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overcomer2

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I really liked this question. I think there are differences in these words. I know it made me ponder about the law. I see the Law as being a glass of water and it was filled up as far as it could go. Say there is this uncivilized group of people, when they eat they walk by the pot and stick there hand in and eat. Then the Lord says go and sit at a table from now on. So the people do so. But this isn't enough. They still grab the food with their hands. Now, we have (the cross), and Jesus comes. And he says not only do you sit at the table but now you use siverware. (he actually takes the Law thou shalt not commit adultry and fine tunes it and makes the way even more narrow by saying, don't even think on another woman.)

Okay, he didn't do away with the 1st Law. Now, Jesus died for your sins, past and present. However, he did not die so you could continue in sin. When you sin you break the Law, so he must find that Law valid in order that he still can say the wages of sin is death. This still applies. Some say that Grace saves and it does but Grace means that if you sin against the Law then you must repent. Grace does not work without repentance. And you cannot repent of something is you don't know what you did. So the Law is important that we know what sin is. The Law now through grace and been written on your hearts
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
so now he has filled the Law full, the cup is overflowing so he takes the cup of water(Law) and he pours it into an ocean, this way he has not done away with the Law but it is part of the Grace. So are we following the Law when we use silverware? No, we are following Christ, and being obedient to Him. In Him is the Law

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica][FONT=Arial, Helvetica]“Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”......Romans 10:4 Not the end of the law
“For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” ......Matthew 5:18

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overcomer2

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wanted to add one more verse but took to long.:)
Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Any way good thread.
 
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wanted to add one more verse but took to long.:)
Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Any way good thread.

Ever wonder why most Sunday keepers did not reply to this thread which was a very good question ?
 
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overcomer2

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Ever wonder why most Sunday keepers did not reply to this thread which was a very good question ?
Oh, I didn't notice. I'm like that. I can honestly say I don't always even read all what everyone writes. Sometimes but not always. I liked the spirit on the OP and the question.
 
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Oh, I didn't notice. I'm like that. I can honestly say I don't always even read all what everyone writes. Sometimes but not always. I liked the spirit on the OP and the question.
i dont know if the original pos t is a sunday keeper or not but but the usal persons that are against law have not responded because these veres refutes their grace nonesense
 
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overcomer2

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i dont know if the original pos t is a sunday keeper or not but but the usal persons that are against law have not responded because these veres refutes their grace nonesense
okay, well, all we can do is be a Light. The Holy Spirit must do the convicting or it is vain.
Psalm 127:1
Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

I can see your very passionate about the Lord. Be Blessed.
 
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Was woman made for the Jews alone ? nope they were not they were made for man

1 Corinthians 11:9

King James Version (KJV)

9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.


Was the sabbath made for the Jews only ? Nope the sabbath was made for man

Mark 2:27

King James Version (KJV)

27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:


lets see
Woman created after man thus woman for man
Sabbath created after man thus sabbath for man

 
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Callling all sundaykeepers to this thread to discuss your views
 
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I really liked this question. I think there are differences in these words. I know it made me ponder about the law. I see the Law as being a glass of water and it was filled up as far as it could go. Say there is this uncivilized group of people, when they eat they walk by the pot and stick there hand in and eat. Then the Lord says go and sit at a table from now on. So the people do so. But this isn't enough. They still grab the food with their hands. Now, we have (the cross), and Jesus comes. And he says not only do you sit at the table but now you use siverware. (he actually takes the Law thou shalt not commit adultry and fine tunes it and makes the way even more narrow by saying, don't even think on another woman.)

Okay, he didn't do away with the 1st Law. Now, Jesus died for your sins, past and present. However, he did not die so you could continue in sin. When you sin you break the Law, so he must find that Law valid in order that he still can say the wages of sin is death. This still applies. Some say that Grace saves and it does but Grace means that if you sin against the Law then you must repent. Grace does not work without repentance. And you cannot repent of something is you don't know what you did. So the Law is important that we know what sin is. The Law now through grace and been written on your hearts
Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
so now he has filled the Law full, the cup is overflowing so he takes the cup of water(Law) and he pours it into an ocean, this way he has not done away with the Law but it is part of the Grace. So are we following the Law when we use silverware? No, we are following Christ, and being obedient to Him. In Him is the Law

“Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”......Romans 10:4 Not the end of the law
“For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” ......Matthew 5:18

What are precepts is it the same as law ?
 

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#51
nope you said we are not to keep the precepts etc in pslam 119 Why ?
Are there any precepts in Ps 119 not kept by keeping Christ's law?

Christ's law is now written on our hearts.

Christ's law has no curse, and
replaces the Mosaic law with its curse for imperfect obedience (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10),
which has now been set aside (Heb 7:18-19).

Any law to be kept in the NT is Christ's law (Mt 22:37-39; 1Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which is written on the heart of the believer,
and which fulfills the law (Mt 2:40; Ro 13:8-10; Gal 5:6, 14).

The precepts in Ps 119 are kept when one obeys Christ's law.

You should know that.
 
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Are there any precepts in Ps 119 not kept by keeping Christ's law?

Christ's law is now written on our hearts.

Christ's law has no curse, and
replaces the Mosaic law with its curse for imperfect obedience (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10),
which has now been set aside (Heb 7:18-19).

Any law to be kept in the NT is Christ's law (Mt 22:37-39; 1Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which is written on the heart of the believer,
and which fulfills the law (Mt 2:40; Ro 13:8-10; Gal 5:6, 14).

The precepts in Ps 119 are kept when one obeys Christ's law.

You should know that.
If you disobey Crist law what happens ?
 

Elin

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If you disobey Crist law what happens ?
If an unbeliever disobeys his law, "Repent and believe!" (Mk 1:16), he dies in his sin and guilt with no redemption.

If a believer disobeys Christ's law, he confesses, repents, goes on in his new way and is forgiven.

You should know that.
 
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Is drinking Alchhol in Church wrong ? Why or Why Not ?
 

Elin

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Is drinking Alchhol in Church wrong ? Why or Why Not ?
What is this, 20 questions?

Are you talking about in the pews during a service?

No more wrong than drinking iced tea or soda pop in church.

It's not a moral matter, but a matter of appropriateness, when it comes to church.

Are you talking about the Lord's Supper?

It is not wrong to drink wine in the Lord's Supper. . .the Lord did.
 
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What is this, 20 questions?

Are you talking about in the pews during a service?

No more wrong than drinking iced tea or soda pop in church.

It's not a moral matter, but a matter of appropriateness, when it comes to church.

Are you talking about the Lord's Supper?

It is not wrong to drink wine in the Lord's Supper. . .the Lord did.


Alchohol is not given in the Lords Supper


[h=3]Leviticus 10:8-10[/h]King James Version (KJV)

8 And the Lord spake unto Aaron, saying,
9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:
10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;




all this is alcholic wine and alcohol
 

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Alchohol is not given in the Lords Supper
Are you sure about that?

I've been to churches where it was. . .'twas sweet, sweet Mogan David wine.

Leviticus 10:8-10

King James Version (KJV)
8 And the Lord spake unto Aaron, saying,
9Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou,
nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:
10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean;

all this is alcholic wine and alcohol

That was a regulation given to the High Priest and priests, not for everyone.
 
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Are you sure about that?

I've been to churches where it was. . .'twas sweet, sweet Mogan David wine.


That was a regulation given to the High Priest and priests, not for everyone.


Is this for us today ?

Was this part of Moses law ?


[h=3]Leviticus 17:12-14[/h]King James Version (KJV)

12 Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, No soul of you shall eat blood, neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood.
13 And whatsoever man there be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, which hunteth and catcheth any beast or fowl that may be eaten; he shall even pour out the blood thereof, and cover it with dust.
14 For it is the life of all flesh; the blood of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh: for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof: whosoever eateth it shall be cut off.
 
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Are you sure about that?

I've been to churches where it was. . .'twas sweet, sweet Mogan David wine.


That was a regulation given to the High Priest and priests, not for everyone.

What are pastors today are they not priest for GOD

[h=3]Malachi 2:7[/h]King James Version (KJV)

7 For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts.