How to keep the Sabbath.

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WomanLovesTX

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The law came through the priesthood. It was based on the priesthood. Therefore, if the priesthood was changed, by necessity then the law would change also because the law come through the priesthood, and the new priesthood would have its own law. That is why GOD told Israel to be on the lookout for a prophet who would come after Moses speaking new things in GOD's name. Those new things are the new law.
No, absolutely not! The law did not come through the priesthood. The priesthood was set up so that a sinner, including the priests themselves, who were transgressors of the law, could a) recognize breaking the law, and b) repent of the law broken and c) make a public declaration of that sin by bringing the appropriate prescribed sacrifice/offering at the prescribed time. It was the Father's (daddy's) House Rules. For every action there is a reaction. Whether it be of good (obedience to the Father) or it be wrong (disobedience to the Father).

The Levitical priesthood was the weak and beggarly element of the law.

Gal 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
Gal 4:2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
Gal 4:3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
Gal 4:4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Gal 4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Gal 4:7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
Gal 4:8 Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
Gal 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?

The temple and Levitical priesthood was bondage. It never could be done just once and be satisfied. Praise Yahweh! He has freed us from that bondage and through Yeshua (Yah's salvation) we are no longer slaves to the sacrifice system and the continual shedding of blood. Christ's blood is sufficient and although the law is not done away, the need to repent is still required of us believers. Also, we are to openly share our faults in the close circle of other believers. A level of accountability built into the followers of Christ. If it wasn't for the law, no blessings could be measured out. If it wasn't for the law, we would have no light on our path in this life.

Psa 119:104 Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
Psa 119:105 NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
 

homwardbound

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Jesus did what His Father commanded, Jesus wasn't a rebellious child period.
absolute truth, yet he healed on the Sabbath and ate show bread and was falsely accused. According to the rules he was to be stoned to death. Christ was and is in Charge per Father until the last day wen Judgment takes place.
And all can worship the seventh day or not, free choice
All will be judged by whether they have the Love of God imputed into them or not period
Did you love your neighbor as Christ has loved you? Regardless of how they treated you or whether or not they saw worship your way or not?
Those are the ?'s to be asked at that day, and God already knows the answer
So maybe today is the day to give up self, and die to self at the death of Christ and be alive in the Spirit of Father at the resurrected Christ, just maybe if not already yet have, only Father knoweth
Love to you Brother and all reading here
 
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They pass away when the fulfillment comes. Paul says the fulfillment is yet future. It is, it is the Millenium. Yet, in the Millenium we will still see people keeping the Sabbath...

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another, And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me," says the LORD.
But the body of Christ is right here, right now. Those who don't enter into his rest now won't enter the millennial rest then.

Surely you don't think that verse is to be taken literally? Have you never considered the logistical problems of billions of people journeying to Jerusalem every Saturday? It would be impossible. It is, therefore, figurative language for this sabbath rest:

Jesus said to her, “Believe me, woman, that an hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. John 4:21

An hour is coming—and now is here—when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for indeed the Father seeks such people to be his worshipers. God is spirit, and the ones who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 4:23-24​
 

homwardbound

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spending the 7th day with Yahweh helps one to know Yahweh and grow in His truth and will.

people who calim "to keep every day holy" usually keep NO day holy, we are so busy throughout the week it is impossible to spend evey day 100% focused on Yahweh, and those who say they do are lying. If one has a wife or husband, does your spouse get mad when you watch football and look at the TV while talking to them? Not giving them your full attention.

But this is ok to do to Yahweh?
Wow, I see completely different than you do on this, anyway
Be ready in season and out of season to give an account for your peace, love and righteousness in the Holy Ghost of God doing the leading everyday this is
Sorry you are still caught up in worldly affairs as in getting angry over them, in place of saying thank you fro them.
Love you deeply. you are learning
 

WomanLovesTX

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Figurative language for the indwelling holy spirit who works the righteousness demanded by the law. The holy spirit is life, not dead letters of law.
Psa 119:11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Isa 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

Joh 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Mat 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Mat 9:1 And he entered into a ship, and passed over, and came into his own city.
Mat 9:2 And, behold, they brought to him a man sick of the palsy, lying on a bed: and Jesus seeing their faith said unto the sick of the palsy; Son, be of good cheer; thy sins be forgiven thee.
Mat 9:3 And, behold, certain of the scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth.
Mat 9:4 And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, Wherefore think ye evil in your hearts?
Mat 9:5 For whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and walk?
Mat 9:6 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (then saith he to the sick of the palsy,) Arise, take up thy bed, and go unto thine house.
Mat 9:7 And he arose, and departed to his house.
 

homwardbound

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I think some people personalize my assault on their lies to think that it is an attack on them.
Who knows please just in self between God and you be sure. that is why I posted what I did/ I know how easy it is to get flesh a flaring the causes destruction and no flesh pleases God except Christ's and Christ is dead to the flesh, alive and justified in the Spirit, being that the only place and way God the Father can be worshipped
1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.



 

homwardbound

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No problem. The problem only comes when they put stumbling blocks in front of the brothers by teaching that we under the law of Moses. It's spiritual abuse.
Agreed, been there and abused, and God showed me anyway and set me free it is amazing as to no work of my own, yet I spent a lot of work to discover this truth
As many are still dong here today, yet God will show what is truth to those that really want it.
 

homwardbound

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Why skip verse 9?

Well then let us put it all in context then
[h=3]Hebrews 4[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: [SUP]7 [/SUP]again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. [SUP]9 [/SUP]There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

 
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Jesus was not negating Moses and Isaiah at the mount of transfiguration. All the weight of what had been established from the beginning was transformed onto the shoulders of Christ Jesus. Think of the breastplate on the priest, and all of the priest’s attire, and then think of what Jesus willingly took upon His shoulders.

Even more, Jesus never never never taught that His disciples should just forget, and change even the smallest detail that had ever said by His Father, and written by Moses. He never taught that the law would be changed after He was dead, and resurrected. After all, even if that were the case, (which it isn’t) all of what Jesus taught wouldn’t mean anything either since Jesus’ teachings were still during Old Testament times before His death.

If the entire law had been changed, then Jesus would have told Moses to get lost. He didn't. The change is seeing all through the Holy Spirit given at Pentecost. There is very good reason that both the law and the Spirit of God were given on the very same day of the very same month as the law. Please don’t demean Sivan 5, and the 40 days Moses was on the mount. We are supposed to see them coincide with each other for good reason. Hello!
 

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Shadows pass away when facing the light.

​​Therefore do not let anyone judge you with reference to eating and drinking or participation in a feast or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of come things, but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:16-17​
One is not enough according to God's standards. (Besides you misinterpret.)

Deu 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Joh 8:14 Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.
Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.
Joh 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
Joh 8:18 I am one that bear witness of myself, and the Father that sent me beareth witness of me.

Scripture must be interpreted with scripture and within context. This is the only standard I use.

In Colossians 2:16, Did Paul tell the Colossians that they should not let themselves be judged for keeping God's commandments or for not keeping God's commandments (Lord's Sabbath & Feast Days)? There is a difference. We require context to know. Based on that verse alone, can we conclude that the Colossians were being compelled by false teachers to keep or not keep the Lord's Sabbath and Feast days?

Prove your one verse is sufficient to say God's Commandments are abolished and therefore, the fourth commandment need not be kept and we who are obedient will show you 100's of scriptures. One verse cannot contradict the whole Bible. Please, study Colossians and Paul's letters to see what Paul was actually saying to the Colossians.
 

john832

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Jesus was not negating Moses and Isaiah at the mount of transfiguration. All the weight of what had been established from the beginning was transformed onto the shoulders of Christ Jesus. Think of the breastplate on the priest, and all of the priest’s attire, and then think of what Jesus willingly took upon His shoulders.

Even more, Jesus never never never taught that His disciples should just forget, and change even the smallest detail that had ever said by His Father, and written by Moses. He never taught that the law would be changed after He was dead, and resurrected. After all, even if that were the case, (which it isn’t) all of what Jesus taught wouldn’t mean anything either since Jesus’ teachings were still during Old Testament times before His death.

If the entire law had been changed, then Jesus would have told Moses to get lost. He didn't. The change is seeing all through the Holy Spirit given at Pentecost. There is very good reason that both the law and the Spirit of God were given on the very same day of the very same month as the law. Please don’t demean Sivan 5, and the 40 days Moses was on the mount. We are supposed to see them coincide with each other for good reason. Hello!
To carry this thought even further, since Jesus Christ was the LORD who gave the Law, if He is omniscient, why did He give the Law, knowing He was going to replace it with something else?

And if He did do away with it and give a new set of laws, how do we know we have the latest version. If this is really the case, how do we know there is not a version 3.0? Or even 5.6?
 
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Well then let us put it all in context then
Hebrews 4

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

4 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. [SUP]4 [/SUP]For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. [SUP]5 [/SUP]And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: [SUP]7 [/SUP]again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts. [SUP]8 [/SUP]For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. [SUP]9 [/SUP]There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.


Why did you not highlight the seventh day That God Himself rested ? Why ?
 
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To carry this thought even further, since Jesus Christ was the LORD who gave the Law, if He is omniscient, why did He give the Law, knowing He was going to replace it with something else?

And if He did do away with it and give a new set of laws, how do we know we have the latest version. If this is really the case, how do we know there is not a version 3.0? Or even 5.6?
Very good point. God doesn't change , and Jesus is the same yesterday, today, ad forever. I couldn't serve a God that changed His mind, and what He has established. I would be skeptical of the future, and it would annihilate my hope.

Romans 8:24-25 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP]For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
 
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Jesus did not destroy the Law ,he established it. He fulfilled it .Except a seed fall in the ground and die it wont bring forth fruit. And if The Holy Spirit is in our Hearts we have become a law unto ourselves ." I will write my law in their hearts" If we walk in love through the Holy Spirit we fulfill the law ,even exceed it. Except your righteousness exceed the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees you wont enter the Kingdom of heaven. The law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. An heir as long as he is a child is under tutors and governors ( the law) My daughter has a one year old son , he is under rules and prohibitions because he is a child , she even has these little clip on the lower cabinets so he wont get in them, will she always have these clips ? Hopefully he will grow up and have discretion (law) within himself and will not need to be told what is right and wrong to do. Even nature teaches this.
 

john832

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Not so. The Sabbath can be any day, and it's primary signification in the law is a "day of rest." It just so happens that the regular Sabbath was the seventh day but there were other Sabbaths also. So I guess you seventh day sabbatarians must be 7th day Adventists? Of course there's nothing wrong with a national government instituting seventh day sabbaths - indeed its probably a good thing, but all this focus on individual responsibility to observe it, even where circumstances preclude it, is not good.

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This is patently false. The Sabbath cannot be any day. Creation week God bless and set apart for holy use (sanctified) a particular day, THE seventh day.

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
Gen 2:3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
Gen 2:4 This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

This is echoed in Ex 16...

Exo 16:23 Then he said to them, "This is what the LORD has said: 'Tomorrow is a Sabbath rest, a holy Sabbath to the LORD. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning.' "
Exo 16:24 So they laid it up till morning, as Moses commanded; and it did not stink, nor were there any worms in it.
Exo 16:25 Then Moses said, "Eat that today, for today is a Sabbath to the LORD; today you will not find it in the field.
Exo 16:26 Six days you shall gather it, but on the seventh day, the Sabbath, there will be none."

Israel ate manna forty years in the wilderness. God reinforced which day the Sabbath was for forty long years. In Ex20 we read...

Exo 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Notice, THE seventh day is the Sabbath. God nowhere says on a seventh day or any seventh day or one day out of seven, He always says THE seventh day.

Show me some scripture that says that it can be any day.
 

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But the body of Christ is right here, right now. Those who don't enter into his rest now won't enter the millennial rest then.

Surely you don't think that verse is to be taken literally? Have you never considered the logistical problems of billions of people journeying to Jerusalem every Saturday? It would be impossible. It is, therefore, figurative language for this sabbath rest:

Jesus said to her, “Believe me, woman, that an hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. John 4:21

An hour is coming—and now is here—when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for indeed the Father seeks such people to be his worshipers. God is spirit, and the ones who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 4:23-24​
Psa 25:10 All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.

Psa 119:142 Thy righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and thy law is the truth.

Psa 119:151 Thou art near, O LORD; and all thy commandments are truth.

Psa 145:18 The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.

Exo 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Deu 4:13 And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.

Deu 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

Psa 103:18 To such as keep his covenant, and to those that remember his commandments to do them.

Dan 9:4 And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;

1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

According to the Bible, truth=God's commandments.

2Jn 1:5 And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that we love one another.
2Jn 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. = And in the beginning this was given to the Israelites and the mixed multitude - Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might. Plus 2nd testimony/witness = Deu 10:12 And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, Plus 3rd witness = Deu 11:13 And it shall come to pass, if ye shall hearken diligently unto my commandments which I command you this day, to love the LORD your God, and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul,
Deu 11:14 That I will give you the rain of your land in his due season, the first rain and the latter rain, that thou mayest gather in thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil. Plus 4th witness = Deu 11:18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes. And for a 5th witness - Deu 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Plus a 6th witness/testimony - Deu 26:16 This day the LORD thy God hath commanded thee to do these statutes and judgments: thou shalt therefore keep and do them with all thine heart, and with all thy soul. Plus a 7th witness - Deu 30:2 And shalt return unto the LORD thy God, and shalt obey his voice according to all that I command thee this day, thou and thy children, with all thine heart, and with all thy soul; Plus 8th witness - Deu 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

PLUS THE TESTIMONY OF YESHUA/JESUS = THROUGH MATTHEW - Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
AND THROUGH MARK - Mar 12:30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

AND OF THE SCRIBE =
Mar 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Mar 12:33 And to love him with all the heart, and with all the understanding, and with all the soul, and with all the strength, and to love his neighbour as himself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices.
Mar 12:34 And when Jesus saw that he answered discreetly, he said unto him,
Thou art not far from the kingdom of God.

AND A CERTAIN LAWYER MADE TESTIMONY/WITNESS = Luk 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Luk 10:26 He said unto him,
What is written in the law? how readest thou?
Luk 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Luk 10:28 And he said unto him
, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.


Yeshua/Jesus came to "magnify the law". He took the letter and brought us to see the spiritual applications. He did not change the laws, He made them deeper and more meaningful.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

Isa 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

Isa 42:22 But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.
Isa 42:23 Who among you will give ear to this? who will hearken and hear for the time to come?
Isa 42:24 Who gave Jacob for a spoil, and Israel to the robbers? did not the LORD, he against whom we have sinned? for they would not walk in his ways, neither were they obedient unto his law.

Oh how I love God's Word.

Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 and 10.

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Heb 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Heb 10:17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
 

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Originally Posted by john832
They pass away when the fulfillment comes. Paul says the fulfillment is yet future. It is, it is the Millenium. Yet, in the Millenium we will still see people keeping the Sabbath...

Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another, And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me," says the LORD.
But the body of Christ is right here, right now. Those who don't enter into his rest now won't enter the millennial rest then.

Surely you don't think that verse is to be taken literally? Have you never considered the logistical problems of billions of people journeying to Jerusalem every Saturday? It would be impossible. It is, therefore, figurative language for this sabbath rest:

Jesus said to her, “Believe me, woman, that an hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. John 4:21

An hour is coming—and now is here—when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for indeed the Father seeks such people to be his worshipers. God is spirit, and the ones who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 4:23-24​
Psa 86:9 All nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord; and shall glorify thy name.

Zec 8:20 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; It shall yet come to pass, that there shall come people, and the inhabitants of many cities:
Zec 8:21 And the inhabitants of one city shall go to another, saying, Let us go speedily to pray before the LORD, and to seek the LORD of hosts: I will go also.
Zec 8:22 Yea, many people and strong nations shall come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem, and to pray before the LORD.
Zec 8:23 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass, that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you: for we have heard that God is with you.

Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Rev 15:4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

Leave the "logistics" to our Lord and creator. (In jest, because I do not know, maybe there will be something like worm holes...you step into it from say the United States and come out in Jerusalem...and all it took was one giant step of faith. After all, how did Jesus appear and disappear. He had a changed body. We know that those saints ...at His coming will be changed from mortal to immortal....is there mortals in the millenium? I think so...so really the logistics is mind boggling but didn't God say Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
 
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The law came through Moses. Moses was a Levitical priest. Therefore, the law came through the Levitical priesthood.
Exodus 31:18 KJV
(18) And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
Deuteronomy 31:24-26 KJV
(24) And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished,
(25) That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying,
(26) Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.

Notice the ten commandments were written by God while Moses wrote laws which were placed in the side of the ark. They are not the same laws. Deuteronomy 28 for example is full of blessings and curses. Blessings for obedience curses for disobedience. Because they were disobedient they needed to be redeemed from the curse.

Galatians 3:13 KJV
(13) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:


Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, He did not free us from keeping the law.

Ezekiel 36:26-27 KJV
(26) A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
(27) And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

These texts are clear that keeping the law is a result of a new heart and spirit within us and the Holy Spirit. If we have those then verse 27 says God will cause us to keep His statutes. A new birth will result in God causing us to keep His law.

Philippians 2:13 KJV
(13) For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.