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This was a tough one for me, too.
I grew up believing in Santa, in a non-Christian home, and it was fun.
I was disappointed to find out it was all a sham.
I decided early on I would not teach my children to believe in a lie.
No tooth fairy, no Easter bunny, no Santa Claus.
They were always taught that gifts are from God, via people.
When they got older and learned about Santa Claus from others,
I taught them about a real Christian man named St. Nicholas
who was known for giving poor children gifts anonymously.
They've suffered no ill effects from not being taught to believe in "Santa Claus".
I grew up believing in Santa, in a non-Christian home, and it was fun.
I was disappointed to find out it was all a sham.
I decided early on I would not teach my children to believe in a lie.
No tooth fairy, no Easter bunny, no Santa Claus.
They were always taught that gifts are from God, via people.
When they got older and learned about Santa Claus from others,
I taught them about a real Christian man named St. Nicholas
who was known for giving poor children gifts anonymously.
They've suffered no ill effects from not being taught to believe in "Santa Claus".
oh yeah? Oh Yeah? OH YEAH? Well, NOWHERE in Scripture does it say that the 11 Disciples were WATER BAPTIZED!
....SO THERE......
MERRY CHRISTMAS by the way...........
boy, I can't wait until Easter Sunday......imagine all the stuff that will be posted then........(oh, should say my church celebrates Resurrection Sunday) ........sigh........
S
this question is a catch 22. My wife and i don't celebrate christmas because me coming out of paganism to christianity i see and understand all the paganistic rituals involved with the holiday. We have also come to the agreement that we are not going to tell our children about santa, the easter bunny...etc... well because it is a lie. However gift giving at christmas is neither benefiting nor wrong.
Anything if done with a heart for God is a good thing. I would sit down with him and talk to him about it. I feel like there is something else besides the church saying it's wrong that caused him to stop so i would be open minded and talk to him about it.
Ok, so we're up to what, 12, 20 people now? Maybe 50? Who knows?
Did the Disciples celebrate it? Did they tell us to?
Did God?
Did Jesus?
Paul?
Anybody?
(Note: I'm talking just for the sake of discussion. While I don't think Christmas is Biblical, I won't judge or condem those who celebrate it. That's between them and God. I'm just providing info for whoever might be interested in the "other" side.
Did the Disciples celebrate it? Did they tell us to?
Did God?
Did Jesus?
Paul?
Anybody?
(Note: I'm talking just for the sake of discussion. While I don't think Christmas is Biblical, I won't judge or condem those who celebrate it. That's between them and God. I'm just providing info for whoever might be interested in the "other" side.
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uh, as I understand it, there were probably only two Magi........three presents are spoken of, so folks just adopted the idea of three Magi........one present per.......but if memory serves me, when the Magi were speaking with Herod weren't there only two? Now, my Old Timer's Disease may be messing with me, so keep that in mind........
and...................Happy Thanksgiving, and Merry Christmas
and...................Happy Thanksgiving, and Merry Christmas
Ok, so we're up to what, 12, 20 people now? Maybe 50? Who knows?
Did the Disciples celebrate it? Did they tell us to?
Did God?
Did Jesus?
Paul?
Anybody?
(Note: I'm talking just for the sake of discussion. While I don't think Christmas is Biblical, I won't judge or condem those who celebrate it. That's between them and God. I'm just providing info for whoever might be interested in the "other" side.
Did the Disciples celebrate it? Did they tell us to?
Did God?
Did Jesus?
Paul?
Anybody?
(Note: I'm talking just for the sake of discussion. While I don't think Christmas is Biblical, I won't judge or condem those who celebrate it. That's between them and God. I'm just providing info for whoever might be interested in the "other" side.
CHRISTMAS IS BIBLICAL!
Was Christ born?
Did Christ grow from an infant to a child, from a child to a man, enter into His Ministry, die on Calvary's Cross, and WAS HE RESURRECTED? DOES HE LIVE TODAY?
If the answer is YES, then surely ALL OF THAT is worthy of celebration........shoot, I don't care what day one chooses to celebrate, but for goodness sakes don't say it ain't Biblical.............
Ok, it really doesn't say two, or three, or twenty two, or 144,000..........Magi (at least not in Matthew)
BUT THERE WERE ONLY THREE KINDS OF PRESENTS SPOKEN OF.......although, I suppose each of them could have given three different kinds of presents which would make the number of presents equal "the number of Magi present times 3"
[h=1]Matthew
2[/h]
1 .) Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2 .) Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
3 .) When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
4 .) And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
5 .) And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
6 .) And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.
7 .) Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared.
8 .) And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.
9 .) When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
10 .) When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
11 .) And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
12 .) And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
BUT THERE WERE ONLY THREE KINDS OF PRESENTS SPOKEN OF.......although, I suppose each of them could have given three different kinds of presents which would make the number of presents equal "the number of Magi present times 3"
[h=1]Matthew
2[/h]
1 .) Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
2 .) Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.
3 .) When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.
4 .) And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.
5 .) And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,
6 .) And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.
7 .) Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared.
8 .) And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.
9 .) When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.
10 .) When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.
11 .) And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.
12 .) And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.
Ok, it really doesn't say two, or three, or twenty two, or 144,000..........Magi (at least not in Matthew)
BUT THERE WERE ONLY THREE KINDS OF PRESENTS SPOKEN OF.......although, I suppose each of them could have given three different kinds of presents which would make the number of presents equal "the number of Magi present times 3"
BUT THERE WERE ONLY THREE KINDS OF PRESENTS SPOKEN OF.......although, I suppose each of them could have given three different kinds of presents which would make the number of presents equal "the number of Magi present times 3"
J
So he does whatever his church tells him? Has he thought it through for himself? If he does whatever his church tells him, I afraid there is nothing you could do to change his mind. If he is just being cheap, you could always buy your nieces a gift anyway. Perhaps he could teach them the true meaning of Christmas by giving them gifts, and then asking them to donate one to a childrens' charity.
I don't like it when people read "evil" into something as simple as giving a Christmas gift to their child. You are right, you only get one childhood and when its gone, its gone. My parents refused to celebrate Christmas and I never knew what it was like to put up a tree or visit Santa Claus at the mall. They listened to whatever their church told them. They were even afraid of being kicked out of their church if they went against its teachings.
I don't like it when people read "evil" into something as simple as giving a Christmas gift to their child. You are right, you only get one childhood and when its gone, its gone. My parents refused to celebrate Christmas and I never knew what it was like to put up a tree or visit Santa Claus at the mall. They listened to whatever their church told them. They were even afraid of being kicked out of their church if they went against its teachings.
Ok, so we're up to what, 12, 20 people now? Maybe 50? Who knows?
Did the Disciples celebrate it? Did they tell us to?
Did God?
Did Jesus?
Paul?
Anybody?
(Note: I'm talking just for the sake of discussion. While I don't think Christmas is Biblical, I won't judge or condem those who celebrate it. That's between them and God. I'm just providing info for whoever might be interested in the "other" side.
Did the Disciples celebrate it? Did they tell us to?
Did God?
Did Jesus?
Paul?
Anybody?
(Note: I'm talking just for the sake of discussion. While I don't think Christmas is Biblical, I won't judge or condem those who celebrate it. That's between them and God. I'm just providing info for whoever might be interested in the "other" side.
oh yeah? Oh Yeah? OH YEAH? Well, NOWHERE in Scripture does it say that the 11 Disciples were WATER BAPTIZED!
....SO THERE......
MERRY CHRISTMAS by the way...........
boy, I can't wait until Easter Sunday......imagine all the stuff that will be posted then........(oh, should say my church celebrates Resurrection Sunday) ........sigh........
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....SO THERE......
MERRY CHRISTMAS by the way...........
boy, I can't wait until Easter Sunday......imagine all the stuff that will be posted then........(oh, should say my church celebrates Resurrection Sunday) ........sigh........
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Eze 8:13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
Eze 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.
Eze 8:15 Then said he unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations than these.
Eze 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.