Why are we allowing our government to trample our Christian values?

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My friend, before you get on the patriotic bandwagon, perhaps you ought to investigate who owns the voting machine companies.... just sayin'

Where exactly are you "investigating"? I'm guessing you didn't link to a source because you either didn't have one or it was made up.

Here's a snopes.com investigation into this same accusation made against Romney (it turned up false). But if you read the article, you'll find a more important fact -- voter fraud is often caught where it exists. Exit polling is typically checked against the results of a county's tallied votes and where there is a statistically significant difference (usually by more than 5%), an audit is conducted. People who believe in mass voter fraud are people who have no idea how votes are counted, checked, and reported. If there were really a suspicious result, you'd find it in a respectable news source like Reuters rather than a viral e-mail or conspiracy website.
 
Now that this thread has been hijacked to a political avenue away from the general failure of the church to keep our society in the God-fearing state of mind the founding fathers laid out and intended for us, an observation can be made.

I wish it hadn't been, either, because the subject at hand is much more important. Christians have a victim complex, which (as you cited) derives back to the bible itself. In a country like the USA where 73% of the population is Christian, there's this silly belief that the majority is getting bullied by the minority. It may happen intellectually and rationally (and I personally take great pleasure in doing so), but it doesn't happen on a political basis. Atheists are often discriminated against -- such as in this news story made public a mere 3 hours ago.

Here's an even more relevant example of Christianity getting special treatment at the expense of atheism -- one at Fort Bragg, the base in question in the original post on this thread. Atheists hosted a concert called Rock Beyond Belief in response to Christian concerts at that same base. This concert was originally denied on various grounds that were unfair, mainly because those same things could have been said about the Christian concert but weren't. I'm not here to say that atheism is "under fire" or being treated unfairly, because the concert did eventually happen... what I am saying is that Christianity is seeing victimization where it doesn't exist and is equally blind to the victims of its own discrimination.
 
The question is not what ethnic groups are at odds with each other, the question is what we as Christians see right before our very eyes that is happening to our country. Knowing that God blesses obedience to His will, and judges those who do not do His will, is it time that we look at ourselves, and search for where we, as a Christians nation, have failed through the generations? It is obvious that we have somewhere, and I think it important to discuss that, and define the cause that includes us all.

Luke 12:54-57 (KJV)
[SUP]54 [/SUP]And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is.
[SUP]55 [/SUP]And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass.
[SUP]56 [/SUP]Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?
[SUP]57 [/SUP]Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?
 
October 24, 2013

Soldiers attending a pre-deployment briefing at Fort Hood say they were told that evangelical Christians and members of the Tea Party were a threat to the nation and that any soldier donating to those groups would be subjected to punishment under the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

A soldier who attended the October 17 briefing told journalist Todd Starnes the counter-intelligence agent in charge of the meeting spent nearly a half hour discussing "how evangelical Christians and groups like the American Family Association were 'tearing the country apart.'"

The soldier said he fears reprisals and asked not to be identified. He said there was a blanket statement that donating to any groups that were considered a threat to the military and government was punishable under military regulations.
Another soldier who attended the briefing alerted the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty. That individual's recollections of the briefing matched the others in attendance.

But this is not the first time an Army briefing has labeled evangelicals as extremists. Last April an Army Reserve briefing classified Evangelical Christianity and Catholicism as "religious extremism."

Two weeks ago, several dozen active duty troops at Camp Shelby in Mississippi, were told the American Family Association, a well-respected Christian ministry, should be classified as a domestic hate group because it advocates for traditional family values.

Too many times, military leaders are calling these "isolated" incidents. To the contrary, AFA is seeing a pattern of anti-Christian threats by military trainers.

U.S. Army threatens Christian soldiers with the brig | Liberal Logic 101
Is this factual? There's nothing legal about this.
 
Is this factual? There's nothing legal about this.
Check the web site given. Being in the military myself, we did as we were told. We lost the war in Nam due to politics, and that's the way we have used our military ever since. I can believe it. My grandson is also in the marines in NC. He is having a very difficult time. I take it as his beliefs, and the way he was raised.
 
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The question is not what ethnic groups are at odds with each other, the question is what we as Christians see right before our very eyes that is happening to our country.

Is this a response to me? Neither I nor anyone I'm reading made an argument about "ethnic groups at odds with each other".
 
Is this a response to me? Neither I nor anyone I'm reading made an argument about "ethnic groups at odds with each other".

I don't want attention drawn to the "Us poor persecuted Christians" explanations. The opening post doesn't plainly identify my thoughts very well concerning this, but post #8 is more definitive as to why I started this thread. I would like professing Christians’ thoughts drawn to themselves/ourselves, and question why a country that was built on Christian principles is no longer that way today, and define the root cause of our nation’s moral decline, and how our group should take a large percentage of responsibly, possibly due to doctrinal issues that we practice today, unlike 50 to 100 years ago, or thereabout. If this country hadn’t been founded on those ethnic principles, then my group would be exempt. It's all about us within our own ranks. I don’t think many will agree with me, but I think it’s mostly a fault with our group, not yours.