you are a not a sinner you are a grace keeper a sinner is someone who breaks God law
faith and grace remember
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you are a not a sinner you are a grace keeper a sinner is someone who breaks God law
faith and grace remember
the ironyWell, exactly. Grace does not give us license. It does not do away with the Law. Grace is unearned, undeserved forgiveness for transgressing the Law...
Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Heb 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
Christ never told anyone to go do whatever they wanted, He was very specific...
Joh 5:13 And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place.
Joh 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
Joh 8:11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
i know i am a sinner because of God law that shew me that i am a sinner unlike you who claim to be a sinner hmm remember you are under grace not law
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timberdoodle
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I will take Grace over the Law any day. Maybe someday you will as well.
Hebrews 8:6, “But now hath He (Jesus) obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also He is the mediator of a “Better Covenant, which was established upon “Better Promises”. The new covenant is not a covenant of works: but rest in his work. By it all the Body of Christ is not under of the condemning ministry of the law (2 Cor. 3:9; Rom. 8:1-2 there is no condemnation), since believers are not under the law they are beyond its grasp to condemn (Rom. 3:19).
Paul states in Rom. 6:14...” for you are not under law but under grace.” He also makes it clear in Gal. 5:18 “if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.” The previous verses state “so that you do not do the things that you wish.” The Law is not given to the Christian as the standard to live by, but to show the unbeliever how below the standard we do live, as Paul states in 1 Tim.1:9 The Law is for the unrighteous.
Paul states the LAW is Not of Faith. The ministry of the law working in a Christian cannot please God, for it is not of faith yet the law is not of faith, but “The man who does them shall live by them.” Gal. 3:12
Hope this helps
Timberdoodle
Frankly, I sin daily. There are sins of commission and sins of ommission. Ever think something of someone else that is not good? Presto, you are guilty...
Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
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timberdoodle
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i know i am a sinner because of God law that shew me that i am a sinner unlike you who claim to be a sinner hmm remember you are under grace not law
What exactly is your point here?
Well, are you saying then that any action is appropriate? Can I lust after my neighbor's house? His car? His wife? After all, I am not under the Law.
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MidniteWelder
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Hello Timberdoodle,
We must remember, Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath
He always carried out the Father's will
As does a pastor, even saving the lost sheep from falling into the pit on the Sabbath day.
Matthew 12
11 He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out?
12 How much more valuable is a person than a sheep!
Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
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timberdoodle
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here is the problem. I do not believe that any person on this forum can live a sinless life. I agree with much of what you have said here but I do not carry the Burden of keeping the 10 Commandments.
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timberdoodle
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timberdoodle
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Romans 13
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
I wonder where this was taken from hmm hey we are not under law hmmmm
I wonder if the word fulfill the law mean done away with the law just a thought
Yes you can do those things. But you will grieve the spirit, and if you don't repent you will be broken off as a dead branch.
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timberdoodle
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I did this once before and no one addressed it.
How many cubits can you walk from your house on the Old Testament Sabbath? Is your food all prepared the day before? Do you drive to the store and buy things on saturday?
Timberdoodle
The One who spoke from Mt. Sinai said this...
Mar 3:4 And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.
Luk 6:9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy it?
Since He created the Sabbath, I suspect He knew the answer.
Shew me in the bible in the old testament where saving an animal on the sabbath was forbbiden
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