How to keep the Sabbath.

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parablepete

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I share the scriptures later. The Sabbath was for the Jews. We as Gentials had no hope. Christ tore down the middle wall between us make us one in Christ. Bottom line is that the Old Law has been done away. In Matt. 5 we are told that if we are are angry at our bother we have already killed him. You have heard said of old time that and man shall not kill. But, I/Christ say whoever is angry at his brother has killed him already. Same is true with Adultry, You have heard said of old time that a man shall not comitt Adultry, But I/Christ says who so ever looks at a woman has committed Adultry alrady in his heart. I'll share more tonight. Late!
 

Hizikyah

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your answer was wrong.
study....get back to me.
Ohh Zone, always running to the defence of the uiversal church, who says atheisitist can go to heaven, gays are ok, has put the pope as "vaicar of christ" (ruler over heaven, earth, and the under regions) has placed "Mary" as intercessor, a role that Scripture says belongs only to Messiah. Yet it is of no surprise, you doctrine was the same doctrine invented by a jesuit priest.
 

zone

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Ohh Zone, always running to the defence of the uiversal church, who says atheisitist can go to heaven, gays are ok, has put the pope as "vaicar of christ" (ruler over heaven, earth, and the under regions) has placed "Mary" as intercessor, a role that Scripture says belongs only to Messiah. Yet it is of no surprise, you doctrine was the same doctrine invented by a jesuit priest.
Hizikyah, now that you have once again made allegations that are very serious, and you have done publically....now you must go and find the posts where i have:

- said atheisitist can go to heaven (i presume you mean atheists)
- gays are ok (i assume you mean i have somewhere said unrepentant homosexuals will not be judged to hell)
- that the pope as "vaicar of christ" is just fine and not antichrist
- and that "Mary" as intercessor is good

you say i defend the universal church - which you appear to equate with Catholicism.
go get all the places ive said what you accuse me of.

and prove this (hopefully you`ll explain what in the heck youre talking about first - i doubt it, since youre a very confused lad):

Yet it is of no surprise, you doctrine was the same doctrine invented by a jesuit priest.

would that be the Amillennial eschatological position i guess.

back all this up.
as quickly as possible.
it didnt take long to make the serious claims, it ought not to take long to document them.
 

zone

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and for the umpteenth time will you please document from the bible who is spoken of in Daniel 7:25.
the Bible identifies the man....you however, do not know the Bible.

so who is it spoken of in Dan 7:25.
 
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Laodicea

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I share the scriptures later. The Sabbath was for the Jews. We as Gentials had no hope. Christ tore down the middle wall between us make us one in Christ. Bottom line is that the Old Law has been done away. In Matt. 5 we are told that if we are are angry at our bother we have already killed him. You have heard said of old time that and man shall not kill. But, I/Christ say whoever is angry at his brother has killed him already. Same is true with Adultry, You have heard said of old time that a man shall not comitt Adultry, But I/Christ says who so ever looks at a woman has committed Adultry alrady in his heart. I'll share more tonight. Late!
Mark 2:27 KJV
(27) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

Jesus disagrees with you.
 

zone

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Hizikyah

Ohh Zone, always running to the defence of the uiversal church, who says atheisitist can go to heaven, gays are ok, has put the pope as "vaicar of christ" (ruler over heaven, earth, and the under regions) has placed "Mary" as intercessor, a role that Scripture says belongs only to Messiah. Yet it is of no surprise, you doctrine was the same doctrine invented by a jesuit priest.
Hizikyah, now that you have once again made allegations that are very serious, and you have done publically....now you must go and find the posts where i have:

- said atheisitist can go to heaven (i presume you mean atheists)
- gays are ok (i assume you mean i have somewhere said unrepentant homosexuals will not be judged to hell)
- that the pope as "vaicar of christ" is just fine and not antichrist
- and that "Mary" as intercessor is good

you say i defend the universal church - which you appear to equate with Catholicism.
go get all the places ive said what you accuse me of.

and prove this (hopefully you`ll explain what in the heck youre talking about first - i doubt it, since youre a very confused lad):

Yet it is of no surprise, you doctrine was the same doctrine invented by a jesuit priest.

would that be the Amillennial eschatological position i guess.

back all this up.
as quickly as possible.
it didnt take long to make the serious claims, it ought not to take long to document them.
and for the umpteenth time will you please document from the bible who is spoken of in Daniel 7:25.
the Bible identifies the man....you however, do not know the Bible.

so who is it spoken of in Dan 7:25.
 

iamsoandso

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I mean no disrespect but there's not scriptural backup for your comments.

Whoever commits sin also commits lawlessness, and sin is lawlessness. 1 John 3:4
""""""GALATIANS,5;4",,,,,,,,SEE POST,350 to see if the scriptures say if it nullifies the grace or not,,,,,,
 
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Hizikyah

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Hizikyah, now that you have once again made allegations that are very serious, and you have done publically....now you must go and find the posts where i have:

- said atheisitist can go to heaven (i presume you mean atheists)
- gays are ok (i assume you mean i have somewhere said unrepentant homosexuals will not be judged to hell)
- that the pope as "vaicar of christ" is just fine and not antichrist
- and that "Mary" as intercessor is good

you say i defend the universal church - which you appear to equate with Catholicism.
go get all the places ive said what you accuse me of.

and prove this (hopefully you`ll explain what in the heck youre talking about first - i doubt it, since youre a very confused lad):

Yet it is of no surprise, you doctrine was the same doctrine invented by a jesuit priest.

would that be the Amillennial eschatological position i guess.

back all this up.
as quickly as possible.
it didnt take long to make the serious claims, it ought not to take long to document them.
I did not say you said gays are ok and atheists go to heaven, I said the catholic church claims that.

About you I said that you defend them, which you do by always saying that they are not mystery babylon, I have provided much evidence, you never break down all the verses i provide evidence for showing me how I am wrong and what the "truth" is. So I can not take you serious but can only say you conceal mystery babylons identity, whether you know it or not. And yes you follow a doctrine that was created by jesuits, youe 1000 year regin having gone on for about 2000 yrs now, they created that so the pope can "reign as vicar of christ" and "the kingdom is NOW on earth." LIES

I have answered you Daniyl question once on this thread and on another, you acknowledged my answer by saying I was wrong, yet you now claim I did not answer.

1 Yahchanan (John) 2:18, "Little children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Anti- Messiah will come, even now there are many Anti-Messiahs; by this we know that this is the last hour."

Revelation 13:18, "Here is wisdom: Let him who has understanding count the number of the beast; for it is the number of a man. And his number is 666."

Daniyl 8:11-13, "Yes, he magnified himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of the sanctuary was cast down. And a host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practiced, and succeeded. Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said to the one that spoke: How long will be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the setting up of The Abomination of Desolation (Lord of Heaven), and the surrender of the sanctuary, and the host to be trampled underfoot?

as high as the Prince of the host that means as high as Yahshua this man calles himself. = Vicarius Filii Del





See the cheribims? he thinks he sitting on the mecry seat, that is the Most High's seat
2 Thessalonians 2:4, "Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called gods or that is worshiped; so that he, as the Almighty, sits in the temple of Yahweh, showing himself that he is the Mighty One"
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Revelation 17:4-5, "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication. And upon her head was a name written: MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF THE HARLOTS hAND OF THE iABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."



Revelation 17:9, "And here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits."


Revelation 13:6, "And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against Yahweh, to blaspheme His Name, and His House, and those who dwell in heaven."

"No 'Yahweh' in songs, prayers at Catholic Masses, Vatican rules"
catholicnews.com

Daniyl 7:25, "And he will speak great words against Yahweh, and will wear out; mentally attack to cause to fall away,
the saints of Yahweh, and think to change times and Laws"

This was done by Constantine, making sunday "the sabbath" because he was a worshiper of sol invictus mithra. Constantine was the first religious and governmental lead the 4th beast ever had. A role now called, pope.

"The Pope is of great authority and power that he can modify, explain, or interpret even divine laws... The Pope can modify divine law, since his power is not of man, but of God, and he acts as vicegerent of God upon earth." -Lucius Ferraris, Prompta Ribliotheca, "Papa," art. 2, translated.

“Sunday is our mark or authority...the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact.” Catholic Record of London, Ontario, September 1, 1923.
 

iamsoandso

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,,,,,,,,,,,"read Galatians 5;4",,,,,,,,,
 

Hizikyah

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,,,,,,,,,,,"read Galatians 5;4",,,,,,,,,
trying to be justified by Law and being subject to Yahweh's Law are 2 different things.

tell me this who is your savior Messiah or Paul?

because Yahshua the Messiah says this about the Law of Yah:

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
 

homwardbound

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Isaiah 30:9-10

King James Version (KJV)

9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the Lord:
10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:


you are only quoting scripture out of context
So what are saying using scripture back? say it directly, do you mean to call me a liar?
 

homwardbound

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yes, you gave an reply that had nothing to do with the question, my post and last few have been about focus on Yah and obedience, HIS WAY.

My response was and is I focus on Father through Christ constant 24?7, with thanksgiving and praise
 

homwardbound

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Question: How do you know you are circumcised in the heart? And if you be circumcised in the heart, are God's laws meant for you?
Father does this by the resurrected Christ were we thus worship in Spirit and truth
John 4:23-24
And only Father Jesus's can do this Jesus's job completed John 19:30 we are presented to Father for new life in Father in the Spirit by the resurrected Christ
Col. 1:21-23
 

zone

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I did not say you said gays are ok and atheists go to heaven, I said the catholic church claims that.
no apology, then i suppose.

About you I said that you defend them, which you do by always saying that they are not mystery babylon,
again, you accuse me of defending the Catholic Church.
GET THE PROOF. right away, please.

About you I said that you defend them, which you do by always saying that they are not mystery babylon,
so understanding who is identified as Mystery Babylon the Great ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE...equates with defending the Catholic Church?

what you are doing is

1) mishandling scripture by not correctly identifying WHAT CITY/ENTITY GOD ALMIGHTY HIMSELF said was Mystery Babylon
2) you dishonor God by not studying and or believing His Word
3) instead of discussing the Catholic Church on its own lack of merit (theres plenty)...you USE GODS WORD and MISUSE IT to MISIDENTIFY the Harlot.

the great irony is, it is you who is most closely allied with any artifact of the Great Whore.
and oddly enough, she appears to be alive and well again.

in the future, do not use Gods Word to further your egotistical presumptions about things you do not understand.

now go get the proof where i defend the Catholic Church by knowing the identity of Mystery Babylon.

post ten million pictures of the Vatican if you want to - it doesn't make it the Great Whore of Revelation.

if you want help identifying her - FROM THE HOLY WRIT, i am willing.
 

Hizikyah

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My response was and is I focus on Father through Christ constant 24?7, with thanksgiving and praise
I feel you glossed over all the examples I made.

Fact is one is not focusing of Yah when they are working, going to school, mowing the lawn, driving, cooking, doing dishes, laundry, etc. 0%, 5%, or 99% focus is not 100% focus.

There is a difference between living our life for Yah WHICH can be done 100% of the time and should be, and focusing on Yah, which can not be done every day 100%, if ones schedule permits they may be able to do it 1-3, 4 days a week, but none can do it 24/7 100%, anyone who claims this is not be realistic or honest.
 

iamsoandso

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trying to be justified by Law and being subject to Yahweh's Law are 2 different things.

tell me this who is your savior Messiah or Paul?

because Yahshua the Messiah says this about the Law of Yah:

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Mattithyah 7:23, "But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

iniquity is:#0458 ἀνομία anomia {an-om-ee'-ah} from G0459

Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness
and your response is that we lay aside and apostle and harken to you?,,,,where is it written that "Hizikyah will be born,and in 2013 disprove what Paul taught and we should all follow you"????