Women and teaching in the church

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I think, it's important that we 'sprinkle' what we say with Love, too, His Love, we need to search for or else we will be showing a love of the world and this topic is VERY hot, so, let the Lord speak to your faith, your hope, that is in Him, and, I think, from that doing, all of us will realize that 'love' is most important, showing a love to one another in the words that we say on here, regarding women able to preach or teach in a church to men ever. Blessings to all and may His Love grow on you daily more and more and more....

Just because we disagree on an issue of doctrine, we are NOT outside of Him being Lord and Saviour of our lives :)
Green :)
:) what i was say is that The Holy Spirit cannot choose those women to be pastors because the churches you listed all have a different doctrine thus there is only one true doctrine the Holy Spirit will not choose all those people with different teachings . Will He ?

much love :)
 
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praus back at it again.. she just digging her own hole. thats not my hole shes digging.
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this is what she questions .... "who is SHE" she says.... play dumb.
 
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im done with you.

play dumb with somebody else. you wasting my time and you are looking silly in the process.
Well, I look silly then, but I still don't know who "she" is, and who "her" is so back to my original question:

Imperfect, do you even understand the difference between men and women?
 

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You do know that praus is a dude, right?
 
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kind of like when he mocks me and my name? imprefect perfection? yea i agree. people on here tend to lose themselves and begin with their insults and slanders... trust me. i would know.
No, not mocking, it is an imperfect way of thinking, in my opinion, when someone wants to make a absolute prohibition against women EVER preaching or teaching when Scripture does not say that, in any words. Paul does refer to just men being the 'husband of one wife' for being 'overseer,' but, that's still not saying directly that God cannot CALL a woman to pastor a church EVER.

That person thinks their way of believing is PERFECT, but ,no, it's VERY imperfect .

Hopefully, people understand that I am not saying that it's BEST that a woman pastors a church but I'm saying that God is perfect and He knows exactly what He's doing. Who am I to question the thousands of women pastors in churches today who are leading churches that ARE producing good fruit.

And, the bottom line is what? To lead others to Christ. That is what someone who comes into a church is wanted by the congregation. Right :) So simple. John 3:16 , it's on my avatar. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him shall NOT perish but have eternal life.' :)

Only 'believe,' and, again, sure, there's more to the salvation than just mere belief. Right? Even the Devil believes in Christ, but, by grace, through faith, that is not of our own doing, just like our being saved is not of our own doing, we have NO distinction of being better than another as far as being saved goes ,we simply have the 'measured' faith God has given us all according to His will for our life, His CALL on our life, too , including that call of a woman using her FAITH to become a pastor in a church, and, that comes by God's GRACE :)

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ruthhannahHis: :) what i was say is that The Holy Spirit cannot choose those women to be pastors because the churches you listed all have a different doctrine thus there is only one true doctrine the Holy Spirit will not choose all those people with different teachings . Will He ?
Much love, too, from Him.

Again, I don't question the fruit of God and how He works His Holy Spirit to reveal His Truth in another for how He wants to lead their lives, and, in so doing, produce fruit in a church that wasn't there before a woman pastor became in charge of the sheep of that given church.
Yes, we are of one God and sound doctrine is what He preaches and teaches to all :)
 
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Rachel20

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Hey GreenNnice I can't help notice you kind of use everyone's names in this cute manner. It's really funny.

And you're always very genteel in your posts.

Can you please give me a name?

I find my chatname sorta boring. :p
 
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the he sure comes off very catty. thats something he will have to work on.
After hundreds of posts we find out that the OP can't even tell the difference between men and women.
 
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After hundreds of posts we find out that the OP can't even tell the difference between men and women.
Praus you've changed...


I uh... like what you did with your hair?



*runs away screaming*
 

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why does he say it is a shame for a woman to pray or prophesy without her head coverd and he does not condem her not to prophesy nor pray likewise if the same principle applies to men
Let's look at the context of chapter 14 beginning with verse 23. Paul is discussing prophesying and speaking in tongues in the assembly.

23Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad? 24But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an ungifted man enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all; 25the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you. 26What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. 29Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. 30But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. 31For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; 32and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints. 34The women are to keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but are to subject themselves, just as the Law also says. 35If they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church. 36Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only? 37If anyone thinksheis a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized. 39Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner.

Notice - the occasion is if the whole church assembles together. The anyone of verse 27 is qualified by the he of verse 28. This instruction is given to all the churches of the saints. In the context of the prophesying and tongues, The women are to keep silent and are not permitted to speak. Their subjection is to be self imposed - subject themselves. Clarification for whatever questions they may have is to be addressed at home. Why? Because it is improper for a woman to speak in church.
 
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Yes they teach children's classes.
Leading singing is a leadership role. This is not permitted.
* Wonders how his church explains Miriam leading the women in singing, dancing, & worshipping God after crossing the Red Sea*;):p
 

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* Wonders how his church explains Miriam leading the women in singing, dancing, & worshipping God after crossing the Red Sea*;):p
Two questions:
1. What does this have to do with how women are commanded to conduct themselves in the assembly of the Church?
2. Does the example of Miriam somehow render the prohibition of 1Cor, 14 and 2Tim 2 null and void?
 
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* Wonders how his church explains Miriam leading the women in singing, dancing, & worshipping God after crossing the Red Sea*;):p
Has its own page on Wiki :) -> Song of the sea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exod 15:20-21 ¶ And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances. And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.
 

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Hey GreenNnice I can't help notice you kind of use everyone's names in this cute manner. It's really funny.

And you're always very genteel in your posts.

Can you please give me a name?

I find my chatname sorta boring. :p
Sweet! :) Me too! (If you already did, and I missed it, I'm sorry.)
 
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Two questions:
1. What does this have to do with how women are commanded to conduct themselves in the assembly of the Church?
2. Does the example of Miriam somehow render the prohibition of 1Cor, 14 and 2Tim 2 null and void?

Why are persons both men and women not permiited to testify what good thing the Lord has done for them ?

Is ther any biblical reason for that ?

Thankies
 
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Imperfect, we are all perfect as we are, to Christ, with His Spirit in us, we are imputed the righteousness of Christ, that's perfect, isn't it ? That's why I named you 'imperfectperfection,' it was NOT to mock you in any way, shape, or, form, brother :)
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Originally posted by Rachel20:
Hey GreenNnice I can't help notice you kind of use everyone's names in this cute manner. It's really funny.

And you're always very genteel in your posts.

Can you please give me a name?

I find my chatname sorta boring. :p
Yeah, i've not said anything directly to you on here, milady, but your insight is grand and glorious, from Him, the Lord leads, His Spirit, I see in you, rachelHislady :)
 
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