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danschance
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Theos is not YHWH---not even close. Theos means God. Yahweh is a word that was invented in the 1300's by a man who inserted vowels from Adonai.
We know about throwing out law, does the law have anything good about it??
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Theos is not YHWH---not even close. Theos means God. Yahweh is a word that was invented in the 1300's by a man who inserted vowels from Adonai.
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cfultz3
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Love does not offend, even our God. Our Shepherd is the Law Giver. Would He, the One we are spiritually following, not tell us that such is walking contrary to God's will? Yes, He would. Obedience is to the Shepherd of the new Covenant. Our obedience is spiritual and not fleshly. The One we follow is still the Law Giver and He places us not under the burden of what He Himself came to destroy: righteousness through our flesh attempt.
We are to die to the flesh so that we, by our spirit, can walk the path He leads on: to everlasting life.
what sour milk are you trying to give us here hmmmm
What was circumcision of the flesh a shadow of ?
Why do we not do in the flesh again ?
How is this fufilled in the new ?
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cfultz3
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I suppose.
Is it true that we have been given a new method to walk the path to God the Father?
Is it true that we have been given a new leader on that path?
Law leads to death.
The Son leads to life.
If they lead to separate places, then we cannot have both leading at the same time.
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BibleReaderFloridaUSA
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Much confusion may always be occurring with people not knowing what exactly it is to be under the works of the law. Do You realize that people can nowadays be under the works of the law and therefore not under grace? Please refer to and understand the following and know about that curse in the law and know that trying keep the law without Christ will not give You righteousness. Are we righteous without obeying it? The Bible may make it abundantly clear that we cannot make it to heaven without in the end being fully converted. Do not think that this leaves out keeping any one of His commandments.[h=3]"Galatians 3:9-11[/h]King James Version (KJV)
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith."
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith."
The message of the New Testament is this: FOR THOSE OF US THAT CONFESS AND REPENT OF OUR SIN AND ACEPT JESUS AS OUR LORD AND SAVIORBecause of Jesus' sacrifice, God no longer counts our sins against us.He took away everything that could cause spiritual death so that we can receive His everlasting life without fear of losing it ever again.
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BibleReaderFloridaUSA
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From the Son comes life eternal if we believe on Him. If we believe on Him, it might be said that He leads us in the ways of The Spirit of God and that His Spirit wills above all that we follow both the Spirit and letter of that Spirit's law and that this is how He inspires us to do.
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cfultz3
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Circumcision of the heart from the new Covenant.
Get physically circumcised as a means of entering into a covenant with God. Such would kill us.
Repent of our ways. Accept Jesus and Jesus' way to God the Father.
Moses covered his face when they saw his skin shinning light (nakedness) while delivering the law to them. Just like in the garden of Eden they ate of the tree of the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL. What about the 144000 of revelation are with the mark of their father in their foreheads the firstfruits of God to the Lamb. They are being delivered to Mt Sinai everyday to be judged there after. Look at "judges" then jump back to the end of revelations. It's the great spiritual assembly line of the great wine press of the world.
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cfultz3
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YESSSSSSSSSSS
Let us follow the Law from the Spirit sent from Jesus Christ. Let us follow love.
If we follow the Law from Moses, then where is the sacrifices in our churches, etc...?
We fool ourselves if we think we can be under two covenants with God.
Under the new covenant, the letters of the law are only relevant in terms of instruction.
hmm it is in the law of Moses that will tell you what RuthHannah asked my friend you will never find it in the Nt spelt out like that
hmm the same one you do not want to follow this is what you all will never understand
The first five books were call the law of Moses
Luke 24:44
King James Version (KJV)
44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
In a nutshell Jesus coming was prophesy in these books thus fulfilling what Jesus said to the diciples
None of the ten commandmenst are a shadow pointing to Jesus because they always existed until sin became the sacrificial laws etc became
Did you notice that God Slay an animal that symbolised Jesus slain from the foudation of the world
Genesis the Seed
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Exodus The passover lamb
Leviticus the offereings like the scapegoat etc
Numbers 21:9
And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.
Deuteronomy
Deuteronomy 18:15
King James Version (KJV)
15 The Lord thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thybrethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
Note it says the law of Moses First five Books Moses wrote them
Prophets from samuel onwards
psalms are just a few
They are all separate
Thus one needs to find out what was fufilled in Christ when He came
sacrificial laws of animals we offer spiritual sacrifices
cicrcumcision of the flesh we circumcise our hearts
no physical temple we are the temple
Not the temple was 3 parts
the outer court = body flesh
holy place = soul
Most Holy = spirit
Where does the ark of the covenat sit in the old temple in the Most Hoy
Where does God want to dwell in The most Holy over the ark of the covenant where His laws are
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cfultz3
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Yes. Faith (the soul listening to its spirit which minds the things from the Spirit) is the Son's path.
The spirit of the Law is: Love. We are told that he who does not love neither has the Father nor the Son. Love pleases God. The flesh never does.
Love, through the Son's way, has replaced physical obedience as the means of obedience. One cannot have two masters. One leads to death. The other leads to life.
Let us die to the Law and its requirement of physical obedience. And let us became alive to our spirit so that our obedience is spiritual and Spirit-ually lead. It is said that it is not about the putting away of fleshly filth (fleshly attempt to stand before God righteously), but a good conscious towards God (spiritual attempt to stand before God righteously). It also says that faith is God's WORK for us..........
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BibleReaderFloridaUSA
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Refer to the following scriptures. "[h=1]Revelation 21 (King James Version)[/h]10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
12 And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
18 And the building of the wall of it was of jasper: and the city was pure gold, like unto clear glass.
19 And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
21 And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life."
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[h=3]"Leviticus 18[/h]King James Version (KJV)22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
24 Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:
25 And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants.
26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:
27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled
28 That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.
29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.
30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the Lord your God."
Yes… the law is understood that way for the purpose of using spiritual terror to burden others with practices that are acceptable according to the laws of modern Babylon.
An absolute untruth and you know it. Everybody knows circumcision was not “made up” by the Jews and it was in the old national contract even though it went back to Abraham. Like your round God theory how can you actually say something like that and keep a straight face?
[h=3]Psalm 40:6-8[/h]King James Version (KJV)
6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.
I believe this is Jesus how about you
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cfultz3
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What about the Law of Christ?
What about what His Covenant says?
What about the very Son of God?
The Law leads to death.
The Son leads to life.
I point to the Son.
I do not point to the Law which only gives out death.
The Son is the maker of a better covenant.
You will have to go back to the old law of Moses which many do not want to keep to see this
also many say not that which go in defiles a man but hey does not cigarette go into the man and defiles the temple hmmm just a thought and they eat every thing not understanding Jesus was talking aboout unwashed hands
To add to this because they did not eat at the same time as Moses and because he hid his nakedness from them they never knew that they had sinned but it's also pretty much the first thing a sinner hears and correctly understands when they approach God. People are judged first, separated by their iniquities from God, then left in their sins to exact salvation through their own works. At some point it becomes more of a team effort but some just can't let go do they remain in the sin of their own hearts. When you are saved there are no sins in your heart. You are free from sin. No one can judge you by law. Just my story