We know about throwing out law, does the law have anything good about it??

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The message of the New Testament is this: FOR THOSE OF US THAT CONFESS AND REPENT OF OUR SIN AND ACEPT JESUS AS OUR LORD AND SAVIORBecause of Jesus' sacrifice, God no longer counts our sins against us.He took away everything that could cause spiritual death so that we can receive His everlasting life without fear of losing it ever again.

and after we do this we are free to kill , steal etc
 
[h=3]Psalm 40:6-8[/h]King James Version (KJV)

6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
7 Then said I, Lo, I come: in the volume of the book it is written of me,
8 I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart.



I believe this is Jesus how about you

And that Law? Love fulfills the Law.

For God so loved the world.....Because of His love for mankind, He gave Himself even unto death....

God indeed fulfilled the Law by love.

If verse six tells us about the Law and how God did not desire it, then why point to it? Why not point to the One who brought in a better interaction between God and man? Love, and not the Law, does God delight in.
 
[h=3]Psalm 122[/h]King James Version (KJV)

122 I was glad when they said unto me, Let us go into the house of the Lord.
2 Our feet shall stand within thy gates, O Jerusalem.
3 Jerusalem is builded as a city that is compact together:
4 Whither the tribes go up, the tribes of the Lord, unto the testimony of Israel, to give thanks unto the name of the Lord.
5 For there are set thrones of judgment, the thrones of the house of David.
6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.
7 Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.
8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.
9 Because of the house of the Lord our God I will seek thy good.
 
And that Law? Love fulfills the Law.

For God so loved the world.....Because of His love for mankind, He gave Himself even unto death....

God indeed fulfilled the Law by love.

If verse six tells us about the Law and how God did not desire it, then why point to it? Why not point to the One who brought in a better interaction between God and man? Love, and not the Law, does God delight in.

The law is love but hey what can i say many would say in that day they loved God but hmm would He love them
 
It seems that we two are pointing different directions.

I will leave this for others to talk about.

I will leave you and others with this: Love pleases God. The Law from the Spirit sent from Jesus Christ is spiritual and not physical.
 
How so?....

thats where we are different many talk love love love but they dont have the love of the Father in them does this ring a bell

John 3:19-21

King James Version (KJV)

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loveddarkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lesthis deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.



teaching people to break law is darkness

Were you breaking law before you came to Jesus ?
Then His grace saved you not works

Now that you are under grace can you go back into the old way of life
and call your self a christian etc ?

You all do not understand what is grace that is the problem
If a murderer is set free from the death penality garce was shewed to him is he then fre to kill because grace was shewed to him and he is under grace and not the penalty of the law
 
Would love offend the Shepherd?

Surely, the flesh is weak.

Paul certainly would...

Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
 
It seems that we two are pointing different directions.

I will leave this for others to talk about.

I will leave you and others with this: Love pleases God. The Law from the Spirit sent from Jesus Christ is spiritual and not physical.

yet you dont love God because love forces us to keep the coomandments not tell people break it

love hmmmm it is what you love my friend
 
and after we do this we are free to kill , steal etc
shake my head... you have absolutely no idea what the grace of God does to someone that receives him. that's all i have to say and this is the only defense, most of you bring " so we are free to kill steal etc if you say we are not under law " it's pitifull to see honestly...
 
shake my head... you have absolutely no idea what the grace of God does to someone that receives him. that's all i have to say and this is the only defense, most of you bring " so we are free to kill steal etc if you say we are not under law " it's pitifull to see honestly...

shake your head some more until you understand hmmm under law simply means we are not under the penlt of the law which is eternal death All those who do not have Jesus are under the penalty of t he law which is eternal death

may i say eternal death because i know He that did not rose from the dead has many to say on this
 
shake my head... you have absolutely no idea what the grace of God does to someone that receives him. that's all i have to say and this is the only defense, most of you bring " so we are free to kill steal etc if you say we are not under law " it's pitifull to see honestly...


I think ISDaniel knows, they are just messing with you.
 
shake my head... you have absolutely no idea what the grace of God does to someone that receives him. that's all i have to say and this is the only defense, most of you bring " so we are free to kill steal etc if you say we are not under law " it's pitifull to see honestly...

It's just regurgitated talking points that they read about on law cultist and sabbath obsessed websites.
 
shake my head... you have absolutely no idea what the grace of God does to someone that receives him. that's all i have to say and this is the only defense, most of you bring " so we are free to kill steal etc if you say we are not under law " it's pitifull to see honestly...

Oh I think he does. Grace forgive the transgression of the Law. It is unearned and undeserved forgiveness of sin.
 
oh @ daniel i heard you said that the school master law is a different law i didn't get a chance to anwser you back so please, tell me what " other " law according to you leads us to christ because you said that it was not talking about the 10 commandments so please share this other law that leads us to christ as u stated
 
Yes. Faith (the soul listening to its spirit which minds the things from the Spirit) is the Son's path.


The spirit of the Law is: Love. We are told that he who does not love neither has the Father nor the Son. Love pleases God. The flesh never does.

Love, through the Son's way, has replaced physical obedience as the means of obedience. One cannot have two masters. One leads to death. The other leads to life.

Let us die to the Law and its requirement of physical obedience. And let us became alive to our spirit so that our obedience is spiritual and Spirit-ually lead. It is said that it is not about the putting away of fleshly filth (fleshly attempt to stand before God righteously), but a good conscious towards God (spiritual attempt to stand before God righteously). It also says that faith is God's WORK for us..........

Know this. You cannot, and will not, while being disobedient to God's laws, at the same time, love Your neighbor as Yourself.
It does not fit with reality. Understand fully the meaning of the following statement of Christ. " ​[h=3]Matthew 22[/h]King James Version (KJV)35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a question, tempting him, and saying,36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."
 
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Mark 9:24 And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief.