Let me give you a logical analogy .Your saying god judges all of humanity based on the actions of 1 person i reject that cncept and this is why.If there are three identical triplets and one commits murder . Would you punish the other one ? Why not ? Because they are not the SAME person .
How can good come from evil ?
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Why don't Christians pray to thank god the way honourable humans did ?
"And he (Jesus) went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed..."-(MATTHEW 26:39).
"And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship..."-(JOSHUA 5:14).
"And he (Elijah) cast himself down upon the earth, and put his face between his knees."-(1 KINGS 18:42).
"And they (Moses and Aaron) fell upon their faces..."-(NUMBERS 20:6).
"And Abraham fell on his face..."-(GENESIS 17:3).
Again you have it wrong.... Why do people always look at Christs death as the salvation... Like 99% of Christians you also do not have clue wht salvation is.....
Salvation is NOT in the death of Jesus, but in the RESURRECTION of Jesus.... Jesus died only to get sin REMOVED from us, but HE WAS RESURRECTED so we can be BORN OF GOD... The life of a SAVED person in not in the cross or DEATH OR BLOOD of Jesus... It is in the SPIRIT of JESUS! The RESURRECTED SPIRIT....
Salvation is not unto death but unto HOLY LIFE.... What other God has given any man a HOLY LIFE here on earth? ONLY Jesus can do it, for HE OVERCAME THE LIFE THAT KEADS TO DEATH.... Sin! Jesus overcame SIN and DEATH....
Salvation is unto ETERNAL HOLY LIFE WITH GOD... and we get it here, RIGHT HERE ON EARTH.... THe flesh is JUST a vessel, the soul and the Spirit, is SAVED HERE IN THE FLESH..... That is why God REMOVES the OLD MAN WITH THE BAPTISM OF FIRE, and BAPTIZE THIS FELSH WITH HIS SPIRIT, TO LIVE 100% in HIS WILL... So there is free will FOR GOD TO LIVE IN OUR BODIES.... WOW!!! that is a salvation is it not? God living in our bodies... a holy and perfect life.... That is the TRUTH...
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So you're saying you're sinless and you're being punished for Adam's sin? Nah, we aren't punished for Adam's sin, we are punished for our own sin. But it was carried genetically through Adam's seed. If you were able to not sin since birth, tell us how. But if not, then that's the reason why Jesus died, for your sin.
"Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin." - Deuteronomy 24:16 NASB
In the spiritual sense, every sinful human has been separate from God by their sins, of the spiritual death did every man fall. We are redeemed through Jesus and made alive through Him.
First of all ,Matthew 24:36
"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." This quote shows the son is different to the father so if the spirit of god is in jesus he would have known the day and hour.
Secondly you said that i reject jesus ? umm i follow jesus more than you according to your own bible pm and ill show you how
its too long here Allah exists in the bible lmao . The problem here is ignorance you say Alllah doesn't exist ? That means the god in the bible doesn't exist ! Remember it's in Hebrew not English
God is an English word invented only in the last 1000 years. The Aramaic Name for God is.... any guesses ? :s it's Elah Don't believe me ? Go see for yourself .So Jesus is god, and he died.Yet he was resurrected . You just said god had an end and an beginning in other words true ?
correct me if i'm wrong .Remember when the apostles of jesus saw him . They thought he was resurrected like you and what did jesus reply ? "38And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39"See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." 40And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet." Jesus was reassuring them that he wasn't resurrected as a spirit . Saying look im still in flesh and bones and then he ate honeycomb and something else Why should another person suffer for my sins ? Jesus predicts something really really interesting
listen to this . Isaiah 29:13The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught."Jesus says you are worshipping me in vain based on human rules they've been taught .A prediction that has become truth because honestly if i wanted to become Christian i have no clue where the bible is . Is it the king James version or am i following a man ? Is it the new international version or am i following man ? Why are they versions , who decided that the word of the god was a mistake based on their subjective views and then they removed it when their is no original manuscript . Get my drift ? No malice intended
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Why should another person suffer for my sins ? Jesus predicts something really really interesting
The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught."Jesus says you are worshipping me in vain based on human rules they've been taught .A prediction that has become truth because honestly if i wanted to become Christian i have no clue where the bible is . Is it the king James version or am i following a man ? Is it the new international version or am i following man ? Why are they versions , who decided that the word of the god was a mistake based on their subjective views and then they removed it when their is no original manuscript . Get my drift ? No malice intended
You didn't read my post....because my post just answered this post again.
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Bryancampbell
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Why should another person suffer for my sins ? Jesus predicts something really really interesting
The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught."Jesus says you are worshipping me in vain based on human rules they've been taught .A prediction that has become truth because honestly if i wanted to become Christian i have no clue where the bible is . Is it the king James version or am i following a man ? Is it the new international version or am i following man ? Why are they versions , who decided that the word of the god was a mistake based on their subjective views and then they removed it when their is no original manuscript . Get my drift ? No malice intended
Jonah 4:11And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left—and also many animals?”
Luke 23:34Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.” And they divided up his clothes by casting lots.
Matthew 23:34Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
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Bryancampbell
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Read this: 96.Does every man sin?
(a) Yes. “There is no man who does not sin” (I Kings 8:46; see also 2 Chronicles 6:36; Proverbs 20:9;
Ecclesiastes 7:20; and I John 1:810)
(b) No. True Christians cannot possibly sin, because they are the children of God. “Every one who
believes that Jesus is the Christ is a child of God. (I John 5:1). “We should be called children of God; and
so we are” (I John 3: 1). “He who loves is born of God” (I John 4:7). “No one born of God commits sin;
for God’s nature abides in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God” (I John 3:9). But, then
again, Yes! “If we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” (I John 1:8)
http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/YaBBAttachments/101_Contradictions_In_The_Bible.pdf
Before using scripture to defend your statement prove it is the word of god by ensuring there are no contradictions
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I do not see any of the prophets or apostles mentioning "original sin" in the bible. sin is there in every human being not because of eating the fruit, but we are all sinning machines and that is the way we are created, even Adam and Eve.
A sin is " missing the mark", and adam and eve missed the mark even before eating the fruit.
Gn 3:6 . And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
Before eating, eve saw the fruit, desired for it....according to the bible that is a sin, desiring for something which is forbidden. It is a sin. So we cannot say man became sinful after eating the fruit.
Roman 8:3 says that Jesus Christ was sent in the likeness of "sinful flesh".........but we have to understand it is not the "flesh" i.e the physical body parts that sin, but the mind. It is the mind that uses the flesh to sin.
1C 6:18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body.
Ro 6:13 Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.
It is the mind that uses flesh as an instrument to sin, Jesus Christ is sinless because he did not use his body to sin. There is nothing called "original sin" in a human being. We all are created in such a way that we sin.
Jesus Christ did not sin because he was CONCEIVED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT and as the bible says he was WAXED STRONG IN SPIRIT AND GRACE OF GOD WAS WITH HIM.
Lk 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him.
the GRACE OF GOD taught Jesus Christ
Ti 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Jesus Christ came to the world as a sacrificial lamb, he was not forced to die. he gave his life for his friends. Romans and Jews hatred was just a part of God's plan. By killing Jesus Christ, they were fulfilling the plan of God, which was necessary.
Jn 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
honestly we not suppose to do anything, we suppose surrender and reject ourselves and let God come in to live that righteous life for us, and what i mean by don't question it is, if the bible said so that's it that's all we need to know and just believe it, it's the word of God and i'm sticking to every word of it without doubt, how i know that the bible is the truth? through the holy spirit, reveals all the secrets of the bible and only then can anyone know for certain what is the truth and what isn't
Disclaimer: I have not read through all the comments here, so if this is repetitive........oops!
To me though, a better question would be: "How can evil come from good?" It can't.
Mark 10:17) And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 .) And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
To me though, a better question would be: "How can evil come from good?" It can't.
Mark 10:17) And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?
18 .) And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.
look there is no other way to find out what is the truth other than faith, you truly have to thirst for it if you really wanna know what is the truth, there isn't much logical explanation to tell you what is the truth but faith and honestly if you look closely to what the bible says you would see exactly that unfolding before you, this isn't much but the bible said [h=3]Romans 2:14[/h]King James Version (KJV)Why should another person suffer for my sins ? Jesus predicts something really really interesting
The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught."Jesus says you are worshipping me in vain based on human rules they've been taught .A prediction that has become truth because honestly if i wanted to become Christian i have no clue where the bible is . Is it the king James version or am i following a man ? Is it the new international version or am i following man ? Why are they versions , who decided that the word of the god was a mistake based on their subjective views and then they removed it when their is no original manuscript . Get my drift ? No malice intended
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
and the law being talked about here is the 10 commandments, and the bible said we by nature can't help but to do the opposite of it, now take a look at this specific commandment and look at the world after 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; and the lord is Jesus christ now look at this what do you see people all around the world even different religion and even atheist do, say the lord's name in vain if something interesting or cool happens they would say Jesus christ, i know this isn't much but it's something to consider why does every single human being say that particular name? and can't help it i even got atheist friends who don't believe in God but i hear him saying the lord's name in vain everytime, hope this was kinda helpful you can research it if you want but we truly gotta fully surrender to God so the truth can be revealed of what is the truth and what isn't
Satan has decieved you... :/ you give up logic and have blind faith when the bible told you to prove all matters .Eg when a book claims to be 100% god's word prove it .1 thessalonians "Prove all things " KJV
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Jesus said that many would be persecuted unto death for following and believing on Him.
I believe and follow the actions of Jesus Christ much more than you according to your own bible.Remember it's not to my religious group that Jesus will proclaim workers of evil on the day of judgment but it is the Christians...