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To PlainWord

You say Jesus is the tree of Life right

So Eve hadsex with the treeof Knowledge of good and evil aka the devil

Ok Eve is Adam wife so therfore Eve comitted adultry

Next God said least she EAT of the TREE OF LIFE aka Jesus hmmm or least Evehad sex with Jesus is that what you are sayin

Hmm EAT right

you se this rediculous theory you have ou better repent of this wicked folly tou are try to promote

again your theory should be

EAT

Eve eat or had sex with the devil

Eve would have EAT out of the tree of life or had sex with sex with Jesus hmm you are also saying Adam would have to
hmmm God never created homos hmmm

This theory is pure evil EVILLLLLLLLLLLLL I SAY


APPLY YOUR EAT = sex theory right through the story and see if it makes sense

you are implying that Eve would have slept with Jesus

Wattt nonsense
 
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I am not adding to the WORDS!!!!!! I am proposing a theory!!!! Have you ever proposed a Biblical theory???


I am not stating that this is fact. All I've done is point out some very interesting things back in Post 99 that seem to suggest a lot more than a piece of fruit was involved.

Nobody has given me a reasonable explanation for the 11 points I made that support the Apple version over the version I proposed. I'm waiting!!!

As for Satan having children today. IDK. The False Prophet is human, He is Pope Francis. But is he the child of Satan? You tell me. The False Messiah will also be human. Is he the child of Satan??? IDK but clearly both are doing Satan's work and I think they are well aware of it.

So adam and eve had sex with the other trees as well hmmm Eat right
 

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I am not adding to the WORDS!!!!!! I am proposing a theory!!!! Have you ever proposed a Biblical theory???


I am not stating that this is fact. All I've done is point out some very interesting things back in Post 99 that seem to suggest a lot more than a piece of fruit was involved.

Nobody has given me a reasonable explanation for the 11 points I made that support the Apple version over the version I proposed. I'm waiting!!!

As for Satan having children today. IDK. The False Prophet is human, He is Pope Francis. But is he the child of Satan? You tell me. The False Messiah will also be human. Is he the child of Satan??? IDK but clearly both are doing Satan's work and I think they are well aware of it.
I disagree. I think people have given you AMPLE reasonable explanations, but you're choosing to disregard them, which is your prerogative, of course, but don't say that no one has supplied any when the proof is all throughout this thread that they have, in fact, done so.
 

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Have you ever seen or heard of a literal tree that gives you knowledge of anything if you eat it? It must be a special tree, wouldn't you say??? Same with the Tree of Life, have you ever heard of a tree that gives you eternal life? So clearly, these are not literal trees, they are special trees. Therefore the fruit of these trees are not literal fruit but "special" fruit. Are we all in agreement over this?
Have you seen the Garden of Eden? Nope. Have you seen the storehouses in heaven? Nope. Doesn't mean they don't exist. Beware mocking God. He can create a tree with the knowledge of good and evil. Why? Because He's God.

Eden is blocked to us. So no, I haven't seen these trees. Why? Because God has sealed off Eden after He cast Adam and Eve out from eating from the tree. Then He put angels guarding the garden. So no one can see or touch or eat from these trees.

How do I know this? Because the Bible plainly states it. You either believe what is written in His word or you don't. But to question God...dangerous ground. I recommend you read the last few chapters of Job and see what comes from thinking you have 'seen it all' and 'heard it all' and believe that you know all there is to know about God.
 

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Ah ha, I knew someone was going to make this argument. Let me show you why this is wrong. The below is from Gen 6:

1 Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them,

2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.

3 And the Lord said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."

4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

5 Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

6 And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart.

7 So the Lord said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them."

Notice clearly in verse 1 is says "when MEN began to multiple on earth and daughters were born to them?" Here the word, "MEN" is used, NOT "SONS OF GOD" which is used in verse 2. Human men were already multiplying. This is obvious from verse 1. Therefore if verse 2 referred to human men, the point would be redundant.

It wasn't until there were apparently lots of daughters that the Sons of God found the daughters beautiful. Normal men were already having children with them that's how there came to be more daughters. See what I mean???
Show me in the Bible where angels are EVER referred to as sons/daughters of God. The only ones referred to as sons/daughters of God are us, people, who have accepted the only begotten Son of God, Jesus Christ, as our Savior. Angels are not considered God's children, but mortal men and women are.
 
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Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.


Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Sons of God are angels also
 

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To PlainWord

You say Jesus is the tree of Life right

So Eve hadsex with the treeof Knowledge of good and evil aka the devil

Ok Eve is Adam wife so therfore Eve comitted adultry

Next God said least she EAT of the TREE OF LIFE aka Jesus hmmm or least Evehad sex with Jesus is that what you are sayin

Hmm EAT right

you se this rediculous theory you have ou better repent of this wicked folly tou are try to promote

again your theory should be

EAT

Eve eat or had sex with the devil

Eve would have EAT out of the tree of life or had sex with sex with Jesus hmm you are also saying Adam would have to
hmmm God never created homos hmmm

This theory is pure evil EVILLLLLLLLLLLLL I SAY


APPLY YOUR EAT = sex theory right through the story and see if it makes sense

you are implying that Eve would have slept with Jesus

Wattt nonsense
If Eve slept with Satan, yes she committed adultery.

No I am NOT SAYING eating from the Tree of Life would be the same as eating of from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Satan's ways are perverted. He perverts everything that is of Christ. Again, and I've said this repeatedly, it could be that Adam and Eve worshiped Satan and didn't sleep with him.

you se this rediculous theory you have ou better repent of this wicked folly tou are try to promote
Again, I NEVER SAID that eating from the Tree of Life is the same as eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. You are saying that. Similarly, I don't think Satan worship is the same as Jesus worship, do you???? The people who worship Satan usually involves some kind of sacrifice, weird chanting, drinking actual blood etc.

Please, do put words in my mouth. I don't do that to you!!
 

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Ask yourself this Daniel,

Are the two trees literal trees like those that are found everywhere on earth?

If no, then they are special trees, right?

If they are special trees then their fruit is special too, right?

If their fruit is not normal fruit (i.e., one gives eternal life and one gives knowledge of good and bad) then what kind of fruit is it?

Since neither tree or its fruit can be said to be literal (in that they are normally observed on earth) that means they are either figurative or spiritual. So if they are figurative or spiritual than logic dictates that "eating" from them is also figurative or spiritual. You can't have it both ways!!!
 
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If Eve slept with Satan, yes she committed adultery.

No I am NOT SAYING eating from the Tree of Life would be the same as eating of from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. Satan's ways are perverted. He perverts everything that is of Christ. Again, and I've said this repeatedly, it could be that Adam and Eve worshiped Satan and didn't sleep with him.



Again, I NEVER SAID that eating from the Tree of Life is the same as eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. You are saying that. Similarly, I don't think Satan worship is the same as Jesus worship, do you???? The people who worship Satan usually involves some kind of sacrifice, weird chanting, drinking actual blood etc.

Please, do put words in my mouth. I don't do that to you!!

you said eating from the evil tree means eve had sex with the devil since he is that evil tree

Thus if you apply your same principle it would be saying that If Eve ate out the tree of life ( Jesus) She would have ha sex with Him

I agree with how Isdaniel continues to shew you your error
and all those who have tried to shew just accept God word as is if it were so God would have said

okayyyyyyy

give up on this nonsesne before God deals with you after your folly
 

PlainWord

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So adam and eve had sex with the other trees as well hmmm Eat right
The other trees were literal trees. Nothing suggests they weren't. Plenty suggests that two trees in question were not literal trees. Since they are either figurative or spiritual, ask yourself, what do they represent or who are they spiritually? If they represent something than so does eating from them. Common Sense 101 brother!!
 

PlainWord

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you said eating from the evil tree means eve had sex with the devil since he is that evil tree

Thus if you apply your same principle it would be saying that If Eve ate out the tree of life ( Jesus) She would have ha sex with Him

I agree with how Isdaniel continues to shew you your error
and all those who have tried to shew just accept God word as is if it were so God would have said

okayyyyyyy

give up on this nonsesne before God deals with you after your folly
I wish you would read everything instead of just jumping in and taking things out of context.

Answer this. Is worshiping Satan and worshiping Jesus the same thing??? I mean the practice of it?

Those of us who worship Jesus, study his word, pray to him, bow down and give him praise.

How does one worship Satan? I've only seen Satan worship in the movies but it is certainly very different.
 
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Ask yourself this Daniel,

Are the two trees literal trees like those that are found everywhere on earth?

If no, then they are special trees, right?

If they are special trees then their fruit is special too, right?

If their fruit is not normal fruit (i.e., one gives eternal life and one gives knowledge of good and bad) then what kind of fruit is it?

Since neither tree or its fruit can be said to be literal (in that they are normally observed on earth) that means they are either figurative or spiritual. So if they are figurative or spiritual than logic dictates that "eating" from them is also figurative or spiritual. You can't have it both ways!!!

does it have trees in Heaven ?

Think about it before you answer okaayyyy

Wiil there be trees in God kingdom ?

Will the tree of life and Jesus be there in the city and are separate from each other ?

Note i said in the city whereas outside of the city are other treesfor food


you are weird serioulsy

no offence but stop adding to God word


Is the city God is bringing made of the stone we have here on the earth ?

Think about it okaaayyyyyy
 

PlainWord

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Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.


Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Sons of God are angels also
Yes exactly!!!! All angels are Sons of God. Remember, Satan took a third of them but they are still Sons of God in that He created them, not Satan. Satan has not created any being that we know of.

Can I brew you some coffee Daniel? I think you need to at least start smelling some. The world is a wicked place. There are people all around us today doing the work of the Devil. There are evil spirits all around us.
 

PlainWord

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does it have trees in Heaven ?

Think about it before you answer okaayyyy

Wiil there be trees in God kingdom ?

Will the tree of life and Jesus be there in the city and are separate from each other ?

Note i said in the city whereas outside of the city are other treesfor food


you are weird serioulsy

no offence but stop adding to God word


Is the city God is bringing made of the stone we have here on the earth ?

Think about it okaaayyyyyy
I'm done talking to you Ruth until you grow up a little and learn to treat people with respect, especially those of us who have been on this earth far longer than you and have been studying the Word some 20+ years before you were born.
 

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So by your interpretation that angels had sex with women, God is not in control, correct? Essentially, His angels can do whatever they want and God just says, "Sure. Sleep with mortal women. Then I'll send a flood and kill everyone." Do you believe that since the angels had to submit themselves before God, including satan, that God would permit them to have intercourse with women? You will recall, in Job, that satan had to ask permission.
 
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Yes exactly!!!! All angels are Sons of God. Remember, Satan took a third of them but they are still Sons of God in that He created them, not Satan. Satan has not created any being that we know of.

Can I brew you some coffee Daniel? I think you need to at least start smelling some. The world is a wicked place. There are people all around us today doing the work of the Devil. There are evil spirits all around us.

what is ironic the bible says when the angels had sex with women in Gen 6 hmmm i think the devil was one ofthem there dont you

The bible never mentioned that in the garden why ?
 
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I'm done talking to you Ruth until you grow up a little and learn to treat people with respect, especially those of us who have been on this earth far longer than you and have been studying the Word some 20+ years before you were born.
We are from the caribbean and she is not being direspectful
alot of people tell me the same it just our culture how we talk on this side you should visit for your vacation and you will see

So I understand Her well
 
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I'm done talking to you Ruth until you grow up a little and learn to treat people with respect, especially those of us who have been on this earth far longer than you and have been studying the Word some 20+ years before you were born.

Jesus was 12 hmm this the problem i always get we talking with older person on the bible they always tell me that but hey age does not always mean wisdom especially with God word
 
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does it have trees in Heaven ?

Think about it before you answer okaayyyy

Wiil there be trees in God kingdom ?

Will the tree of life and Jesus be there in the city and are separate from each other ?

Note i said in the city whereas outside of the city are other treesfor food


you are weird serioulsy

no offence but stop adding to God word


Is the city God is bringing made of the stone we have here on the earth ?

Think about it okaaayyyyyy

there are trees in heaven the temple hmm sybolism why thoses trees

the tree of life is in the city alone not outside with the ordinary trees

They shall plant angels ooppps i mean vineyards

hmmm the city has stones just as we have diamond gold etc its just pure
 
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So by your interpretation that angels had sex with women, God is not in control, correct? Essentially, His angels can do whatever they want and God just says, "Sure. Sleep with mortal women. Then I'll send a flood and kill everyone." Do you believe that since the angels had to submit themselves before God, including satan, that God would permit them to have intercourse with women? You will recall, in Job, that satan had to ask permission.

Could not God stop the devil from tepting Eve hmmmm

the fallen angels took the women they were cast to the earth are they not take people today hmmm God is God He sees and knows