New Sabbath Poll - All are welcome to vote

[Crazylove]

I wish I could say i'm surprised by th votes, but sadly i'm not.

The 2nd choice is biblical:

"Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Mt 5:19)

"And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act as he would wish him to act shall be beaten with many [lashes].But he who did not know and did things worthy of a beating shall be beaten with few [lashes]." (Lk 12:47-48)

Shabbath means," Sign of th Eternal Father"
We will all gather on each Sabbath even in th new earth (Is 66:22-23), God Himself set th Sabbath in motion by resting on it Himself! Did u read this correctly! Th eternal God, maker of th earth, sun, stars, th universe that is expanding as u read this, rested on th Sabbath!

"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. And God blessed (spoke good of) the seventh day, set it apart as His own, and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all His work which He had created and done." (Gen 2:1-3)

Who are we, the creation,to push aside a day our creator,God, set apart and made holy! We are but th dust of th earth, unrighteous, unholy, "for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth" (Gen 8:21)!

We have no authority to change, take lightly, or just plan ignore the Sabbath! God gave us this day of rest! "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." (Mrk 2:27) This is such a joyful day! Take full advantage of this day made for us! This is what God intended for all humanity

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

I wish I could say i'm surprised by th votes, but sadly i'm not.

The 2nd choice is biblical:

"Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Mt 5:19)

Paul taught that performing physical circumcision as a matter of obedience to law would cause a believer to fall from grace, yet the law commanded that every male must be circumcised. In other words, Paul taught men to not do a commandment in the law. According to how you are interpreting Matthew 5:19, Paul will be called among the least in the kingdom of heaven.

 

[kote]

the question is, can you tell me if the bible says names of days ? does the bible say monday or something like that? the bible says about "first day, second day, etc" notice it. if you know how to count, then you will understand

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

What is purpose of poles, most points win? or can find out who to mock and scorn? just wanting to know purpose, i don't vote on them, seems like a way to give enemy ammo.

Sounds like you afraid of expressing clearly and openly what you believe.

 

[john832]

Paul taught that performing physical circumcision as a matter of obedience to law would cause a believer to fall from grace, yet the law commanded that every male must be circumcised. In other words, Paul taught men to not do a commandment in the law. According to how you are interpreting Matthew 5:19, Paul will be called among the least in the kingdom of heaven.

God has always taught circumcision and still does...

Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Paul taught the same...

Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

And I guess both Paul and Timothy have fallen from grace...

Act 16:1 Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek:
Act 16:2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium.
Act 16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

Well, apparently you'll go into the Kingdom before Paul and Timothy. (Pretty sure it won't happen that way.)

 

[john832]

Sounds like you afraid of expressing clearly and openly what you believe.

Well HeRose my friend, one thing about the two of us is, what you see is what you get. I think just about everybody here knows where we stand.

 

[jimmydiggs]

I can't vote in Sabbath polls, because that would be working on the sabbath.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Well HeRose my friend, one thing about the two of us is, what you see is what you get. I think just about everybody here knows where we stand.

That's the problem and the reason for this poll: to try to see clearly exactly where people stand. Yet many who are so adamant about the sabbath are afraid to set the record straight. Sounds like they are afraid of having their beliefs exposed.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

God has always taught circumcision and still does...

Deu 10:16 Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Paul taught the same...

Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

And I guess both Paul and Timothy have fallen from grace...

Act 16:1 Then came he to Derbe and Lystra: and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, the son of a certain woman, which was a Jewess, and believed; but his father was a Greek:
Act 16:2 Which was well reported of by the brethren that were at Lystra and Iconium.
Act 16:3 Him would Paul have to go forth with him; and took and circumcised him because of the Jews which were in those quarters: for they knew all that his father was a Greek.

Well, apparently you'll go into the Kingdom before Paul and Timothy. (Pretty sure it won't happen that way.)

Not the same. In fact, a real disingenuous response. And Paul circumcised Timothy for reasons other than obedience to the law.

 

[john832]

Not the same. In fact, a real disingenuous response. And Paul circumcised Timothy for reasons other than obedience to the law.

Of course he did, he circumcised Timothy so the Jews would accept him. Nevertheless, he did circumcise him. So if being circumcised causes one to fall from grace, whatever the reason, then Paul and Timothy have fallen from grace.

I think you know me by now, my responses are not disingenuous and I also know you. Your responses are not disingenuous. We both say what we believe.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Of course he did, he circumcised Timothy so the Jews would accept him. Nevertheless, he did circumcise him. So if being circumcised causes one to fall from grace, whatever the reason, then Paul and Timothy have fallen from grace.

I think you know me by now, my responses are not disingenuous and I also know you. Your responses are not disingenuous. We both say what we believe.

That's what I mean by a disingenuous response on your part. I was abundantly clear in stating that circumcision performed as a means of obedience to law would cause one to fall from grace. Yet you threw out this distraction.

 

[john832]

That's what I mean by a disingenuous response on your part. I was abundantly clear in stating that circumcision performed as a means of obedience to law would cause one to fall from grace. Yet you threw out this distraction.

Not a distraction. Are you saying it was situational ethics? Are you saying what is right one day can be wrong on another? Either physical circumcision causes one to fall from grace or it does not. As you can see, I am not a fan of situational ethics, I am a digital thinker. Either it causes one to fall from grace or it does not. I can't see an in-between. (removing half of the foreskin?)

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Not a distraction. Are you saying it was situational ethics? Are you saying what is right one day can be wrong on another? Either physical circumcision causes one to fall from grace or it does not. As you can see, I am not a fan of situational ethics, I am a digital thinker. Either it causes one to fall from grace or it does not. I can't see an in-between. (removing half of the foreskin?)

You're just being obtuse.

 

[kote]

That made me laugh!

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[danschance]

I wish I could say i'm surprised by th votes, but sadly i'm not.

The 2nd choice is biblical:

"Whoever then breaks or does away with or relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but he who practices them and teaches others to do so shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." (Mt 5:19)

"And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act as he would wish him to act shall be beaten with many [lashes].But he who did not know and did things worthy of a beating shall be beaten with few [lashes]." (Lk 12:47-48)

Shabbath means," Sign of th Eternal Father"
We will all gather on each Sabbath even in th new earth (Is 66:22-23), God Himself set th Sabbath in motion by resting on it Himself! Did u read this correctly! Th eternal God, maker of th earth, sun, stars, th universe that is expanding as u read this, rested on th Sabbath!

"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. And God blessed (spoke good of) the seventh day, set it apart as His own, and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all His work which He had created and done." (Gen 2:1-3)

Who are we, the creation,to push aside a day our creator,God, set apart and made holy! We are but th dust of th earth, unrighteous, unholy, "for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth" (Gen 8:21)!

We have no authority to change, take lightly, or just plan ignore the Sabbath! God gave us this day of rest! "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." (Mrk 2:27) This is such a joyful day! Take full advantage of this day made for us! This is what God intended for all humanity

In the New testament 9 of the 10 commandments were clearly stated. Do you know which one was not even mentioned? The Sabbath was not affirmed in the New testament. The New testament never once says we should keep the Sabbath. Instead the New Testament says do not forsake the assembly of God's people.

It was for freedom that Christ set us free; therefore keep standing firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. Gal.5;1

 

[buckets]

John 6:29 "Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God. That ye believe on him whom he hath sent"

John 8-12 "Then spake Jesus again unto them saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."

Jesus is the answer as for the Sabbath he said

John 10:27-28 "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand."

John 5:22 "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgement unto the Son:"

Mark 3:27-28 "And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man made for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath."

Christ spoke quite clearly of these things last time I questioned someone as to why keeping the sabbath was to be done as they said, I was told to read The Bible I agree this time I post mostly scripture to show I do

 

[Brother_Don]

God commanded, so i try and obey, all i have to break is one, and i've broken all of them. as for working on sabbath Christ Jesus had compassion, and said if our horse is in a ditch get it out. Some may need to work 7th day or be fired.

 

[john832]

You're just being obtuse.

Naw, I am not over 90 degrees.

 

[JaumeJ]

When a person is doing good, even on the Sabbath, it is just fine with the Lord. When anyone knowingly forbids you from having the Sabbath off to be with the Lord the sin is not on your head. It is always a good work to provide for others.

God commanded, so i try and obey, all i have to break is one, and i've broken all of them. as for working on sabbath Christ Jesus had compassion, and said if our horse is in a ditch get it out. Some may need to work 7th day or be fired.

 

[alexis]

When a person is doing good, even on the Sabbath, it is just fine with the Lord. When anyone knowingly forbids you from having the Sabbath off to be with the Lord the sin is not on your head. It is always a good work to provide for others.

This is exactly how I see the scripture. Obviously Christ said to do his Fathers work was pleasing. Of course God would not have your children go hungry so you could maintain the Sabbath. Thank you for wording this better than I could have!