The Ten Commandments-Were they nailed to the Cross?

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timberdoodle

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Uh, show me where it tells us this?
Are you a keeper of the Sabbath? If you are then you really should study it better.

In Leviticus Moses speaks of three different Sabbaths. Jubilee, Week of Sabbath and the Year of Sabbath. Do uyou keep all of them?
 

john832

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Yes you can do those things. But you will grieve the spirit, and if you don't repent you will be broken off as a dead branch.
Why? What defines that as sin? Paul says the Law defines sin...

Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
 
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I did this once before and no one addressed it.

How many cubits can you walk from your house on the Old Testament Sabbath? Is your food all prepared the day before? Do you drive to the store and buy things on saturday?

Timberdoodle
Did the israelites have electricity back then .

When night fall and there lamps go out what were they to do ?

And i will give you the scripture and hmm well you figure it out

[h=3]Exodus 35[/h]King James Version (KJV)



1 And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the Lord hath commanded, that ye should do them.

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
 

john832

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Are you a keeper of the Sabbath? If you are then you really should study it better.

In Leviticus Moses speaks of three different Sabbaths. Jubilee, Week of Sabbath and the Year of Sabbath. Do uyou keep all of them?
No, there are more than that...

Lev 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

These holy convocations are Sabbaths...

Lev 23:32 It shall be unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth day of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
 
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Are you a keeper of the Sabbath? If you are then you really should study it better.

In Leviticus Moses speaks of three different Sabbaths. Jubilee, Week of Sabbath and the Year of Sabbath. Do uyou keep all of them?
actually there is more that 3 sabbaths just a thought ?
 
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Being bought at a price is very similar to the binding arrangement of a Dowry being paid to the Father for a man's bride...yes?
Actually, the NT imagery is not one of dowry, but one of ownership, as in slavery.

We are slaves to righteousness (Ro 6:18-19),
slaves to God (Ro 6:22; 1Pe 2:16),
slaves to Christ (1Co 7:22; Eph 6:6).

As his bride are we not expected to do something in return?
Not necessarily pay back the price paid for us, but more so obedience and submission out of loving cooperation to our master.
To also lay down our life and share in Christs sufferings as a servant.
Hence the reason we are co-heirs with Christ to the kingdom, As a wife is an heir to the kingdom with her husband.

Would it be correct to say we have not been freed to go our own way as if we are our own master
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Yes, we are not our own because we have been "bought and paid for" by God in Christ Jesus.
Therefore, we are to live for Christ, not for ourselves (2Co 5:15; Ro 6:13).

The grace we have been given is that we now serve a loving master, and have been freed from the bondage of being a slave to sin.
Well, it's more that that, it is salvation (Eph 2:8-9) from God's wrath on our sin (Ro 5:9).
 

john832

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#68
By loving my neighbor I have fulfilled the Law of God. I like that.

Timberdoodle
And so by loving your neighbor you do these things?

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

You forgot about loving God...

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
 

john832

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Actually, the NT imagery is not one of dowry, but one of ownership, as in slavery.

We are slaves to righteousness (Ro 6:18-19),
slaves to God (Ro 6:22; 1Pe 2:16),
slaves to Christ (1Co 7:22; Eph 6:6).


Yes, we are not our own because we have been "bought and paid for" by God in Christ Jesus.
Therefore, we are to live for Christ, not for ourselves (2Co 5:15; Ro 6:13).


Well, it's more that that, it is salvation (Eph 2:8-9) from God's wrath on our sin (Ro 5:9).

What is righteousness?
 

john832

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Did the israelites have electricity back then .

When night fall and there lamps go out what were they to do ?

And i will give you the scripture and hmm well you figure it out

[h=3]Exodus 35[/h]King James Version (KJV)



1 And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the Lord hath commanded, that ye should do them.

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the Lord: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
As far as kindling a fire, get the context...

Exo 35:1 And Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said unto them, These are the words which the LORD hath commanded, that ye should do them.
Exo 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.
Exo 35:3 Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.
Exo 35:4 And Moses spake unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, saying, This is the thing which the LORD commanded, saying,
Exo 35:5 Take ye from among you an offering unto the LORD: whosoever is of a willing heart, let him bring it, an offering of the LORD; gold, and silver, and brass,
Exo 35:6 And blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine linen, and goats' hair,
Exo 35:7 And rams' skins dyed red, and badgers' skins, and shittim wood,
Exo 35:8 And oil for the light, and spices for anointing oil, and for the sweet incense,
Exo 35:9 And onyx stones, and stones to be set for the ephod, and for the breastplate.
Exo 35:10 And every wise hearted among you shall come, and make all that the LORD hath commanded;

God forbids a fire for doing work, in this case building the Tabernacle.
 
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timberdoodle

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Hmmm, I see the problem, you have confused Wikipedia with the Word of God. I really don't give a rip about what wickipedia says, I care deeply about what God says.

Seriously?

Lets start here.

Exodus 20:8-10
Exodus 31:15
Deuteronomy 5:12-14
Isaiah 58:13
 
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timberdoodle

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Which sabbath pointed towards Jesus and which did not ?
Since the whole OLD Testament law was still in tact at the Time of Christs earthly ministry then why would you suggest that He didn't break the Old Testament Sabbath?

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