Is Man Capable of Translating the Bible?

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p_rehbein

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i believe this too.
then why in the name of all that's Good and Holy, namely GOD, are y'all fussing 'n' fuming about all this? (sorry Josh...your comment quoted and not his.........)

GOD IS IN CONTROL. Not man. You guys need to get together and find an alter or a nice shade tree somewhere, and kneel down and LEAVE IT AT THE CROSS!

Goodness..............anyway

Happy Thanksgiving
 
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In case you missed it p_rehbein most people posting on this thread don't believe the KJV is the inerrant word of God. They don't even believe the inerrant word of God exists today.
 

p_rehbein

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In case you missed it p_rehbein most people posting on this thread don't believe the KJV is the inerrant word of God. They don't even believe the inerrant word of God exists today.
I must have missed that.............what I've read is that people believe that the KJV is the Word of God, but SO are other translations.......but, now, I may have missed those who say that the KJV isn't God's Written Word. If so, they are wrong. If someone believes that other translations are not the Written Word of God, then they are wrong.

There are several (probably more) translations that are perfectly acceptable as the Word of God.

People need to trust that GOD IS IN CONTROL. That's all.
 
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I must have missed that.............what I've read is that people believe that the KJV is the Word of God, but SO are other translations.......but, now, I may have missed those who say that the KJV isn't God's Written Word. If so, they are wrong. If someone believes that other translations are not the Written Word of God, then they are wrong.

There are several (probably more) translations that are perfectly acceptable as the Word of God.

People need to trust that GOD IS IN CONTROL. That's all.
If they don't contradict the kjv then I would agree. I have not found another English bible that doesn't contradict the kjv though.
 

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God has graced me with a love of languages. I have read the NT in three languages, the OT in a couple. There is no problem in the translations, no great differences in meaning, and most important, they all reach our family all around the Word. English is not the language of the Holy Spirit. When we learn it is in the spirit. Anyone who comes to Jesus Christ in spirit and truth has the privilege of learning more of Him in each's own language. It is not only people in English speaking countries who have access to the Word of Yahweh, God, and they too are taught by the Holy Spirit. It is almost classist to even begin to imply that any one version of our Father's Word is the only true version. The idea is repugnant to the spirit.
 
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God has graced me with a love of languages. I have read the NT in three languages, the OT in a couple. There is no problem in the translations, no great differences in meaning, and most important, they all reach our family all around the Word. English is not the language of the Holy Spirit. When we learn it is in the spirit. Anyone who comes to Jesus Christ in spirit and truth has the privilege of learning more of Him in each's own language. It is not only people in English speaking countries who have access to the Word of Yahweh, God, and they too are taught by the Holy Spirit. It is almost classist to even begin to imply that any one version of our Father's Word is the only true version. The idea is repugnant to the spirit.
I agree 100%. God gave his word to all languages. God doesn't love any group more than another.
 
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Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2*And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
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Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2*And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3*And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4*Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5*Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6*Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7*Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8*Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9*For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10*But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11*When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12*For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13*And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
 
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The Greek Septuagint. The most popular version of the Hebrew Scriptures in the days that Jesus walked the earth was in fact a Translation of Holy Scriptures from Hebrew to Greek. The most important of the early versions of the Hebrew Scriptures, and the first actual written translation from the Hebrew, is the Greek Septuagint (meaning, “Seventy”). Its translation began about 280 B.C.E., according to tradition, by 72 Jewish scholars of Alexandria, Egypt. Later, the number 70 somehow came to be used, and thus the version was called the Septuagint. Evidently it was completed sometime in the second century B.C.E. It served as Scripture for the Greek-speaking Jews and was used extensively down to the time of Jesus and his apostles. In the Christian Greek Scriptures, most of the 320 direct quotations and the combined total of perhaps 890 quotations and references to the Hebrew Scriptures are based on the Septuagint.
 
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JauneJ, What chapter and verse in the original KJV has "horns". I have a copy of the original 1611 and would like to verify that what you are saying is true.
The sculpture of Moses was shaped with horns due to a mistake done by the Bible translator when he translated the paragraph that explains the moment when Moses came down from Mount Sinai. He made a mistake with the word Karan which means Brightness or horn. The Bible quotes that Moses' head was surrounded by some kind of halo, but the translator wrote horns instead of halo.
Why Does Moses Have Horns on His Head? - Ask.com

 
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Another misunderstanding of some words like "firmament", It means something solid, but the scholars assumed that the scriptures was referring to the "sky". The earth was once had a water layer that the earth surface had collapsed into the water (Baptize), and next the earth surface will collapse into the fiery lava layer.
 
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The sculpture of Moses was shaped with horns due to a mistake done by the Bible translator when he translated the paragraph that explains the moment when Moses came down from Mount Sinai. He made a mistake with the word Karan which means Brightness or horn. The Bible quotes that Moses' head was surrounded by some kind of halo, but the translator wrote horns instead of halo.
Why Does Moses Have Horns on His Head? - Ask.com

Don't fall for that 4enlightment, the sculpture was made with horns intentionally because the sculpture was not really of Moses, it was a sculpture of Pan - the horned god. The mystery religions inject their symbolism all throughout our culture. Check out this picture which everyone thinks is a picture of God giving life to Adam. This is actually a picture of the pineal gland in the brain giving life to Adam... opening his "third eye".



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Yes. Because they already did : )
 
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Don't fall for that 4enlightment, the sculpture was made with horns intentionally because the sculpture was not really of Moses, it was a sculpture of Pan - the horned god. The mystery religions inject their symbolism all throughout our culture. Check out this picture which everyone thinks is a picture of God giving life to Adam. This is actually a picture of the pineal gland in the brain giving life to Adam... opening his "third eye".



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Ssssssure. People can make up any old bollocks they want to believe.
 
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Look, God is dealing with imperfect people or did you miss that. However, God will protect his word. Although it was by imperfect men that translated into the KJ, His hand was over it. Isaiah said I am a man of unclean lips, yet God spoke His word through Him and all of the prophets. Moses was excluded from the promised land for his disobedience, yet God gave His law through Him and spoke through Him. He even used the heathen Pharaoh to show Himself as the one and only true God. HE will even use satan. He is God and id in control.
 
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Agricola

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Ssssssure. People can make up any old bollocks they want to believe.
Yes they do, such as trying to convince people that God decided that 17th Century English was the perfect language in all of the world through all history, then making humans wait 1600 years before providing a perfect Bible, even then instead of getting it right first time, this perfect Bible in 17th Century English has to go through 7 rewrites before its perfect... Umm yes sure.

Why would God wait 1600 years to give us correct texts, secondly dosnt this suggest that the original authors were not Inspired and did not get it right first time either? The more you look at this logic the more bollocks it is.

I still have not had a proper answer as to why Nose ring is a translation made by Satan and what his motives for making this apparent horrendous abomination of a word are, and why the word used in King James is correct with Ear ring. Genesis 24:47
 
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The bottom line is this. A mere man is not capable of translating the pure inerrant word of God. All inerrant translations whether English, Spanish, Chinese etc. were translated the same way they were originally written. Holy men of God wrote as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Amen thank you Father for preserving your word for those of us that love, cherish and hang on to every single word.
 
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Yes they do, such as trying to convince people that God decided that 17th Century English was the perfect language in all of the world through all history, then making humans wait 1600 years before providing a perfect Bible, even then instead of getting it right first time, this perfect Bible in 17th Century English has to go through 7 rewrites before its perfect... Umm yes sure.

Why would God wait 1600 years to give us correct texts, secondly dosnt this suggest that the original authors were not Inspired and did not get it right first time either? The more you look at this logic the more bollocks it is.

I still have not had a proper answer as to why Nose ring is a translation made by Satan and what his motives for making this apparent horrendous abomination of a word are, and why the word used in King James is correct with Ear ring. Genesis 24:47
I was more concerned about the so-called hidden secrets/mysteries like the pineal gland and third eye in Renaissance paintings. People can see any old bollocks if they're looking for that nonsense.
 
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I was more concerned about the so-called hidden secrets/mysteries like the pineal gland and third eye in Renaissance paintings. People can see any old bollocks if they're looking for that nonsense.
Are you saying all is coincidence? Is there really no dark forces at work to destroy the souls of men?
 
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Certainly the spiritual realm, both the godly and ungodly, interacts with creation on a regular basis but to say things like this and the Omega Code are true, is silly and the making of conspiracy theorists.