us versus them. EOM.
the us vs them...would that be you versus Democrats:confused:

i'll say it one more time slowly for ya.

the IMF BIS et al are the collection agencies for the banks.
the banks are privately owned.
there is a revolving door between govt and banking/corporations. this is commonly known as FASCISM.
the banks control the govt; the govt (which is now a corporation) controls the people....< once you've let it happen.

which you did.
by buying into the left-right puppet show.
the internal police forces globally are one big machine; all rolled out at the same time for the same purpose.

now that you've agreed to austerity....when you find out that it means starvation, they're going to need the SWAT.
and you said OKAY.

here:

http://www.amazon.ca/Anglo-American-Establishment-Quigley-Carroll/dp/0945001010

here:

http://www.amazon.ca/Tragedy-Hope-History-World-Time/dp/094500110X/ref=pd_sim_b_1

here:

http://www.amazon.ca/Propaganda-Edward-Bernays/dp/0970312598/ref=pd_sim_b_5

here:

http://www.amazon.ca/Million-Years-Charles-Galton-Darwin/dp/0837168767

and here:

http://www.amazon.ca/The-Grand-Chessboard-Geostrategic-Imperatives/dp/0465027261/ref=pd_sim_b_2

...

see you in 6 months.
 
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Lolol @ zone. "See you in 6 months." Too funny. You know I could never live without you for that long. Love you.

Anyways, why are you bringing up Zbigniew Brzezinski? That guy's all over the chessboard. He was a Democrat, then a Republican, then a Democrat, now I don't even know what he is anymore.

What's his thesis in that book you posted at Amazon?
 

zone

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Lolol @ zone. "See you in 6 months." Too funny. You know I could never live without you for that long. Love you.

Anyways, why are you bringing up Zbigniew Brzezinski? That guy's all over the chessboard. He was a Democrat, then a Republican, then a Democrat, now I don't even know what he is anymore.

What's his thesis in that book you posted at Amazon?
coincidentally posted yesterday:

Guns and Butter - October 23, 2013 at 1:00pm

"Dress Rehearsal for Government Privatization" with Michel Chossudovsky

Archives for Guns and Butter | KPFA 94.1 FM Berkeley: Listener Sponsored Free Speech Radio

Michel's excellent overview of everything we've talked about.
yay...now i can just keep posting this link til you listen - and follow up.

....

Brzezinski?
hegemony. at any cost. read it.

this observation: "a Democrat, then a Republican, then a Democrat, now I don't even know what he is anymore." should tell you what you need to know about him.

it also illustrates your left-right-left-oops there ain't nothin' else worldview:)
globalists just pretend to have national affiliations.
 
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Post after post of nonsense mixed in with some truth all disjointed and strung out over pages. It's either deliberate or your thinking is that disjointed. Either way, it's unacceptable. No coherent, competent presentation evidenced by scholarly sources. Just a lot of blather with a few nuggets tossed in to "prove" that which isn't even true.

Scholarly sources? How about the fact that some things ought to be so blatantly obvious except, apparently, for the text-book thinker. Alternatively a student, albeit pays an absurd amount of money to an organisation for a rather expensive piece of paper, a degree for the privilege, is called intelligent if he gets an A. [I would be more interested in how difficult the subject is, next how close the scores are to the average.] Why, well because the student has researched the scholar and used his ideas in his written paper. If it is not in black and white and the source is not a 'scholar', does this mean that it is not true. Ermm..that will be a resounding no. Why, you may ask. Well, smart people don't want to get caught, for some reason. I can't really see academic sources publishing conspiracy literature. Do as you're told, obey society, accept your function and your station or status, but never question the system in itself.

Simple minded people think like this: The UN rules all governments in the world. The IMF rules all central banking for all nations in the world. Etc... FALSE. Not currently they don't.

What you have are nations formed into blocs of power that compete with each other to progress various agendas which contradict each other. Sometimes compromise occurs and sometimes it doesn't. Some of them want what you fear and others certainly do not. There is tension and struggle and scope creep.

I wish it were all black or all white. It would be so easy then. But it's not. It's grey. You call it what it isn't (e.g. all black) and I call it what it is (e.g. grey).

You say the IMF controls the central banks of the nations of the world. I've shown you that currently they certainly do not. And what do I get in return, you invoke 911 to "prove" the IMF controls the world's central banks. Ridiculous.

I might as well go play a video game. It makes more sense than pages and pages of fool's gold with a few nuggets thrown in to prove it's a gold mine. LOL.

But that's where you're at intellectually and the same reason you turn on me and accuse me of working for the government in some kind of a uber secret NSA conspiracy ROFL! I WISH I had that paycheck.

No. The only government job I've ever held in my entire life was one tour in the military. That's all. But I understand, you NEED a conspiracy even for that to help you make sense out of the world because you're simple people that think in terms of black and white instead of as they are in reality.

Like I said, it's grey. There actually are bad actors and selfish elitists. There actually are global organizations growing in power exceeding their desirable scopes. There actually are forty-seven public corporations at the heart of most of the industrialized world's transactions (though there is heavy turnover at the top within about forty two of them).

We must all be vigilant and constantly work for reform: especially in these times when reform is desperately needed and very desirable to get much better results like we once did but no longer do.

And that reform can mean the dissolution of various bodies. BUT, and I've not seen the slightest evidence that you're smart enough to understand this, the need for good communications is of paramount importance between nations to work toward avoiding serious conflict.

If the past is any indication, your brains will take that last statement and put it in black or white terms. You'll say, "there's already conflict!" Well yes, but we've managed to avoid a lot more conflict by communicating with each other.

For example, the space between WWI and WWII was only twenty-one years. The space between WWII and WWIII is at least sixty-eight years and growing by the day. Hopefully, it will never happen. But if you dissolve all means of nations communicating with each other: it may commence in short order.

I'm on your side which is really our side: all of ours. But you're not smart enough to figure that out either. There can only be two sides in the mind of simple minded people: us versus them. EOM.

OoK, to whom is this blathering referenced to?
 
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Zone, have you noticed how AoG avoids the thing am saying but almost picks on you?
 
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I never really noticed you until just recently. You only have 32 posts and you're acting like we should know each other. We don't know each other. I have no idea what your views are yet.

But since you want some, I got some all day for you... lolol j/k.

Ok seriously, I LOVE zone. We align far more than we don't align. We're like siblings. I'm poking her tender areas and she's poking mine. It's iron on iron sharpening each other up.

I've already made one correction and expanded my horizon a bit. I was getting too myopic about one of the two "toys." Thanks for that zone. :)

Zone, have you noticed how AoG avoids the thing am saying but almost picks on you?
 
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I LOVE zone. We align far more than we don't align. We're like siblings.


{Before going on to say the following, the alternative is that it is a superficial Americanism to deride each other, to make regular reference to lack of intelligence or understanding. May be it is a culture thing and therein the superficial mind of its observer. Anyway, here we go!}

AoG, you say you love Zone and that you're like siblings. Definitions are important for appreciating the context of ideas. Normally,aA Christian who loves another does not especially berate his sister in Christ either by his tone or his communication when in dialogue with her. Quite simply, the reasonable Christian ought not to make ad hominem commentary towards another Christian, in particular he shall not insult another, or infer a vertical relationship where the other is regarded below. I could also make a different inference but i choose not to at this point.

Factually
AoG, you often use words or terms which are derogatory in nature which include, but from my previous observations are not likely to be limited in the future to, a 'simple minded person', who is unable to understand. The next details deal with actual evidence. Just on one post alone, you contribute the following concerning Zone's intelligence/ and or her ability to reason. They are clearly insulting in nature; you infer a vertical relationship with you at the top and Zone very much below you:


"Simple minded people
; where you're at intellectually; I've not seen the slightest evidence that you're smart enough to understand; But you're not smart enough to figure that out either; simple minded people."

In short, Aog I believe you have a very strange view of love for Zone. You are essentially saying Zone is dumb. The main problem with your idea it, superficially, rests on, and is subjective to, your own limited prerequisites applied to those things which YOU commensurate with intelligence. However, you allude that you have a high IQ - perhaps you do. In my view, others such as Zone who challenge the social norm, that is, the everyday, familiar system, are far from dumb. My idea of smart incidentally is someone who is equipped to think outside the box of what is normal.
 
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No thank you for the more than 300 words of off topic ad hominem. I have an idea, put me on ignore UK13. That way I won't have you clogging up my threads with your lengthy ad hominem blather. Thanking you in advance.
 
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Post after post of nonsense mixed in with some truth all disjointed and strung out over pages. It's either deliberate or your thinking is that disjointed. Either way, it's unacceptable. No coherent, competent presentation evidenced by scholarly sources. Just a lot of blather with a few nuggets tossed in to "prove" that which isn't even true.

Simple minded people think like this: The UN rules all governments in the world. The IMF rules all central banking for all nations in the world. Etc... FALSE. Not currently they don't.

What you have are nations formed into blocs of power that compete with each other to progress various agendas which contradict each other. Sometimes compromise occurs and sometimes it doesn't. Some of them want what you fear and others certainly do not. There is tension and struggle and scope creep.

I wish it were all black or all white. It would be so easy then. But it's not. It's grey. You call it what it isn't (e.g. all black) and I call it what it is (e.g. grey).

You say the IMF controls the central banks of the nations of the world. I've shown you that currently they certainly do not. And what do I get in return, you invoke 911 to "prove" the IMF controls the world's central banks. Ridiculous.

I might as well go play a video game. It makes more sense than pages and pages of fool's gold with a few nuggets thrown in to prove it's a gold mine. LOL.

But that's where you're at intellectually and the same reason you turn on me and accuse me of working for the government in some kind of a uber secret NSA conspiracy ROFL! I WISH I had that paycheck.

No. The only government job I've ever held in my entire life was one tour in the military. That's all. But I understand, you NEED a conspiracy even for that to help you make sense out of the world because you're simple people that think in terms of black and white instead of as they are in reality.

Like I said, it's grey. There actually are bad actors and selfish elitists. There actually are global organizations growing in power exceeding their desirable scopes. There actually are forty-seven public corporations at the heart of most of the industrialized world's transactions (though there is heavy turnover at the top within about forty two of them).

We must all be vigilant and constantly work for reform: especially in these times when reform is desperately needed and very desirable to get much better results like we once did but no longer do.

And that reform can mean the dissolution of various bodies. BUT, and I've not seen the slightest evidence that you're smart enough to understand this, the need for good communications is of paramount importance between nations to work toward avoiding serious conflict.

If the past is any indication, your brains will take that last statement and put it in black or white terms. You'll say, "there's already conflict!" Well yes, but we've managed to avoid a lot more conflict by communicating with each other.

For example, the space between WWI and WWII was only twenty-one years. The space between WWII and WWIII is at least sixty-eight years and growing by the day. Hopefully, it will never happen. But if you dissolve all means of nations communicating with each other: it may commence in short order.

I'm on your side which is really our side: all of ours. But you're not smart enough to figure that out either. There can only be two sides in the mind of simple minded people: us versus them. EOM.
Please, Aog, if you make such reference intending it to or for a particular person, it is only right for practical purposes that you also use his or her name. You omit names quite oftern, actually. It is unhelpful when you do not use names of reference, notwithstanding very confusing. I could say it is not very academic but I agree there should be less formality wherein the idea is to engage, challenge and critique conspiratorial representations. I, for one, do not care if a person were to use half or part sentences save I am able to comprehend the point being said. He or she may also use bullet point information. The idea or critique of another idea is more important than how the information is framed, in my view
 
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Post after post of nonsense mixed in with some truth all disjointed and strung out over pages. It's either deliberate or your thinking is that disjointed. Either way, it's unacceptable. No coherent, competent presentation evidenced by scholarly sources. Just a lot of blather with a few nuggets tossed in to "prove" that which isn't even true.
Scholarly sources? How about the fact that some things ought to be so blatantly obvious ie prima facie except, apparently, for the text-book thinker. Alternatively a student, albeit pays an absurd amount of money to an organisation for a rather expensive piece of paper, a degree for the privilege, is called intelligent if he gets an A.

{I would be more interested in how difficult the subject is, next how close the scores are to the average. This is clearly a matter of economics as the country concerned, the USA, employs or is reliant on a knowledge economy especially a country based on a 300 million population; or .3 billion relative to the world as a whole. For this reason there is qualification inflation where the degree almost becomes prerequisite for an employer, and the Masters becomes beneficial albeit not the exceptions they once were. i could have got into over-valued education systems also, especially college.}

University academics drive into us the only evidence comes from the established academic expert. So who are the experts likely to be, in law A V Dicey etc, in economics and business: Milton, Marx and Weber possibly, and of cours modern proponents who share the same ideas. The accademic arguments: the student has researched the scholar and used his ideas in his written paper but he cannot use other sources, as they're apparently not credible. If it is not in black and white and the source is not a 'scholar', does this mean that it is not true. Ermm..that will be a resounding no. Why, you may ask. Well, smart people who employ false flag operations don't want to get caught, for some reason. I can't really see academic sources publishing conspiracy literature. Do as you're told, obey society, accept your function and your station or status, but never question the system in itself.
 
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No thank you for the more than 300 words of off topic ad hominem. I have an idea, put me on ignore UK13. That way I won't have you clogging up my threads with your lengthy ad hominem blather. Thanking you in advance.
I don't resort to an emotional response, i either challenge or not. I don't put people on ignore just because they have said something I don't agree with!!! My point above was more than adequately made, i hope you will consider this; as an idea in itself may be controversial but it does not mean its writer or author, or 3rd party accounts of it, are wrong or inferior, or the person his or her self is lacking in intelligence. I could bore you with concepts of intelligence, brain performance, but this is not the forum. I can stick to a topic like glue; i can answer the question pro rata, too.
 
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No thank you for the more than 300 words of off topic ad hominem. I have an idea, put me on ignore UK13. That way I won't have you clogging up my threads with your lengthy ad hominem blather. Thanking you in advance.
Well be grateful it wasn't a 20,000 word contribution.
 
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UK13, post after post of off topic ad hominem and screed completely unrelated to the IMF. Your posts read as if a 13 year old had written them. For this reason, I am putting you on ignore. You need time to grow up and I'm not going to read screed after screed of off topic emotionally driven nonsense which appears to be all you have to offer at this time. Good luck toward that endeavor. *ignore*.
 
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zone, interesting radio show: Guns and Butter - October 2, 2013 at 1:00pm | KPFA 94.1 FM Berkeley: Listener Sponsored Free Speech Radio

BUT it completely ignores the expansionary benefits that resulted, refuses to acknowledge that fractional reserve banking and government borrowing can be disconnected so that fractional reserve lending occurs only in the private sector, ignorantly ignores that it can be reformed, etc...

For example, we could impose equity requirements on all lending. Bank owners could own twenty or thirty percent of every loan made. This would make bank owners, who now have personal liability for loans made, far more accountable. Policies and managers can be implemented and trained accordingly.

Equity requirements based on the actual source of funds creates shorter term loans with larger down payments. With banks and bank owners financially accountable for bad loans, the system becomes stable. The expansionary benefit is maintained while the system is reformed.

Of course, until government deficit spending is reformed; the eventual risk of currency devaluation increases in relationship to the national debt.

So we really need a balanced budget and a reformed fractional reserve banking system. If you did these two things, great pressure would come to bear on a number of other areas in dire need of reform themselves with a special focus on trade.

But that's not what your people advocate, of course. Your Austrian economists would from their podium of distorted economic theology rapidly destroy the U.S. economy plunging the U.S. into a sweeping long-term Great Depression.

As Milton Friedman stated, "there is no Austrian economics: only good economics, and bad economics," to which I would append: "Austrians do some good economics, but most good economics is not Austrian."
 
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UK13, post after post of off topic ad hominem and screed completely unrelated to the IMF. Your posts read as if a 13 year old had written them. For this reason, I am putting you on ignore. You need time to grow up and I'm not going to read screed after screed of off topic emotionally driven nonsense which appears to be all you have to offer at this time. Good luck toward that endeavor. *ignore*.
AoG....is like a little child, he hasn't got the brains to reason..so he just ignores.....pathetic!
 

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So we really need a balanced budget and a reformed fractional reserve banking system. If you did these two things, great pressure would come to bear on a number of other areas in dire need of reform themselves with a special focus on trade.
[video=youtube;RxPZh4AnWyk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxPZh4AnWyk[/video]
 
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What's Susan Boyle have to do with this discussion zone??