Women and teaching in the church

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maxwel

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I like to take a purely practical approach to things.

Ya know, if womenfolk spent more time doting on their husbands like mindless slaves...
they just wouldn't have time for anything else.

I mean, that's sensible, right?

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women are rebellious (in nature, eve for example), thats why God left man in charge of them. nowhere in the Bible does it say women can be put in a position to be a pastor or anything of that sort.

so where do you stand on this subject, since it seems that it is debatable. i really didnt think it was.

do you feel women are ok to be pastors, or no.
I feel offended as much as i agree that women are not to be pastors because the bible says so

i think the first person to sin was a male

the stingy devil a maleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee rebelious

tooodoodoollss:)
 
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the Infinity Scarves make it ridiculously simple:)
Yeah, I hear ya. One daughter likes the blue one, the other daughters like the pink/red ones. I like the green one & the white ones.

 
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Paul was writing to a specific church and did not know that you would be reading a private letter to that church. That church was having trouble with the women. Because God directed what Paul said, we can learn from his letter, but if we don't know the people he was writing to, it is hard to know about the God principles it shows.

In Genesis it says that women are to be helpers of men, and companions. To be a leader isn't to be a ruler in the sense of a dictator, in fact a dictator makes a poor leader. If women were inferior or to be dictated to, they would make very poor companions.
in genesis 3 when eve ate the fruit, God left man in charge of women. just because man is in charge of women, doesnt make women bad companions to men. thats a poor interpretation. it clearly states men need women and women need men. but that goes without saying He left man in charge of women.

and the "letter to the church" is also a misunderstanding. God wouldnt put anything in the Bible that would confuse man. everything is clear. until you start to disagree and twisting the wording around to fit your understanding.
 
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I feel offended as much as i agree that women are not to be pastors because the bible says so

i think the first person to sin was a male

the stingy devil a maleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee rebelious

tooodoodoollss:)
satan is not a man.

adam was the 1st man made. eve was 2nd. (human)
 
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BananaPie

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I like to take a purely practical approach to things.

Ya know, if womenfolk spent more time doting on their husbands like mindless slaves...
they just wouldn't have time for anything else.

I mean, that's sensible, right?

: )
Brother, are you watching The Stepford Wives DVD again? :cool:
 

zone

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I like to take a purely practical approach to things.

Ya know, if womenfolk spent more time doting on their husbands like mindless slaves...
they just wouldn't have time for anything else.

I mean, that's sensible, right?

: )
heya Max.
you're single, aren't ya:rolleyes:
 

zone

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Yeah, I hear ya. One daughter likes the blue one, the other daughters like the pink/red ones. I like the green one & the white ones.

ya...the veils need bobbypins and stuff.
i don't do bobbypins. they get lost in my hair and show up at 3am in my ear.
:)
 
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satan is a male what are you female or male or in between not sure well the animal are sure though
you are misunderstanding again.

satan is a fallen angel. satan is not a man.

so if hes not a man, how is he the 1st man to sin?

that belongs to eve. it even says so in the Bible. but you can overlook that to fit your comfort, if thats your prerogative.

this is exactly why women are not to teach.
 

mystdancer50

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Well if the pastor give a little child the same command and the child relays it

well that makes the child a deacon also right:)
Indeed it does, based on the definition of the word.
 
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you are misunderstanding again.

satan is a fallen angel. satan is not a man.

so if hes not a man, how is he the 1st man to sin?

that belongs to eve. it even says so in the Bible. but you can overlook that to fit your comfort, if thats your prerogative.

this is exactly why women are not to teach.

Where did i say he was a man and not a male ?

animals have malesand females and that does not make them a man or woman right ?


  • Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;male and female created he them.

  • Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

  • Genesis 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
 
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mystdancer50

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Jesus said go ye into the world and preach the Gospel that is man woman child etc are all pastors because Jesus said that ?
A pastor is a shepherd over a church or a group of people. A missionary or a evangelist would fit the bill of the description above. So, all of us are called to be missionaries and evangelists. Not all of us are called to be pastors.
 

mystdancer50

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I just thought of the fact that there are many female waitresses, too. So are they deacons? And, there are women who serve the President. Are they deacons? I think that the church uses this title without fully understanding its definition. It doesn't even say that it is someone called or ordained by God. It doesn't even say that it is someone doing the will of God in God's house. So, can women be deacons? I'd say yes indeed they can.
I stand corrected here, as it does in fact state that a deacon can be in the church, assigned by the church, to work with the poor and handle the money collected for the poor, so I misspoke when I said that it doesn't involve someone doing God's will in God's house. :)
 
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did i say he was a man or a male ?

animals have males and that does not make them a man right ?

  • Genesis 1:27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him;male and female created he them.
  • Genesis 5:2Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
  • Genesis 6:19And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.
you are bouncing around.

women really should be quiet and learn when a man talks and raise hands when they have a question. their catty attitudes and nature to rebel against man is a big part of humanities downfall.

how many men lost their lives from a unruly woman.
 

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Spare the lecture DAD!

You are guilty as well, show me in the Bible what I asked...you cannot and now hide behind fear and accusations of your own, because you cannot produce it and never will.

You get mad, because I pushed the button of hypocrisy and oh how that little button exposes the truth.

Now, run along DAD and get rid of sister oh so spiritual, for she is teaching boys in sunday school...

Come to full age already.
A little common sense goes a long way with most people. If she is prohibited from speaking in the assembly by divine decree, how then would she be able to preach?
 
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Imperfectperfection: If it was that simple, why didn't the Scripture say men and women. why are the women to be quiet. its a common theme that men are to rule over women and women are to listen to the man. it was made clear in genesis that men are the rulers of women.


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Yes, I know that verse well, Genesis 3:16. And, it's horribly taken out of context giving ANY man rule over a woman, alas, just like 1 Timothy 2:11-12, people use it to their advantage over women, preaching and teaching taboos of a man by a woman .

It is difficult to understand when is a situation that a woman can become a pastor of a church but if she has become one then God has a reason for that having happened. Like mystydancing said, 'the Lord called.'

Who is to judge a woman in a pastorship role that SAYS she has been called by God???

But, green, the Scripture says she is NEVER gonna be called.

So, if there is a woman that's a pastor in the church then she became tempted by the Devil, for God does not tempt, and, she, therefore, is pastoring in sin , and, that will lead to death as James 1 says !

Really :confused:

You would take THAT kind of stance to a woman who BECOMES the next pastor of the church you are attending, would you?
Doesn't that seem the least bit extreme?


But, yes, Genesis 3:16 refers to any man ruling over any woman?

Or, is this referring to a specific twosome: a man and a woman, like MARRIED ones? :)
 
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