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PlainWord

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God placed a tree to guard the tree of life hmmm or as you say Jesus but Jesus left Heaven How is that possible are you for real to believe this serpent seed folly
Moses struck the rock twice and disobeyed God, did God curse the earth over it? Is God not consistent and just?

Why do you think Idolatry (worshiping something other than God) is often associated with adultery and fornication throughout the Bible? As I've said repeatedly now, if you want to buy the apple story, go ahead. I am not trying to change anyone's mind. I stated my belief concerning this, you don't have to like it but I firmly believe Eve slept with Satan and that Cain was not Adam's son.

If Cain were the son of Adam, don't you think he would be listed in Adam's genealogy? If you were to respond saying God took him out of Adam's genealogy because Cain murdered Abel, then you would be inventing something that isn't taught.

My theory attempts to explain these problems. Another problem is who did Cain marry? When Cain got to the land of Nod, who was there to marry? Did he have a sister who was also excommunicated from Adam's family? If so, this is not taught. Ever wonder about that?

16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son--Enoch.

While we are on the topic, where did all the races come from? Does the Bible say???
 
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God placed a tree to guard the tree of life hmmm or as you say Jesus but Jesus left Heaven How is that possible are you for real to believe this serpent seed folly
You and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but it's okay if we disagree here. I want you to know also that I enjoy a good debate and I try to not personalize things or put people down so this discussion, from my prospective is good clean fun. Okay?

As for the Tree of Life. Obviously it is not a normal run-of-the-mill tree. It was in the Garden of Eden, now some 7,000 years later it is seen in heaven where it will apparently grow and live forever. No normal tree lives that long or can travel, right?

What do we know about this Tree of Life?

22 Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"--

Who is the Us mentioned here? Did God mention being with someone else? Also, what are we taught is the only way to everlasting life? Is it a tree or is it through Jesus?

The ways of Satan are perverted.

The ways of Jesus are righteous.

Therefore "eating of the fruit" would have a different meaning for each.

Before "eating of the fruit" of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed, Gen 2:25. Immediately upon eating from the tree they became aware of their nakedness and were ashamed, Gen 3:7,10.

How does eating a piece of fruit equate to being ashamed of being naked?
Why does God place an enmity (separation) between Satan's seed and Eve's seed?
Why is Cain not listed in Adam's genealogy?
What made Cain bad?
What made Abel good?
Why did God not like Cain's sacrifice?
Why did Cain kill Abel?

Cain didn't know there was anything wrong with his sacrifice until God told him. From the text we are lead to believe Cain fully expected God to be pleased with his offering. Cain was devastated that his offering wasn't accepted but there's more to the story...

5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.

6 So the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?

7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."

Notice in 4:5 that it wasn't only Cain's offering that God didn't like. The text says "He (God) did not respect Cain" either. So God had no respect for Cain BEFORE we are taught Cain did anything wrong. Hmmm. I wonder why??
 
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I love how some people can read what someone writes and twist the whole thing then attempt to belittle the author. I said Satan may have slept with Adam and Eve which resulted in Satan being the father of Cain. I did NOT say Satan slept with everyone's mothers ---- so good grief to you!!!

Perhaps you have a better theory as to why God would immediately put an enmity between Eve's seed and Satan's seed and why Cain is not listed in the genealogy of Adam. If you have some thoughts on this, please share.
Speaking of "twisting," :) I didn't say YOU did.......I used an example from Scripture to show that the "line of reasoning" you were using to determine that the devil had sex with Eve was incorrect............ :)

Now, I went back and reread the story of Adam and Eve, and I can't find the scripture that says "and the serpent had sex with Eve, and she begat Cain." Could you show this one to me?

Adam was punished for his disobedience of God. Eve was punished for her disobedience of God, and the serpent didn't fare too well either.............BUT there is no Biblical reason to assume from this that the serpent had sex with Eve.........

and that surely deserves a "good grief" in my opinion.

Goodness............
 
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You and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but it's okay if we disagree here. I want you to know also that I enjoy a good debate and I try to not personalize things or put people down so this discussion, from my prospective is good clean fun. Okay?

As for the Tree of Life. Obviously it is not a normal run-of-the-mill tree. It was in the Garden of Eden, now some 7,000 years later it is seen in heaven where it will apparently grow and live forever. No normal tree lives that long or can travel, right?

What do we know about this Tree of Life?

22 Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"--

Who is the Us mentioned here? Did God mention being with someone else? Also, what are we taught is the only way to everlasting life? Is it a tree or is it through Jesus?

The ways of Satan are perverted.

The ways of Jesus are righteous.

Therefore "eating of the fruit" would have a different meaning for each.

Before "eating of the fruit" of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed, Gen 2:25. Immediately upon eating from the tree they became aware of their nakedness and were ashamed, Gen 3:7,10.

How does eating a piece of fruit equate to being ashamed of being naked?
Why does God place an enmity (separation) between Satan's seed and Eve's seed?
Why is Cain not listed in Adam's genealogy?
What made Cain bad?
What made Abel good?
Why did God not like Cain's sacrifice?
Why did Cain kill Abel?

Cain didn't know there was anything wrong with his sacrifice until God told him. From the text we are lead to believe Cain fully expected God to be pleased with his offering. Cain was devastated that his offering wasn't accepted but there's more to the story...

5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.

6 So the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?

7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."

Notice in 4:5 that it wasn't only Cain's offering that God didn't like. The text says "He (God) did not respect Cain" either. So God had no respect for Cain BEFORE we are taught Cain did anything wrong. Hmmm. I wonder why??

Wg\here do you think the Garden of Eden is right now ? I hear you mentioned heaven
 
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You and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but it's okay if we disagree here. I want you to know also that I enjoy a good debate and I try to not personalize things or put people down so this discussion, from my prospective is good clean fun. Okay?

As for the Tree of Life. Obviously it is not a normal run-of-the-mill tree. It was in the Garden of Eden, now some 7,000 years later it is seen in heaven where it will apparently grow and live forever. No normal tree lives that long or can travel, right?

What do we know about this Tree of Life?

22 Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"--

Who is the Us mentioned here? Did God mention being with someone else? Also, what are we taught is the only way to everlasting life? Is it a tree or is it through Jesus?

The ways of Satan are perverted.

The ways of Jesus are righteous.

Therefore "eating of the fruit" would have a different meaning for each.

Before "eating of the fruit" of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed, Gen 2:25. Immediately upon eating from the tree they became aware of their nakedness and were ashamed, Gen 3:7,10.

How does eating a piece of fruit equate to being ashamed of being naked?
Why does God place an enmity (separation) between Satan's seed and Eve's seed?
Why is Cain not listed in Adam's genealogy?
What made Cain bad?
What made Abel good?
Why did God not like Cain's sacrifice?
Why did Cain kill Abel?

Cain didn't know there was anything wrong with his sacrifice until God told him. From the text we are lead to believe Cain fully expected God to be pleased with his offering. Cain was devastated that his offering wasn't accepted but there's more to the story...

5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.

6 So the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?

7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."

Notice in 4:5 that it wasn't only Cain's offering that God didn't like. The text says "He (God) did not respect Cain" either. So God had no respect for Cain BEFORE we are taught Cain did anything wrong. Hmmm. I wonder why??

What is the Hidden Manna spoken about in rrevelation ?
 
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You and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but it's okay if we disagree here. I want you to know also that I enjoy a good debate and I try to not personalize things or put people down so this discussion, from my prospective is good clean fun. Okay?

As for the Tree of Life. Obviously it is not a normal run-of-the-mill tree. It was in the Garden of Eden, now some 7,000 years later it is seen in heaven where it will apparently grow and live forever. No normal tree lives that long or can travel, right?

What do we know about this Tree of Life?

22 Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"--

Who is the Us mentioned here? Did God mention being with someone else? Also, what are we taught is the only way to everlasting life? Is it a tree or is it through Jesus?

The ways of Satan are perverted.

The ways of Jesus are righteous.

Therefore "eating of the fruit" would have a different meaning for each.

Before "eating of the fruit" of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed, Gen 2:25. Immediately upon eating from the tree they became aware of their nakedness and were ashamed, Gen 3:7,10.

How does eating a piece of fruit equate to being ashamed of being naked?
Why does God place an enmity (separation) between Satan's seed and Eve's seed?
Why is Cain not listed in Adam's genealogy?
What made Cain bad?
What made Abel good?
Why did God not like Cain's sacrifice?
Why did Cain kill Abel?

Cain didn't know there was anything wrong with his sacrifice until God told him. From the text we are lead to believe Cain fully expected God to be pleased with his offering. Cain was devastated that his offering wasn't accepted but there's more to the story...

5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.

6 So the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?

7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."

Notice in 4:5 that it wasn't only Cain's offering that God didn't like. The text says "He (God) did not respect Cain" either. So God had no respect for Cain BEFORE we are taught Cain did anything wrong. Hmmm. I wonder why??

Where in the bible says the tree of life is in heaven please provide scriptures
 

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Genesis 3:1) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
2 .) And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3 .) But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
4 .) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
5 .) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
6 .) And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
7 .) And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons..................
11) And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?
12 .) And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
13 .) And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
14 .) And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 .) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
16 .) Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
17 .) And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
18 .) Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
19 .) In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

beguile [bɪˈgaɪl]vb -guiles, -guiling, -guiled (tr)1. to charm; fascinate
2. to delude; influence by slyness
3. (often foll by of or out of) to deprive (someone) of something by trickery; cheat (someone) of
4. to pass pleasantly; while awaybeguilement n
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You and I see eye-to-eye on a lot of things but it's okay if we disagree here. I want you to know also that I enjoy a good debate and I try to not personalize things or put people down so this discussion, from my prospective is good clean fun. Okay?

As for the Tree of Life. Obviously it is not a normal run-of-the-mill tree. It was in the Garden of Eden, now some 7,000 years later it is seen in heaven where it will apparently grow and live forever. No normal tree lives that long or can travel, right?

What do we know about this Tree of Life?

22 Then the Lord God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever"--

Who is the Us mentioned here? Did God mention being with someone else? Also, what are we taught is the only way to everlasting life? Is it a tree or is it through Jesus?

The ways of Satan are perverted.

The ways of Jesus are righteous.

Therefore "eating of the fruit" would have a different meaning for each.

Before "eating of the fruit" of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed, Gen 2:25. Immediately upon eating from the tree they became aware of their nakedness and were ashamed, Gen 3:7,10.

How does eating a piece of fruit equate to being ashamed of being naked?
Why does God place an enmity (separation) between Satan's seed and Eve's seed?
Why is Cain not listed in Adam's genealogy?
What made Cain bad?
What made Abel good?
Why did God not like Cain's sacrifice?
Why did Cain kill Abel?

Cain didn't know there was anything wrong with his sacrifice until God told him. From the text we are lead to believe Cain fully expected God to be pleased with his offering. Cain was devastated that his offering wasn't accepted but there's more to the story...

5 but He did not respect Cain and his offering. And Cain was very angry, and his countenance fell.

6 So the Lord said to Cain, "Why are you angry? And why has your countenance fallen?

7 If you do well, will you not be accepted? And if you do not do well, sin lies at the door. And its desire is for you, but you should rule over it."

Notice in 4:5 that it wasn't only Cain's offering that God didn't like. The text says "He (God) did not respect Cain" either. So God had no respect for Cain BEFORE we are taught Cain did anything wrong. Hmmm. I wonder why??
What made Essau bad ?
 
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Moses struck the rock twice and disobeyed God, did God curse the earth over it? Is God not consistent and just?

Why do you think Idolatry (worshiping something other than God) is often associated with adultery and fornication throughout the Bible? As I've said repeatedly now, if you want to buy the apple story, go ahead. I am not trying to change anyone's mind. I stated my belief concerning this, you don't have to like it but I firmly believe Eve slept with Satan and that Cain was not Adam's son.

If Cain were the son of Adam, don't you think he would be listed in Adam's genealogy? If you were to respond saying God took him out of Adam's genealogy because Cain murdered Abel, then you would be inventing something that isn't taught.

My theory attempts to explain these problems. Another problem is who did Cain marry? When Cain got to the land of Nod, who was there to marry? Did he have a sister who was also excommunicated from Adam's family? If so, this is not taught. Ever wonder about that?

16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son--Enoch.

While we are on the topic, where did all the races come from? Does the Bible say???

Was Jesus to come through the seed of Cain hmmm where is the other geneologies of all Adam Children including the other males that are not mentioned by name
 
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Moses struck the rock twice and disobeyed God, did God curse the earth over it? Is God not consistent and just?

Why do you think Idolatry (worshiping something other than God) is often associated with adultery and fornication throughout the Bible? As I've said repeatedly now, if you want to buy the apple story, go ahead. I am not trying to change anyone's mind. I stated my belief concerning this, you don't have to like it but I firmly believe Eve slept with Satan and that Cain was not Adam's son.

If Cain were the son of Adam, don't you think he would be listed in Adam's genealogy? If you were to respond saying God took him out of Adam's genealogy because Cain murdered Abel, then you would be inventing something that isn't taught.

My theory attempts to explain these problems. Another problem is who did Cain marry? When Cain got to the land of Nod, who was there to marry? Did he have a sister who was also excommunicated from Adam's family? If so, this is not taught. Ever wonder about that?

16 Then Cain went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod on the east of Eden.

17 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bore Enoch. And he built a city, and called the name of the city after the name of his son--Enoch.

While we are on the topic, where did all the races come from? Does the Bible say???
let me ask yoou this simple but complicated question


Who is Cain refereing to here that will find him to slay him ? Where these people come from


Genesis 4
9 And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?
10 And he said, What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother's blood crieth unto me from the ground.
11 And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother's blood from thy hand;
12 When thou tillest the ground, it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength; a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.
13 And Cain said unto the Lord, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
14 Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
15 And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
 
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MATTHEW 13

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Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

1 John 3:12

Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.


How do the bad seed or tares come into being today ? Does the devil have sex with these people parents ?


 
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I love it when posters ignore actual arguments to their theories that they cant answer and still twist to fit their diseased doctrine.
Some are not even willing to admit to themselves that they could be mistaken and will not even consider another person's input or ideas. I guess they feel that would make them less than perfect...like the rest of us.
 

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Dear Shrimp.

You have to read things exactly as they are written. Quoting the verse you cited above, do you see that the tree of life and the tree of knowledge of good an evil were already in the garden? Notice the semicolon?



You are right, God is NOT a liar, but He uses symbolism all the time. For example, do we really drink the blood of Jesus and eat His flesh or are we using crackers and wine or grape juice to symbolize?

Rev 17:

5 And on her forehead a name was written: MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Do you see this entity as the Top Madam of the world in a literal sense or does this represent all Idol worship and sin?

Jesus is referred to as the Tree of Life. He is also referred to as "THE WORD." Jesus is also called a LAMB. Jesus is also called, the Way, the Truth and the Life." He is AKA the Bread of Life. See what I mean????



You are correct, sometimes the story is more clearly told. My example about Ham sleeping with his mother is more germane as you have Moses telling it just a few chapters apart.

I am not offended by theory, I like our discussion. I never assumed that you were presenting it as fact, please don't think am or do. I'm sorry I haven't responded sooner, I needed to spend time with my family. If either of us gets upset we can just say we need a break, take a deep breath, and come back when we're ready. Discussions with anger aren't healthy discussions they are arguments. I'm not here to angrily argue and I don't think you are either.
So:

First, I would like to point out that, Moses did not use symbolism anywhere to write Genesis, It would have been inconsistant for him to do so. I honestly cannot provide scripture for that as it make this much longer than it has to be. Just read through Genesis, Moses consistently tells it like it is, or was. Otherwise people could just say that creation was just symbolism and so was the flood, etc.

Second, Revelation is loaded with symbolism. It was also written by John, not Moses.
[h=3]Revelation 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.



Third, Speaking in the natural about conception, baring children, and giving birth. If your theory is correct and Satan did get Eve pregnant, It would not be possible for Adam to have gotten her pregnant again while she was already pregnant. You see, when a woman gets pregnant her body makes a mucus plug that blocks the entrance to the uterus, thus negating any sperm infiltration. How do I know? I have a six month old and you learn a lot in a short period of time. lol

As for the genealogy, Cain was not in it because he was cast away and, basically, cursed by God Because he killed his brother. He became an outcast, a rouge. And as you said Abel was not counted because he died and didn't have kids. Seth lived long enough and did what he was supposed to in order to stay in the family line.

25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.
26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.


 

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Speaking of "twisting," :) I didn't say YOU did.......I used an example from Scripture to show that the "line of reasoning" you were using to determine that the devil had sex with Eve was incorrect............ :)

Now, I went back and reread the story of Adam and Eve, and I can't find the scripture that says "and the serpent had sex with Eve, and she begat Cain." Could you show this one to me?

Adam was punished for his disobedience of God. Eve was punished for her disobedience of God, and the serpent didn't fare too well either.............BUT there is no Biblical reason to assume from this that the serpent had sex with Eve.........

and that surely deserves a "good grief" in my opinion.

Goodness............
Go back and read post #9. I lay the case out for all to see. If you aren't convinced, that's fine. You are free to believe as you wish as am I. I don't think it would be in character for God to come right out and say Adam, Eve and Satan had a menage or orgy, do you? Sometimes you have to read between the lines.

We know for a fact that Satan's fallen angels were sleeping with women and creating giants. I assume you can accept this without problem but cannot accept that Satan would do anything as evil as to seduce Eve. That to you apparently is too low for even Satan to stoop, right? I mean after all, Satan has some sense of decency and good decorum, right???

Good grief, I offended Satan and his sense of propriety. He would never attempt to corrupt God's creation. How silly of me to even think that for a moment.
 
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Go back and read post #9. I lay the case out for all to see. If you aren't convinced, that's fine. You are free to believe as you wish as am I. I don't think it would be in character for God to come right out and say Adam, Eve and Satan had a menage or orgy, do you? Sometimes you have to read between the lines.

We know for a fact that Satan's fallen angels were sleeping with women and creating giants. I assume you can accept this without problem but cannot accept that Satan would do anything as evil as to seduce Eve. That to you apparently is too low for even Satan to stoop, right? I mean after all, Satan has some sense of decency and good decorum, right???

Good grief, I offended Satan and his sense of propriety. He would never attempt to corrupt God's creation. How silly of me to even think that for a moment.
.So cain was a giant now that is what you are saying ?
 

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Where in the bible says the tree of life is in heaven please provide scriptures
You quoted it earlier.

[h=4]Revelation 22:2 NKJV[/h] In the middle of its street, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life, which bore twelve fruits, each tree yielding its fruit every month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
 

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Jude:

6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;

7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


Satan would never do what his fallen angels have done. He's too good for that.
 
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Dear PlainWord what is taking so long for you to answer these question

Where in the bible says the tree of life is in heaven ?
Who was Esau father ?
Why did Cain say least someone found him to kil him ?
Where did those people come from ?
Why are not all the other genologies of Adam and Eve other children not mentioned ?
 
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Jude:

6 And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;

7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


Satan would never do what his fallen angels have done. He's too good for that.
Please explain thyself ?

Who cause men to have sex with each other likewise women and animals hmmmdo children born out of that