So...how old is the Earth?

[Cup-of-Ruin]

And people ask me why I never converted to Christianity like my parents. This is a perfect example. I have no room in my life for arrogance, nor is it a G-dly attribute.

Proverbs 22:4
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The reward for humility is fear of AD-NAI, along with wealth, honor and life. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Zephaniah 2:3[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Seek AD-NAI, all you humble in the land, you who exercise his justice; seek righteousness, seek humility - you might be hidden on the day of AD-NAI's anger. [/FONT]

You don't convert, God chooses you, you are obviously not chosen.

 

[MahogonySnail]

I think it's funny how they pretend to not write God's name but it's pretty obvious what it says. I think something like --- would be more mysterious and keep people guessing.

 

[pickles]

And people ask me why I never converted to Christianity like my parents. This is a perfect example. I have no room in my life for arrogance, nor is it a G-dly attribute.

Proverbs 22:4
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The reward for humility is fear of AD-NAI, along with wealth, honor and life. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Zephaniah 2:3[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Seek AD-NAI, all you humble in the land, you who exercise his justice; seek righteousness, seek humility - you might be hidden on the day of AD-NAI's anger. [/FONT]

Arel, do not let the actions of a few discourage you from knowing the truth. We all have our failings and sin. That is why I love Jesus so. He took my sins and weaknesses opon himself. Because he knew that none of us was able to keep from sin a foolishness. For me it does not matter how lod the earth is. There are so many greater things that I need to seek and do. The greatest is loving all in this world, not because of what they do for me. But simply because it is what Jesus asked of me. May God bless you and keep faith, hope and love always in your life. pickles

 

[Arel]

Partially because when the Holy Scriptures were written, there were no vowels.

As to Cup-of-Ruin...our G-d is the One True G-d of Isra'el, sir, and I'll thank you not to associate me or my people with the Adversary again. It was one of *our* prophets who threw down the prophets of Ba'al and made a mockery of their god, proving Ad-nai as the True.

 

[Arel]

You don't convert, God chooses you, you are obviously not chosen.

As rude and arrogant as you have been thus far, I'll accept that as a good thing.

 

[Arel]

I think it's funny how they pretend to not write God's name but it's pretty obvious what it says. I think something like --- would be more mysterious and keep people guessing.

See, here's a profound difference between Judaism and Christianity - we don't buy into this "type and shadow" nonsense. It's NOT about being mysterious or making people guess. It's about doing what we think should be done so as not to use the holy name of G-d lightly or in vain.

 

[MahogonySnail]

See, here's a profound difference between Judaism and Christianity - we don't buy into this "type and shadow" nonsense. It's NOT about being mysterious or making people guess. It's about doing what we think should be done so as not to use the holy name of G-d lightly or in vain.

But God isn't the name of God, I thought. It's not even Hebrew? No matter whether you say G-d or God or Go- or -od you are still using the same word??

 

[Arel]

But God isn't the name of God, I thought. It's not even Hebrew? No matter whether you say G-d or God or Go- or -od you are still using the same word??

G-d is the title for Hashem...but it is still used as a name for Him.

And, again, it's not about using the word, because the word isn't even being used in its entirety.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Partially because when the Holy Scriptures were written, there were no vowels.

That is incorrect, the oldest OT is the Septuagint, in which God has the title Kurious Theos, but fulfilling OT prophecy God has a new name, which is the only name by which men can be saved, that Name is Jesus Christ.

As to Cup-of-Ruin...our G-d is the One True G-d of Isra'el, sir, and I'll thank you not to associate me or my people with the Adversary again. It was one of *our* prophets who threw down the prophets of Ba'al and made a mockery of their god, proving Ad-nai as the True.

God is in covenant the new covenant as per Hebrews 8:8-12 as prophecised by Jeremiah 31:31-38 with Christians, all the house of Judah and all the House of Israel has been Christian as soon as Jesus' divine blood hit the ground, Jesus came only for the 'lost sheep of Israel' whom are a people not geographical location which leaves the 'Jews' as the fulfillment of Revelation 2:9 "those who call themselves Jews, but do lie and are the Synagogue of Satan."

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

As rude and arrogant as you have been thus far, I'll accept that as a good thing.

I'm not the one blaspheming God's Holy Name, 'unless you repent, you shall all likewise perish.'

 

[Arel]

That is incorrect, the oldest OT is the Septuagint, in which God has the title Kurious Theos, but fulfilling OT prophecy God has a new name, which is the olny name by which men can be saved, that Name is Jesus Christ.

Uhm...no. See, the Septuagint...yeah, it's a translation. Just an fyi, Moshe and the other writers of the Taknakh...none of them spoke Greek. They spoke Hebrew.

God is in covenant the new covenant as per Hebrews 8:8-12 as prophecised by Jeremiah 31:31-38 with Christians, all the house of Judah and all the House of Israel has been Christian as soon as Jesus' divine blood hit the ground, Jesus came only for the 'lost sheep of Israel' whom are a people not geographical location which leaves the 'Jews' as the fulfillment of Revelation 2:9 "those who call themselves Jews, but do lie and are the Synagogue of Satan."

So, you're basically saying the Jews aren't Jews anymore and that Christians are the "real" Jews?

 

[Arel]

I'm not the one blaspheming God's Holy Name, 'unless you repent, you shall all likewise perish.'

How am I blaspheming G-d's Holy Name by taking such great care NOT even to write it out all the way?

 

[MahogonySnail]

It's fairly common belief that Christians are the real Jews.
Arel do you think God is so stupid that He doesn't know you are pretending to write God?

 

[Arel]

It's fairly common belief that Christians are the real Jews.
Arel do you think God is so stupid that He doesn't know you are pretending to write God?

I'm aware of that, as I encounter it frequently. As ignorant and unbiblical as it is.

And no, actually, I don't think He is stupid at all. I do think you are slightly lacking in the mental facilities, seeing as you can't seem to grasp such a simple concept as this.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Uhm...no. See, the Septuagint...yeah, it's a translation. Just an fyi, Moshe and the other writers of the Taknakh...none of them spoke Greek. They spoke Hebrew.

Septugint is the Bible that Jesus and the Apostles read as it was the only OT in existence at the time, their is no older known OT, the Hebrew OT is dated 1009 AD, this is historical fact. Jesus and the Apostles and all the Israelites spoke Greek as their first language and Aramaic as their second, Hebrew is Masoretic Hebrew it is a combination of Herodian Script, Phoenicain and Aramiac.

So, you're basically saying the Jews aren't Jews anymore and that Christians are the "real" Jews?

"Jew" is only 200 year old, it comes from the Chaldee word yehuwdiy which means 'subject of the land of Judea' in a geographcal sense.

 

[MahogonySnail]

I grasp this simple concept quite well - you put a - in between G and d pretending not to write God, but in fact you do write God. I know it, God knows it, everyone knows what you are saying. I just don't see the point of your vain humility.

 

[Arel]

I grasp this simple concept quite well - you put a - in between G and d pretending not to write God, but in fact you do write God. I know it, God knows it, everyone knows what you are saying. I just don't see the point of your vain humility.

The more you speak on it, the more I'm convinced that you only came to know what you're saying, but in reality, you do not know what you're talking about, because I am not pretending anything

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

How am I blaspheming G-d's Holy Name by taking such great care NOT even to write it out all the way?

God has a new Name (Isaiah 42:16-19), that Name is Jesus Christ, unless you repent, bow the knee, and confess with your mouth and believe with your heart that He is Lord and Saviour, then you are a blasphemer.

 

[Arel]

Septugint is the Bible that Jesus and the Apostles read as it was the only OT in existence at the time, their is no older known OT, the Hebrew OT is dated 1009 AD, this is historical fact. Jesus and the Apostles and all the Israelites spoke Greek as their first language and Aramaic as their second, Hebrew is Masoretic Hebrew it is a combination of Herodian Script, Phoenicain and Aramiac.

Care to prove these "historical facts"? Because Hebrew is a lot older than Herod.

"Jew" is only 200 year old, it comes from the Chaldee word yehuwdiy which means 'subject of the land of Judea' in a geographcal sense.

That's funny, because "Jew" actually comes from Judah, Jacob's son.

 

[MahogonySnail]

The more you speak on it, the more I'm convinced that you only came to know what you're saying, but in reality, you do not know what you're talking about, because I am not pretending anything

How does including an o or not including an o dictate the difference between taking God's name in vain and not taking God's name in vain? Doesn't make sense to me. Regardless of whether you write it as G-d or God , God is still going to know whether you are taking it in vain or not.