Women and teaching in the church

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oldhermit said:
We did not write those passages, Paul did. We are not standing in judgment of women. All we can do is repeat what the Judge has decreed. Your issue is not with us, it is with the text.
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Understand if someone says a person is biased, that doesn't necessarily mean they are purposely biased or that they are purposely ignorant. Many of us have been biased & didn't even know it. We all studied under our own denominations & their commentaries, only to find out some of their doctrine was wrong.

I propose that in this thread that we still need some "denominational debrainwashing" done to us before we can agree.

Problem is, who will humble themselves enough to say "Is it I"?

The problem has NEVER been with the text. The problem has always been with the brainwashing of the church with their "traditions of men".
 
Imperfect said:
once again, my comments go misunderstood. last time this happened, it was a slug fest.. one sided slug fest with all the christians judging and slandering me over something they completely misunderstood.. got so bad that a mod had to close it and even he saw what i was saying and how i was acting and how all of you jumped to conclusions.
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Perhaps before we go to fisticuffs, you could explain your point. I'll explain mine. You said that fellatio is lustful activity. It could be considered so outside of marriage. Outside of marriage it becomes a sin (either fornication or adultery). Within marriage it is not lustful activity any more than coitus is. God is very liberal concerning activities between a husband and a wife. There is no prohibition against fellatio inside of marriage.

Perhaps you coud explain your point of view.
 
Stephen63 said:
Understand if someone says a person is biased, that doesn't necessarily mean they are purposely biased or that they are purposely ignorant. Many of us have been biased & didn't even know it. We all studied under our own denominations & their commentaries, only to find out some of their doctrine was wrong.

I propose that in this thread that we still need some "denominational debrainwashing" done to us before we can agree.

Problem is, who will humble themselves enough to say "Is it I"?

The problem has NEVER been with the text. The problem has always been with the brainwashing of the church with their "traditions of men".
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Every man has a bias. There is also such thing as a right bias.
 
john832 said:
Perhaps before we go to fisticuffs, you could explain your point. I'll explain mine. You said that fellatio is lustful activity. It could be considered so outside of marriage. Outside of marriage it becomes a sin (either fornication or adultery). Within marriage it is not lustful activity any more than coitus is. God is very liberal concerning activities between a husband and a wife. There is no prohibition against fellatio inside of marriage.

Perhaps you coud explain your point of view.
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my point has been made several times over again, yet, people act as if i didnt just say what they said to me.

fellatio is a sin. its not a free pass to engage in the flesh outside of marriage because its not "fornication". its a sin. period. point. blank.

people must have been assuming that i think its acceptable. the question wasnt "is it acceptable". the question was, "do you consider fellatio SEX".. which i dont. but if you do, i respect that. but people dont respect that i dont think its SEX.

this is where they jumped the gun and came at me with their guns blazing like i just committed the ultimate or .... or something.. like i was the anti-christ in the flesh.

over and over again i repeated myself, and it went unheard and the judging, slandering, and insults continued to pile up.... because we didnt agree that its sex....
 
Stephen63 said:
Understand if someone says a person is biased, that doesn't necessarily mean they are purposely biased or that they are purposely ignorant. Many of us have been biased & didn't even know it. We all studied under our own denominations & their commentaries, only to find out some of their doctrine was wrong.

I propose that in this thread that we still need some "denominational debrainwashing" done to us before we can agree.

Problem is, who will humble themselves enough to say "Is it I"?

The problem has NEVER been with the text. The problem has always been with the brainwashing of the church with their "traditions of men".
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I certainly agree. The reason there are so many varied and contradictory theological stances is because people do not know how to approach this book. The Bible is not a historical or narrative document. It isn't even a liturgical document. Scripture is not just a book that addresses theology, soteriology, eschatology, or epistemology, yet, this is how people have historically approached it. The Bible is a representational document and must be understood as such.
 
Imperfect said:
you can play dumb all you want.

your cattiness is intolerable.
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Nobody has any idea what you're talking about, even the people supporting your thread.

oldhermit said:
Perhaps I am missing something here. What are you talking about?
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What's going on with you that's got everyone so confused, Imperfect?

1 Cor 14:33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
 
oldhermit said:
I certainly agree. The reason there are so many varied and contradictory theological stances is because people do not know how to approach this book. The Bible is not a historical or narrative document. It isn't even a liturgical document. Scripture is not just a book that addresses theology, soteriology, eschatology, or epistemology, yet, this is how people have historically approached it. The Bible is a representational document and must be understood as su ch.
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What does it mean women to pray with their heads covered ?
 
RuthHannah said:
What does it mean women to pray with their heads covered ?
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In the assembly, when the congregation was being directed in prayer, the women were charged to cover their heads as a recognition of submission for the man is head over the woman. Likewise, the men were commanded to pray without their heads covered remembering that they too are in submission to Christ who is the head over the Church.
 
Or perhaps start this in a new thread or private message instead of taking over with a topic unrelated to the one at hand.
 
Praus said:
Nobody has any idea what you're talking about, even the people supporting your thread.



What's going on with you that's got everyone so confused, Imperfect?

1 Cor 14:33 For God is not [the author] of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
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you sure about that.. perhaps you missed something.

anyway.. my daughter needs her hair braided. how much you charge.
 
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