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Josh321 said:
pretty much.. i really want people to understand what i'm trying to say though and really really.. understand what the holy spirit does [video=youtube;ZOsIIaojVnE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOsIIaojVnE[/video] look at this video... this person was a drug addict he didn't want to be a drug addict but the spirit of bondage had a hold on him, so he couldn't do anything else BUT what that SPIRIT wanted him to do, now down to the main question.. WOULDN'T THE SAME THING HAPPEN WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT? This is what God did Romans 8:4

King James Version (KJV)

4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


WOULDN'T THIS HAPPEN IF SOMEONE TRULY RECEIVES THE HOLY SPIRIT? i really hope everyone takes a close look at this... i want everyone to understand
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Would this happen if someone like Paul who was FILLED with the Holy Spirit

Romans 7

14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin
 
Becuae holy and righteous is doing the right thing
and we need to grow in grace from grace to grace
we need to be sweeter
more kind
more loving
more helpful and this is daily growth
Jesus had to do it he was human everyday he grew more and developed perfect chatracter

a two year old cannot preach sermons
you have to grow into it
 
Regardless of what people say, you are not FORCED to do anything. You make a choice and you do it. The only thing that I have seen in the Bible that a demon was able to do was control the body...convulsions and the like...and, if confronted, the demon could speak, but a person listens to whichever spirit they choose and they then choose to respond and either do it or not. Once Holy Spirit resides in a person, they then have the power and freedom to refuse sin completely.

Consider life before salvation. Sometimes murderous thoughts came into your mind. Did you just blindly act on them? Of course not. Sometimes lustful thoughts came into your mind. Did you just blindly act on them? Of course not. When one has a demon, yes, they are possessed, but not the way Hollywood portrays it.

If this were the case, free will would be eliminated and God NEVER touches our free will. We always have a choice.
 
Yes Paul fought this battle daily
and he was a GOOD FIGHTER!
and yet he fought and fought and fought a good fight
 
Josh321 said:
so after seeing this... that God has fulfilled the righteousness of the law by the HOLY SPIRIT, which means no matter how we were what we use to do it doesn't matter once someone is born again they must do what the spirit wants them to do, so after seeing this why would you still tell anyone to follow something when we all must be born again with the holy spirit to actually be HOLY and RIGHTEOUS? please tell me
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Lets see has free choice been taken away ?

Can someone lose the Holy Spirit ?

What does do not grieve the Holy Spirit means ?
 
right you are not forced
but you are impressed, you can be made depressed
ever been depressed?
that is not Jesus
you can be sad
what has a christian to be sad about?
demons
they impress and they can crush but they cant make you sin
 
example
enemy can not make you sin

all your friends want to go party
you know you shouldnt
they come and plead and joke
what do you do?
They cant MAKE you come
but usually you go, knowing it is wrong
demons
 
so you do the right thing and stay home while they drive of in a porsche turbo carrera and you stay home and read the bible
ok, so are you happy?
demons

its a battle my friend
a battle with demons
 
Josh321 said:
is it true that our human flesh is the vessel for the holy spirit, and the devil immitates God anyway he can so he has demonic spirits also and when these spirits have a hold on someone, is it true that the person can only do what the SPIRIT wants them to do?
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Romans 6

16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
 
and if you know Jesus very well and you go cry in your closet and ask for his spirit he comes wave upon wave of Joy and peace and he says he loves you and he gives more spirit now
and you are happy
then the phone rings
and yo are told your friends in the careera all died in a fiery wreck

and you know God loves you...
 
before i was like this how i am now, i was a drug addict for years didn't know nothing about God church or much about the bible but look what happen to me as God saved me i had to choice but to do what the holy spirit told me to do or how to act, i had no choice but to stop coveting after woman and pray for them i had no choice but to forgive i had no choice but to love i had no choice but to stop cursing i had no choice but to stop saying the lord's name in vain, why was that? because the entire righteousness of the law was fulfilled in me and the same thing happens to everyone that does receive it, this is what i want people to understand, whatever spirit we have we must do what that spirit tells us to do and if we have the holy spirit we will exactly what the bible said the holy spirit will do
[h=3]Galatians 5:22-23[/h]King James Version (KJV)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.



[h=3]Hebrews 10:14-17[/h]King James Version (KJV)

14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.


all of this comes through the holy spirit.

 
2Thewaters said:
so you do the right thing and stay home while they drive of in a porsche turbo carrera and you stay home and read the bible
ok, so are you happy?
demons

its a battle my friend
a battle with demons
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Ephesians 6
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
 
God will never leave you or forsake you to demons
they come hundreds of times a day
once you know this, they can never ever win over you again
what I have told you is essential to fight them...'Be aware watch unto prayer and joy in the Lord.
 
good quote
yes the wiules of the evil

he has 99.9999% of the world but he doesnt have you
you can be sure all his demons are not with the wicked they are all after you...
and you can be sure OINE angel can handle them and if you are truggling we are to pray to the father in heaven to send ANOTHER ANGEL
with WTWO angels even satan himself runs...
 
Isdaniel said:
Lets see has free choice been taken away ?

Can someone lose the Holy Spirit ?

What does do not grieve the Holy Spirit means ?
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when we first receive it we feel the fullness of the spirit but after a while the feeling goes away but he is still there, that is where this comes in [h=3]Luke 9:23[/h]King James Version (KJV)

23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
 
It is the most common copout of this generation. "The devil made me do it." This is a lie. You are not MADE to do anything. You make a choice and then you do what you've ultimately decided to do, based on the voices you choose to listen to and the circumstances surrounding you.
 
Josh321 said:
before i was like this how i am now, i was a drug addict for years didn't know nothing about God church or much about the bible but look what happen to me as God saved me i had to choice but to do what the holy spirit told me to do or how to act, i had no choice but to stop coveting after woman and pray for them i had no choice but to forgive i had no choice but to love i had no choice but to stop cursing i had no choice but to stop saying the lord's name in vain, why was that? because the entire righteousness of the law was fulfilled in me and the same thing happens to everyone that does receive it, this is what i want people to understand, whatever spirit we have we must do what that spirit tells us to do and if we have the holy spirit we will exactly what the bible said the holy spirit will do
Galatians 5:22-23

King James Version (KJV)

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.



Hebrews 10:14-17

King James Version (KJV)

14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.


all of this comes through the holy spirit.
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Why do we sin hmm The Holy Spirit does not and cannot sin
 
he leaves, and when you repent he comes back into your heart
your hear tis what you are thinking about
it is up to you what you think about

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

so if youu sin you need to be BORN AGAIN
get it?
 
mystdancer50 said:
It is the most common copout of this generation. "The devil made me do it." This is a lie. You are not MADE to do anything. You make a choice and then you do what you've ultimately decided to do, based on the voices you choose to listen to and the circumstances surrounding you.
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[h=3]John 10[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
5 And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
 
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