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Yet, i keep hearing how it means to do away with.



Got some scripture for this? I see in Mat 5, 6 and 7 where He made thoughts and intents much more binding.




And yet we read...

Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

Jesus Christ taught that hate in the heart violated the sixth Commandment.
What is ironic is that she has the correct meaning yet donot follow it
 
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Psalm 119

King James Version (KJV)

1 Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the Lord.
2 Blessed are they that keep his testimonies, and that seek him with the whole heart.
3 They also do no iniquity: they walk in his ways.
4 Thou hast commanded us to keep thy precepts diligently.
5 O that my ways were directed to keep thy statutes!
6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
7 I will praise thee with uprightness of heart, when I shall have learned thy righteous judgments.
8 I will keep thy statutes: O forsake me not utterly.
9 Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.

Hi everyone i am fairly new to CC and my time here has been fun .

I have learnt alot and was reading this Psalm I find these words in red repeated over and over again.

Can anyone help in stating what are They ?

Is there a difference or are the same ?

Do we have to keep them in the new testatment ? Why or Why not ?

Thanks alot

bless
Psalm 119 is the longest book of the Bible,
and every verse in it refers to.......the Bible.
 
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He magnified the law by saying that to hate in the heart is murder not just the outward act or the letter of the law
Depends on what you think is the meaning of making great and glorious.

I think it means Jesus redeeming sinners from the wrath of God (Ro 5:9) according to it.

not just the outward act or the letter of the law
A little house cleaning. . .

There is no "letter of the law" in the NT.

There is only "the letter," which is the law.

The NT does not set the "letter" (law) against the "law," nor against the (Holy) "Spirit." (2Co 3:6)
 

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Depends on what you think is the meaning of making great and glorious.

I think it means Jesus redeeming sinners from the wrath of God (Ro 5:9) according to it.
I think it means they all fly away in a space shuttle. See, I can post crazy opinions also.
 
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Elin said:
Not all of these (regarding moral laws) are correct either; e.g., 6, 8, 10
please proof it

The law of god is not bondage and is liberty as long as you walk in it
The NT states otherwise:

". . .some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ,
that they might bring us into bondage." (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-14)
 
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The NT states otherwise:

". . .some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ,
that they might bring us into bondage." (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-14)


Which law is this God law or the ceremonila law because i stated what law this was in the earlier post
 
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hello elin are you there hmmm truth caught a hold on you hmmm
No, my quitting time caught a hold on me.

God spoke the ten to all isarael and then spoke to Moses the other precepts and
Moses spoke these to them because the peolpe feared hmmmmm
Agreed.

My offer is to explain three ceremonial laws. . .take it or leave it.

I will be the one to decide if I do anything else, as well as what it would be.
 
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The NT states otherwise:

". . .some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ,
that they might bring us into bondage." (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-14)

The ten commandments are the law of liberty not bondage

  • James 1:25But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
  • James 2:12So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
 
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The NT states otherwise:

". . .some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ,
that they might bring us into bondage." (Gal 2:4, 5:1, 13-14)

what was paul talking about let see ok


[h=3]Galatians 2[/h]King James Version (KJV)

2 Then fourteen years after I went up again to Jerusalem with Barnabas, and took Titus with me also.
2 And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain.
3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:
4 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:


In Jesus we no longer have to circumcise the forskin that is what Paul was talking about

If it was the ten the we will have to conclude he was talking about honouring your parents is to bring you into bondage then that will not make sense will it

 
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Ask you self this why did God write the ten commandment on stone twice
Twice because Moses destroyed the first ones.

the only thing writen with the figer of God why
Actually, it is not the only thing written with the "finger of God."

Compare parallel verses of Mt 12:28 and Lk 11:20 to see that the "finger of God" is the Holy Spirit.

It is a foreshadow of the Holy Spirit writing the law on hearts in the New Covenant (Jer 31:33),

as the ceremonial laws were a foreshadow of the Son.
 
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No, my quitting time caught a hold on me.


Agreed.

My offer is to explain three ceremonial laws. . .take it or leave it.

I will be the one to decide if I do anything else, as well as what it would be.

you go for it i am listening

you have the ball
 
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Actually, it is not the only thing written with the "finger of God."

Compare parallel verses of Mt 12:28 and Lk 11:20 to see that the "finger of God" is the Holy Spirit.

It is a foreshadow of the Holy Spirit writing the law on hearts in the New Covenant (Jer 31:33),

as the ceremonial laws were a foreshadow of the Son.

What are you saying its the same law the ten coomanments written in our hears in the new
 
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Elin i humbly wait your reply truth cannot and will not lie

Exodus 34 King James Version (KJV)

1 And the Lord said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.
Reply submitted immediately above.
 
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Still waiting Elin the truth always shine forth hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i was sure you said you had the proof I was wron why so hesitant to post what you was sure about
'Twas past my quittin' time.
 
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Twice because Moses destroyed the first ones.


Actually, it is not the only thing written with the "finger of God."

Compare parallel verses of Mt 12:28 and Lk 11:20 to see that the "finger of God" is the Holy Spirit.

It is a foreshadow of the Holy Spirit writing the law on hearts in the New Covenant (Jer 31:33),

as the ceremonial laws were a foreshadow of the Son.
[h=3]2 Corinthians 3[/h]King James Version (KJV)

3 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

Metaphorically speaking yes but the Holy Spirit is not the finger of God literaly

The bible talks about the right hand of God is Jesus but which spiritually speaking but God does have aliteral right hand

 

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Twice because Moses destroyed the first ones.


Actually, it is not the only thing written with the "finger of God."

Compare parallel verses of Mt 12:28 and Lk 11:20 to see that the "finger of God" is the Holy Spirit.

It is a foreshadow of the Holy Spirit writing the law on hearts in the New Covenant (Jer 31:33),

as the ceremonial laws were a foreshadow of the Son.
Obfuscation. The only account ever given in the entire Bible of God writing something with His finger is the writing of the Ten Commandments in stone.
 
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Which law is this God law or the ceremonila law because i stated what law this was in the earlier post
Circumcisions and going back to animal sacrifices were the issues of bondage
[h=3]Acts 15[/h]King James Version (KJV)

1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
2 When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
3 And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
4 And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
5 But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
6 And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
8 And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
9 And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.



Not the ten commandments but circumcision which had nothing to do with the ten commandments
 
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Obfuscation. The only account ever given in the entire Bible of God writing something with His finger is the writing of the Ten Commandments in stone.

well said interesting is it that many cannot see this simple truth

the word of God which he allowed Holy men to write last forever hmmm imagine how long something will last that God Himself wrote
 
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Elin said:
Biblically, to magnify is to make great and glorious.

That he did by living by, and then dying by it to ransom our redemption.
Got some scripture for this?
He lived by it--Lk 4:17-21; Mt 8:16-17, 11:2-5.

He died by it to ransom sinners--Lk 18:31; Mk 8:31, 9:31, 10:33-34; Mt 26:24; Lk 22:37; Mt 26:53-54, 55-56.

And yet we read...

Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

Jesus Christ taught that hate in the heart violated the sixth Commandment
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Agreed. . .which is why he taught that love fulfills the whole law (Mt 22:37-40).

What part of this do you not understand, or. . .is it unbelief?