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Never mind the law? Here's a real threat to all humanity wrong thread maybe bt take note folks this is real???

Humankind’s Most Dangerous Moment: Fukushima Fuel Pool at Unit 4. “This is an Issue of Human Survival.”


The world community must now take charge at Fukushima


By Harvey Wasserman
Global Research, September 20, 2013
freepress.org
Region: Asia
Theme: Environment
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We are now within two months of what may be humankind’s most dangerous moment since the Cuban Missile Crisis.


There is no excuse for not acting. All the resources our species can muster must be focussed on the fuel pool at Fukushima Unit 4.


Fukushima’s owner, Tokyo Electric (Tepco), says that within as few as 60 days it may begin trying to remove more than 1300 spent fuel rods from a badly damaged pool perched 100 feet in the air. The pool rests on a badly damaged building that is tilting, sinking and could easily come down in the next earthquake, if not on its own.


Some 400 tons of fuel in that pool could spew out more than 15,000 times as much radiation as was released at Hiroshima.


The one thing certain about this crisis is that Tepco does not have the scientific, engineering or financial resources to handle it. Nor does the Japanese government. The situation demands a coordinated worldwide effort of the best scientists and engineers our species can muster.


Why is this so serious?


We already know that thousands of tons of heavily contaminated water are pouring through the Fukushima site, carrying a devil’s brew of long-lived poisonous isotopes into the Pacific. Tuna irradiated with fallout traceable to Fukushima have already been caught off the coast of California. We can expect far worse.


Tepco continues to pour more water onto the proximate site of three melted reactor cores it must somehow keep cool.Steam plumes indicate fission may still be going on somewhere underground. But nobody knows exactly where those cores actually are.


Much of that irradiated water now sits in roughly a thousand huge but fragile tanks that have been quickly assembled and strewn around the site. Many are already leaking. All could shatter in the next earthquake, releasing thousands of tons of permanent poisons into the Pacific.


The water flowing through the site is also undermining the remnant structures at Fukushima, including the one supporting the fuel pool at Unit Four.


More than 6,000 fuel assemblies now sit in a common pool just 50 meters from Unit Four. Some contain plutonium. The pool has no containment over it. It’s vulnerable to loss of coolant, the collapse of a nearby building, another earthquake, another tsunami and more.


Overall, more than 11,000 fuel assemblies are scattered around the Fukushima site. According to long-time expert and former Department of Energy official Robert Alvarez, there is more than 85 times as much lethal cesium on site as was released at Chernobyl.


Radioactive hot spots continue to be found around Japan. There are indications of heightened rates of thyroid damage among local children.


The immediate bottom line is that those fuel rods must somehow come safely out of the Unit Four fuel pool as soon as possible.


Just prior to the 3/11/11 earthquake and tsunami that shattered the Fukushima site, the core of Unit Four was removed for routine maintenance and refueling. Like some two dozen reactors in the US and too many more around the world, the General Electric-designed pool into which that core now sits is 100 feet in the air.


Spent fuel must somehow be kept under water. It’s clad in zirconium alloy which will spontaneously ignite when exposed to air. Long used in flash bulbs for cameras, zirconium burns with an extremely bright hot flame.


Each uncovered rod emits enough radiation to kill someone standing nearby in a matter of minutes. A conflagration could force all personnel to flee the site and render electronic machinery unworkable.


According to Arnie Gundersen, a nuclear engineer with forty years in an industry for which he once manufactured fuel rods, the ones in the Unit 4 core are bent, damaged and embrittled to the point of crumbling. Cameras have shown troubling quantities of debris in the fuel pool, which itself is damaged.


The engineering and scientific barriers to emptying the Unit Four fuel pool are unique and daunting, says Gundersen. But it must be done to 100% perfection.


Should the attempt fail, the rods could be exposed to air and catch fire, releasing horrific quantities of radiation into the atmosphere. The pool could come crashing to the ground, dumping the rods together into a pile that could fission and possibly explode. The resulting radioactive cloud would threaten the health and safety of all us.


Chernobyl’s first 1986 fallout reached California within ten days. Fukushima’s in 2011 arrived in less than a week. A new fuel fire at Unit 4 would pour out a continuous stream of lethal radioactive poisons for centuries.


Former Ambassador Mitsuhei Murata says full-scale releases from Fukushima “would destroy the world environment and our civilization. This is not rocket science, nor does it connect to the pugilistic debate over nuclear power plants. This is an issue of human survival.”


Neither Tokyo Electric nor the government of Japan can go this alone. There is no excuse for deploying anything less than a coordinated team of the planet’s best scientists and engineers.


We have two months or less to act.


For now, we are petitioning the United Nations and President Obama to mobilize the global scientific and engineering community to take charge at Fukushima and the job of moving these fuel rods to safety.


You can sign the petition at: CRISIS AT FUKUSHIMA #4: PETITION THE UN & US FOR GLOBAL RESPONSE | NukeFree.org


If you have a better idea, please follow it. But do something and do it now.


The clock is ticking. The hand of global nuclear disaster is painfully close to midnight.Harvey Wasserman is Senior Editor of the Columbus Free Press and Free Press. He edits Nuke Free.


For now, we are petitioning the United Nations and President Obama to mobilize the global scientific and engineering community to take charge at Fukushima and the job of moving these fuel rods to safety.
 

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How many times does it have to be said that 1 John 3:4 does not say the above? It says that whoever commits sin does lawlessness (not transgresseth the law of Moses), and sin is lawlessness (not sin is the transgression of the law of Moses). Lawlessness is not believing in Christ and trying to enter the sheepfold another way, such as works of the law of Moses.
Interesting definition, I think it means a space shuttle. Your opinion and my opinion are not important here...

Barclay says...

(i) He tells us what sin is. It is the deliberate breaking of a law which a man well knows. Sin is to obey oneself rather than to obey God.

John Gill...

1 John 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin
This, in connection with what follows, is true of any sin, great or small, but here designs a course of sinning, a wilful, obstinate, persisting in sin:

transgresseth also the law;
not of man, unless the law of men is founded on, and agrees with the law of God, for sometimes to transgress the laws of men is no sin, and to obey them would be criminal; but the law of God, and that not the ceremonial law, which was now abolished, and therefore to neglect it, or go contrary to it, was not sinful; but the moral law, and every precept of it, which regards love to God or to our neighbour, and which may be transgressed in thought, word, and deed; and he that committeth sin transgresses it in one or all of these ways, of which the law accuses and convicts, and for it pronounces guilty before God, and curses and condemns; and this therefore is an argument against sinning, because it is against the law of God, which is holy, just, and good, and contains the good and acceptable, and perfect will of God, which is agreeable to his nature and perfections; so that sin is ultimately against God himself:

for sin is a transgression of the law;
and whatever is a transgression of the law is sin; the law requires a conformity of nature and actions to it, and where there is a want of either, it is a breach of it; it is concerned with the will and affections, the inclinations and desires of the mind, as well as the outward actions of life; concupiscence or lust is a violation of the law, as well as actual sin; and especially a course of sinning both in heart, lip, and life, is a continued transgression of it, and exposes to its curse and condemnation, and to the wrath of God; and is inconsistent with a true hope of being the sons and heirs of God: but then the transgression of what is not the law of God, whether the traditions of the elders among the Jews, or the ordinances of men among Papists, Pagans, and Turks, or any other, is no sin, nor should affect the consciences of men.

And any number of scholars say that sin is the breaking of God's Law. Paul says as much...

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

Sorry that I John 3:4 doesn't say what you wish it said.
 
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Interesting definition, I think it means a space shuttle. Your opinion and my opinion are not important here...
It is clearly said in the bible what sin is. Anything not of faith is sin. All unrighteousness is sin. Lawlessness is sin. Anything that tries to take away from the revelation of Christ and his covenant and words in order to put attention on something else is lawlessness and sin.
 
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(i) He tells us what sin is. It is the deliberate breaking of a law which a man well knows. Sin is to obey oneself rather than to obey God.
You deliberately and continually break the revealed will of GOD, which is faith and love, by teaching that we are under the law.
 
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God bless the patience of jgig and he rose from dead? Well dne you two I gave up saying same things after 180 pages bt you two still trying even amongst insults and worse bless you both friends....
 
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Shadows.



Asked and answered. See earlier in the thread.

-JGIG
Exodus 25
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And thou shalt put into the ark the testimony(ten Commandments) which I shall give thee.

1 Kings 8:9

There was nothing in the ark save the two tables of stone, which Moses put there at Horeb, when the LORD made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt
 
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God bless the patience of jgig and he rose from dead? Well dne you two I gave up saying same things after 180 pages bt you two still trying even amongst insults and worse bless you both friends....
[h=3]Proverbs 26[/h]King James Version (KJV)

26 As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honour is not seemly for a fool.
 
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It is clearly said in the bible what sin is. Anything not of faith is sin. All unrighteousness is sin. Lawlessness is sin. Anything that tries to take away from the revelation of Christ and his covenant and words in order to put attention on something else is lawlessness and sin.
I wonder why we ask for forgiveness of sins hmm is because of lack of faith

1 john 3

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
 

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Did not faith and Love existed in the old What did father Abraham had at first law or faith
Abraham had the Law...

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

word for Laws here is...


H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.

Abraham obeyed the Torah.
 
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Never mind the law? Here's a real threat to all humanity wrong thread maybe bt take note folks this is real???

Humankind’s Most Dangerous Moment: Fukushima Fuel Pool at Unit 4. “This is an Issue of Human Survival.”


The world community must now take charge at Fukushima


By Harvey Wasserman
Global Research, September 20, 2013
freepress.org
Region: Asia
Theme: Environment
25.4K 2512 902 61.9K





We are now within two months of what may be humankind’s most dangerous moment since the Cuban Missile Crisis.


There is no excuse for not acting. All the resources our species can muster must be focussed on the fuel pool at Fukushima Unit 4.


Fukushima’s owner, Tokyo Electric (Tepco), says that within as few as 60 days it may begin trying to remove more than 1300 spent fuel rods from a badly damaged pool perched 100 feet in the air. The pool rests on a badly damaged building that is tilting, sinking and could easily come down in the next earthquake, if not on its own.


Some 400 tons of fuel in that pool could spew out more than 15,000 times as much radiation as was released at Hiroshima.


The one thing certain about this crisis is that Tepco does not have the scientific, engineering or financial resources to handle it. Nor does the Japanese government. The situation demands a coordinated worldwide effort of the best scientists and engineers our species can muster.


Why is this so serious?


We already know that thousands of tons of heavily contaminated water are pouring through the Fukushima site, carrying a devil’s brew of long-lived poisonous isotopes into the Pacific. Tuna irradiated with fallout traceable to Fukushima have already been caught off the coast of California. We can expect far worse.


Tepco continues to pour more water onto the proximate site of three melted reactor cores it must somehow keep cool.Steam plumes indicate fission may still be going on somewhere underground. But nobody knows exactly where those cores actually are.


Much of that irradiated water now sits in roughly a thousand huge but fragile tanks that have been quickly assembled and strewn around the site. Many are already leaking. All could shatter in the next earthquake, releasing thousands of tons of permanent poisons into the Pacific.


The water flowing through the site is also undermining the remnant structures at Fukushima, including the one supporting the fuel pool at Unit Four.


More than 6,000 fuel assemblies now sit in a common pool just 50 meters from Unit Four. Some contain plutonium. The pool has no containment over it. It’s vulnerable to loss of coolant, the collapse of a nearby building, another earthquake, another tsunami and more.


Overall, more than 11,000 fuel assemblies are scattered around the Fukushima site. According to long-time expert and former Department of Energy official Robert Alvarez, there is more than 85 times as much lethal cesium on site as was released at Chernobyl.


Radioactive hot spots continue to be found around Japan. There are indications of heightened rates of thyroid damage among local children.


The immediate bottom line is that those fuel rods must somehow come safely out of the Unit Four fuel pool as soon as possible.


Just prior to the 3/11/11 earthquake and tsunami that shattered the Fukushima site, the core of Unit Four was removed for routine maintenance and refueling. Like some two dozen reactors in the US and too many more around the world, the General Electric-designed pool into which that core now sits is 100 feet in the air.


Spent fuel must somehow be kept under water. It’s clad in zirconium alloy which will spontaneously ignite when exposed to air. Long used in flash bulbs for cameras, zirconium burns with an extremely bright hot flame.


Each uncovered rod emits enough radiation to kill someone standing nearby in a matter of minutes. A conflagration could force all personnel to flee the site and render electronic machinery unworkable.


According to Arnie Gundersen, a nuclear engineer with forty years in an industry for which he once manufactured fuel rods, the ones in the Unit 4 core are bent, damaged and embrittled to the point of crumbling. Cameras have shown troubling quantities of debris in the fuel pool, which itself is damaged.


The engineering and scientific barriers to emptying the Unit Four fuel pool are unique and daunting, says Gundersen. But it must be done to 100% perfection.


Should the attempt fail, the rods could be exposed to air and catch fire, releasing horrific quantities of radiation into the atmosphere. The pool could come crashing to the ground, dumping the rods together into a pile that could fission and possibly explode. The resulting radioactive cloud would threaten the health and safety of all us.


Chernobyl’s first 1986 fallout reached California within ten days. Fukushima’s in 2011 arrived in less than a week. A new fuel fire at Unit 4 would pour out a continuous stream of lethal radioactive poisons for centuries.


Former Ambassador Mitsuhei Murata says full-scale releases from Fukushima “would destroy the world environment and our civilization. This is not rocket science, nor does it connect to the pugilistic debate over nuclear power plants. This is an issue of human survival.”


Neither Tokyo Electric nor the government of Japan can go this alone. There is no excuse for deploying anything less than a coordinated team of the planet’s best scientists and engineers.


We have two months or less to act.


For now, we are petitioning the United Nations and President Obama to mobilize the global scientific and engineering community to take charge at Fukushima and the job of moving these fuel rods to safety.


You can sign the petition at: CRISIS AT FUKUSHIMA #4: PETITION THE UN & US FOR GLOBAL RESPONSE | NukeFree.org


If you have a better idea, please follow it. But do something and do it now.


The clock is ticking. The hand of global nuclear disaster is painfully close to midnight.Harvey Wasserman is Senior Editor of the Columbus Free Press and Free Press. He edits Nuke Free.


For now, we are petitioning the United Nations and President Obama to mobilize the global scientific and engineering community to take charge at Fukushima and the job of moving these fuel rods to safety.
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I wonder why we ask for forgiveness of sins hmm is because of lack of faith

1 john 3

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
When you join the grace only crowd, there are certain passages you must rip from your Bible.
 
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Abraham had the Law...

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

word for Laws here is...


H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.

Abraham obeyed the Torah.
hmmm you are too jumpy i know Abraham kept sabbath etc the question i asked was what came first and faith always comes first so that we may obey the Law because if we obey the law the law says we are bless thus that reqiures faith
 
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Abraham had the Law...

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

word for Laws here is...


H8451
תּרה תּורה
tôrâh tôrâh
to-raw', to-raw'
From H3384; a precept or statute, especially the Decalogue or Pentateuch: - law.

Abraham obeyed the Torah.
Adam and Eve kept the law but hey some will say shew me where Adam and Eve kept sabbath hmmmmm ironically though Cain knew he murdered his brother i wonder why hmmm as some said the law only came into being at Mt Sinai hmm they are so foolish
 
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So instead of straight answers you two give insults and more questions.

Hoffco: You are correct in one sense; everything must be in proper context. For instance, are you in First Adam or Last Adam? Are you in the Old Covenant or in the New Covenant? Being clear on those points makes everything else fall into place.

-JGIG

sorry if you find i am insulting hmm Paul was rude in speech hmmm

So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book [not the Ten Commandments which God had written on two tables of stone, but the civil law which Moses had written in a book—the law of Moses], when they were finished, that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying: "Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there as a witness against you. "
 
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Notice that the Book of the Law was not placed inside the ark, but "beside" (by the side of, RSV) the ark.
 

john832

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hmmm you are too jumpy i know Abraham kept sabbath etc the question i asked was what came first and faith always comes first so that we may obey the Law because if we obey the law the law says we are bless thus that reqiures faith
Law and Grace. They are mutually inclusive not exclusive.