For Sabbath keepers, How does obedience to the Sabbath affect your Salvation?
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not saying everyone is one one or the other, but believing lies can lead to the following falsehoods...
it may be the difference between accepting Yahweh authority or the beasts authority...
or between celebrating firstfruits or ishtar sunday with eggs and bunnies
between fellowshiping with Yahweh or fellowshiping with demons
it may be the difference between accepting Yahweh authority or the beasts authority...
or between celebrating firstfruits or ishtar sunday with eggs and bunnies
between fellowshiping with Yahweh or fellowshiping with demons
Mat 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Yep, three days and three nights...
Mar 9:31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.
Mar 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Mar 10:34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Now the only time that can satisfy all three of these scriptures is three full days, not an hour more or an hour less.
So, tell me again how there are three days and three nights between Friday sunset and Sunday while it is yet dark.
Yep, three days and three nights...
Mar 9:31 For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day.
Mar 8:31 And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
Mar 10:34 And they shall mock him, and shall scourge him, and shall spit upon him, and shall kill him: and the third day he shall rise again.
Now the only time that can satisfy all three of these scriptures is three full days, not an hour more or an hour less.
So, tell me again how there are three days and three nights between Friday sunset and Sunday while it is yet dark.
May I make a slight correction here? The way the Hebrews counted days was that the next day started at sundown of the previous day. You have it right that Jesus died the day before Passover which was the 14th. The 15th is Passover which is the 1st day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. That was the "High day" or the annual Sabbath. The 14th was the preparation day, but the last supper and the death of Christ was actually the same day. Counting 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb, compared with Jonah, brings us to the setting of the sun ending the 7th, or weekly Sabbath day. The setting of the sun started the first day of the week, and Mary was at the tomb before the sun rose of that first day.
John 20:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
John 20:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
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Need to make a correction John. You said that Jesus died on Passover. And I misread what you wrote. He died the day before Passover. The Passover lamb was killed on the 14th day of the 1st month as Jesus was crucified. The Passover lamb was eaten after sundown which was the beginning of the 15th day of the first month.
Exodus 12:1-8 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
Exodus 12:1-8 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
[SUP]2 [/SUP]This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth day of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of their fathers, a lamb for an house:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And if the household be too little for the lamb, let him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall make your count for the lamb.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And they shall eat the flesh in that night, roast with fire, and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
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Some, in an attempt to teach a Sunday morning resurrection, have used Matthew 28:1 in support of such a teaching. We do know, however, that Jesus Christ was resurrected on Saturday afternoon, around sunset, after having been in the grave for three days and three nights. He was killed on a Wednesday, and placed in the grave on Wednesday afternoon, just around sunset.
"We read in Matthew 28:1-6 (Authorized Version): 'In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it… And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for HE IS RISEN, AS HE SAID.'
"We note from the passage that Christ was already resurrected by the time the women came to the grave. We are told that they appeared 'in the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week.' Many commentaries point out that this phrase discusses the END of the SABBATH, that is, Saturday evening or late afternoon, and NOT Sunday morning.
"We read in Matthew 28:1-6 (Authorized Version): 'In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it… And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. He is not here: for HE IS RISEN, AS HE SAID.'
"We note from the passage that Christ was already resurrected by the time the women came to the grave. We are told that they appeared 'in the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week.' Many commentaries point out that this phrase discusses the END of the SABBATH, that is, Saturday evening or late afternoon, and NOT Sunday morning.
You are sure the Passover was the next day, the 15th? Let's read a little...
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
The fifteenth was the First Day of Unleavened Bread...
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
The 15th is a holy convocation. A high day. Now let's go to the gospels and read...
Joh 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
Joh 19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
So, Christ died here and then had to be taken down off of the stake because the next day was a high day. This high day is the First Day of Unleavened Bread. (the weekly Sabbath is not referred to as a high day)
so Christ was crucified on Wednesday, April 25, 31AD and was placed in the tomb just before sunset. At sunset the Frist Day of Unleavened Bread began. Wednesday night + Thursday day = 1st day in the tomb. Thursday night + Friday day = 2nd day in the tomb. Friday night + Saturday day = 3rd day in tomb. Christ is now resurrected at/about sunset on the Sabbath.
The resurrection was not on Sunday morning. That was a totally different Feast day...
Lev 23:9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Christ was the Wave Sheaf, the very first of the firstfruits. He ascended on Sunday morning just as the Wave Sheaf Feast shows.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
The fifteenth was the First Day of Unleavened Bread...
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
The 15th is a holy convocation. A high day. Now let's go to the gospels and read...
Joh 19:28 After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst.
Joh 19:29 Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth.
Joh 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Joh 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
So, Christ died here and then had to be taken down off of the stake because the next day was a high day. This high day is the First Day of Unleavened Bread. (the weekly Sabbath is not referred to as a high day)
so Christ was crucified on Wednesday, April 25, 31AD and was placed in the tomb just before sunset. At sunset the Frist Day of Unleavened Bread began. Wednesday night + Thursday day = 1st day in the tomb. Thursday night + Friday day = 2nd day in the tomb. Friday night + Saturday day = 3rd day in tomb. Christ is now resurrected at/about sunset on the Sabbath.
The resurrection was not on Sunday morning. That was a totally different Feast day...
Lev 23:9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Christ was the Wave Sheaf, the very first of the firstfruits. He ascended on Sunday morning just as the Wave Sheaf Feast shows.
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Jesus celeberated the passover with his disciples, so we know he was not killed on passover night
Jesus was killed on the preparation day of the Sabbath
Mark 15:42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,
Mark 15:43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
Luke 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
Luke 23:55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
John 19:16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
John 19:32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
John 19:42 There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.
John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Im sor but the 3 whole days is not correct
Jesus died friday afternoon and rose sunday morning before sunrise which is actually mover mid sunday
The prophets have spoken
your mis understanding of one bible verse about Jonah is incorrect
the text of Jonah applies because Jonah did not spend three full days in the belly either and we know that since it was daylight at dark when when they threw him overboard
misinterpreting one verse does not cancel the whole Bible
May Gods spirit help you to see, JEsus rose just before sunrise sunday because if he had been raised at sundown, the soldiers could not have used the excuse that the SLEPT that night
and that "the disciples" stole his body away while they slept
The Lord says
Jesus died firday afternoon and rose sunday morning.
Please respect him.
This is fact, and by inspiration.
Jesus was killed on the preparation day of the Sabbath
Mark 15:42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,
Mark 15:43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
Luke 23:54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.
Luke 23:55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.
John 19:14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!
John 19:15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.
John 19:16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.
John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
John 19:32 Then came the soldiers, and brake the legs of the first, and of the other which was crucified with him.
John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs:
John 19:42 There laid they Jesus therefore because of the Jews' preparation day; for the sepulchre was nigh at hand.
John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Im sor but the 3 whole days is not correct
Jesus died friday afternoon and rose sunday morning before sunrise which is actually mover mid sunday
The prophets have spoken
your mis understanding of one bible verse about Jonah is incorrect
the text of Jonah applies because Jonah did not spend three full days in the belly either and we know that since it was daylight at dark when when they threw him overboard
misinterpreting one verse does not cancel the whole Bible
May Gods spirit help you to see, JEsus rose just before sunrise sunday because if he had been raised at sundown, the soldiers could not have used the excuse that the SLEPT that night
and that "the disciples" stole his body away while they slept
The Lord says
Jesus died firday afternoon and rose sunday morning.
Please respect him.
This is fact, and by inspiration.
They ate unleavened bread and drank wine, and He did die on the 14th. It was after sundown which was the beginning of the 14th day, a preparation day of Passover. The last supper was identical to the first Passover time line. Sorry about the misunderstanding. The first week of the feast of weeks is the feast of unleavened bread, so the Passover begins the evening of the 14th which is actually the 15th when Jesus was buried. Notice Leviticus 13:5. "At even" or starting at sundown.
Leviticus 23:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Ezekiel 45:21 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
John 19:31 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Mark 15:42-45 (KJV)
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,
[SUP]43 [/SUP]Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph.
Leviticus 23:5-6 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP]In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Ezekiel 45:21 (KJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP]In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
John 19:31 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Mark 15:42-45 (KJV)
[SUP]42 [/SUP]And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,
[SUP]43 [/SUP]Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.
[SUP]44 [/SUP]And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.
[SUP]45 [/SUP]And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph.
Correct except the first week of the seven weeks counting to Pentecost begins on the day after the Sabbath that falls within the Days of Unleavened Bread...
The Wave Sheaf is the first day of the week following the Sabbath that falls within the Days of Unleavened Bread...
Lev 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Here is where we begin counting...
Lev 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
50 days from the day after the Sabbath brings us to a Sunday. Pentecost always falls on a Sunday. (the morrow after the Sabbath)
The count begins within the Days of Unleavend Bread, but the week of Unleavened Bread is not the first week, it begins on a Sunday and 50 days later is a Sunday.
The Wave Sheaf is the first day of the week following the Sabbath that falls within the Days of Unleavened Bread...
Lev 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Here is where we begin counting...
Lev 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
50 days from the day after the Sabbath brings us to a Sunday. Pentecost always falls on a Sunday. (the morrow after the Sabbath)
The count begins within the Days of Unleavend Bread, but the week of Unleavened Bread is not the first week, it begins on a Sunday and 50 days later is a Sunday.
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Matthew 12:40 (KJV)
[SUP]40 [/SUP]For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Exodus 19:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.
Exodus 19:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.
Acts 1:3 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
Knowing that the 10 commandments given to Moses, and Pentecost are both in the third day of the third month, counting backwards to the death of Christ, we get 50 days. 49 days in the feast of weeks, and then counting the previous day which is Passover makes 50 days. We then arrive on day 15 of the first month. The 18th day is when Jesus rose from the dead. We cannot use the Gregorian calendar.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Exodus 19:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.
Exodus 19:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.
Acts 1:3 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
Knowing that the 10 commandments given to Moses, and Pentecost are both in the third day of the third month, counting backwards to the death of Christ, we get 50 days. 49 days in the feast of weeks, and then counting the previous day which is Passover makes 50 days. We then arrive on day 15 of the first month. The 18th day is when Jesus rose from the dead. We cannot use the Gregorian calendar.
Nope, one must use the lunar calendar that God gave to Moses. We transpose the dates because we use the Gregorian calendar today.
The Passover can fall on different days of the week, but the Wave Sheaf and Pentecost always fall on a particular day. These are the only two Feast days that are week day specific.
The Passover can fall on different days of the week, but the Wave Sheaf and Pentecost always fall on a particular day. These are the only two Feast days that are week day specific.