Problems with the Missouri Synod Lutheran Chrurch.
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Ohhhhh, I missed the Jerusalem vs. Rome difference--this is sublime comedy!
And I was sure that you and I were on Ignore, we're a "clique"...
"Hebrew" Roots...
Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, [even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
Heb 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
And I was sure that you and I were on Ignore, we're a "clique"...
"Hebrew" Roots...
Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, [even] Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec
Heb 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
Haahaahaahaahaahaahaahaa!!!! I know where yer goin' wit dat one!!!! I thought of her as soon as I read it!!
7For an overseer, as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, 8but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined...
so would you as a pastor or elder administer the bread and wine to an unrepentant homosexual couple?
or someone you knew to be an active Freemason?
or would you ask that they speak to you next time BEFORE the service?
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oh that's right....you'd make sure they said the sinner's prayer first. would that Roman Road leading (5 minutes before Communion?) include:
Romans 10:9-10
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Acts 2:38
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
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or no....would the freemason have to fast and pray for the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and speak in tongues first?
dunno....you tell me.
or someone you knew to be an active Freemason?
or would you ask that they speak to you next time BEFORE the service?
...
oh that's right....you'd make sure they said the sinner's prayer first. would that Roman Road leading (5 minutes before Communion?) include:
Romans 10:9-10
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”
Acts 2:38
Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
?
or no....would the freemason have to fast and pray for the Baptism of the Holy Ghost and speak in tongues first?
dunno....you tell me.
Hahaha.
First the supper is not 'administered' like flu shot.
- It's a meal.
Second, I would never forbid anyone from feasting at the Lord's Supper.
See, you don't seem to get it, the word 'unworthily' means a description of an action.
To do anything 'unworthily' is to act.
I know you won't get this, but apostle Paul was admonishing the believers to respect the Lord's supper, not glutton, not get drunk, share with those that have less. - etc. etc.
First the supper is not 'administered' like flu shot.
- It's a meal.
Second, I would never forbid anyone from feasting at the Lord's Supper.
See, you don't seem to get it, the word 'unworthily' means a description of an action.
To do anything 'unworthily' is to act.
I know you won't get this, but apostle Paul was admonishing the believers to respect the Lord's supper, not glutton, not get drunk, share with those that have less. - etc. etc.
What shall we do? -> Host desecration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Host desecration is a form of sacrilege in Christianity (most frequently identified as such in the traditions of Anglicanism, Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, and Roman Catholicism) involving the mistreatment or malicious use of a consecrated host—the sacred bread used in the Eucharistic service or Mass. ...
"Host desecration is a form of sacrilege in Christianity (most frequently identified as such in the traditions of Anglicanism, Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, and Roman Catholicism) involving the mistreatment or malicious use of a consecrated host—the sacred bread used in the Eucharistic service or Mass. ...
it is?
1 Corinthians 11
The Lord’s Supper
17But in the following instructions I do not commend you, because when you come together it is not for the better but for the worse. 18For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you. And I believe it in part,d 19for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized. 20When you come together, it is not the Lord’s supper that you eat. 21For in eating, each one goes ahead with his own meal. One goes hungry, another gets drunk. 22What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not.
23For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is fore you. Do this in remembrance of me.”f 25In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
27Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. 28Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.g 31But if we judged ourselves truly, we would not be judged. 32But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplinedi so that we may not be condemned along with the world.
33So then, my brothers,j when you come together to eat, wait for one another— 34if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home—so that when you come together it will not be for judgment. About the other things I will give directions when I come.
enough said.
you don't seem to understand the difference between the feast and the Lord's Supper.
....
so would you as a pastor or elder administer the bread and wine to an unrepentant homosexual couple?
or someone you knew to be an active Freemason?
well that's on you i guess.
for not discerning - for their sakes.
1 Corinthians 11
The Lord’s Supper
17But in the following instructions I do not commend you, because when you come together it is not for the better but for the worse. 18For, in the first place, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you. And I believe it in part,d 19for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized. 20When you come together, it is not the Lord’s supper that you eat. 21For in eating, each one goes ahead with his own meal. One goes hungry, another gets drunk. 22What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and humiliate those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I commend you in this? No, I will not.
23For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, 24and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, “This is my body which is fore you. Do this in remembrance of me.”f 25In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.
27Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord. 28Let a person examine himself, then, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. 29For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment on himself. 30That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.g 31But if we judged ourselves truly, we would not be judged. 32But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplinedi so that we may not be condemned along with the world.
33So then, my brothers,j when you come together to eat, wait for one another— 34if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home—so that when you come together it will not be for judgment. About the other things I will give directions when I come.
enough said.
you don't seem to understand the difference between the feast and the Lord's Supper.
....
so would you as a pastor or elder administer the bread and wine to an unrepentant homosexual couple?
or someone you knew to be an active Freemason?
well that's on you i guess.
for not discerning - for their sakes.