i'm not condemning anyone, all i'm saying is that it's not necessary to keep the sabbath but some of you make it seem like we must do it, someone even told me we need to keep it to be saved that's all, let me ask you this you knew the purpose of the sabbath in the first place? it's not like taking a day off from work like some of you think it was to get spiritually close with God, now tell me this if someone receives the holy spirit and they are eternally worshipping with christ in spirit and in truth where does the sabbath come in?
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we are married to christ... there is no law because we love him and he loves us, do you tell your wives " now i'm going on vacation and when i go there i don't want you looking at any man in a wrong way or giving trouble " you don't say that.... because you love herr and she loves you it's the same thing with christ [h=3]Galatians 5:22-23[/h]King James Version (KJV)
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
[h=3]Romans 10:4[/h]King James Version (KJV)
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
alot of people are gonna have to anwser for this in the judgement time... for seeing this scripture and for me telling you it and completely rejecting it, if you still hanging on to something other than God you should ask yourself, did you receive christ in the first place?
[h=3]Acts 19:2[/h]King James Version (KJV)
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
[h=3]Romans 10:4[/h]King James Version (KJV)
4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
alot of people are gonna have to anwser for this in the judgement time... for seeing this scripture and for me telling you it and completely rejecting it, if you still hanging on to something other than God you should ask yourself, did you receive christ in the first place?
[h=3]Acts 19:2[/h]King James Version (KJV)
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
The true Sabbath is not Saturday or Sunday. It is a period of time by God we are commanded to REMEMBER. A day with the Lord is as 1000 years. 6000 years man was given to do his work. the last 1000 is separated not by man but by God. We discern the times by how much is given us to live on. On the 6th "day" we were to receive double.
This is manifested in what we see like the internet. 20 million homes that are empty alone in America. 1000's upon 1000's of cars new and used sitting in lots. 1000's upon 1000's of computers, TV's, tablets, and smartphones sit on shelves here and around the world. Enough food not only for 12 billion people, but the capacity to now grow and sustain those levels even without using soil! We only have 7 billion alive!
Now you all can continue to debate and argue about Saturday or Sunday and how to keep it, but when this "day" begins, none of that will mean a thing. The only thing keeping you from entering the gates into the kingdom LIVING is yourselves! You have eyes to look, but you do not see. And you have ears to perceive but you do not see.
Well I say look! Look at the abundance of the Lord! Stop loving mammon. No man can serve two masters! Stop working for a paycheck and work for God, who is life and that everlasting!
His day will begin with the world wide economic crash. Then Saturday and Sunday will mean about as much being a Christian or a Muslim. Absolutely nothing if both have to pay rent, light and gas bills!
These are true words. I love you all and if I want to defeat my enemy, I need you all to live! Because my enemy is death and I was born to live!
This is manifested in what we see like the internet. 20 million homes that are empty alone in America. 1000's upon 1000's of cars new and used sitting in lots. 1000's upon 1000's of computers, TV's, tablets, and smartphones sit on shelves here and around the world. Enough food not only for 12 billion people, but the capacity to now grow and sustain those levels even without using soil! We only have 7 billion alive!
Now you all can continue to debate and argue about Saturday or Sunday and how to keep it, but when this "day" begins, none of that will mean a thing. The only thing keeping you from entering the gates into the kingdom LIVING is yourselves! You have eyes to look, but you do not see. And you have ears to perceive but you do not see.
Well I say look! Look at the abundance of the Lord! Stop loving mammon. No man can serve two masters! Stop working for a paycheck and work for God, who is life and that everlasting!
His day will begin with the world wide economic crash. Then Saturday and Sunday will mean about as much being a Christian or a Muslim. Absolutely nothing if both have to pay rent, light and gas bills!
These are true words. I love you all and if I want to defeat my enemy, I need you all to live! Because my enemy is death and I was born to live!
Agreed!!!
Many might be missing the point that Sabbath is not necessarily this day or that day. It is actually and intermission related to the Hebrew word "shabath" meaning to repose or detest the physical exertion necessary to exist naturally. But I interject, "Sabbath" is to be kept holy as to do good as Jesus did, in the spirit of truth. Rest then is seen as a type of celebration from yet including the other 6 days in which work got it done, whenever they may be according to the calendar one lives by. This is all physical or natural.
In like manner, but in the Spirit, we also celebrate the time we are given to spend in prayer and in study according to this divine break given by the Holy Spirit. With that said, if we argue about the right and wrong of it from both sides, that might be a tool of deception causing us to totally miss the point in why God ordained the Sabbath for us. It was made for us, and we were not made for it. I choose to take advantage of this that is given to us by a merciful God. If we deny its spiritual intent, it is equal to denying any other spiritual gifts that God gives His children for the edification of the body of Christ.
Many might be missing the point that Sabbath is not necessarily this day or that day. It is actually and intermission related to the Hebrew word "shabath" meaning to repose or detest the physical exertion necessary to exist naturally. But I interject, "Sabbath" is to be kept holy as to do good as Jesus did, in the spirit of truth. Rest then is seen as a type of celebration from yet including the other 6 days in which work got it done, whenever they may be according to the calendar one lives by. This is all physical or natural.
In like manner, but in the Spirit, we also celebrate the time we are given to spend in prayer and in study according to this divine break given by the Holy Spirit. With that said, if we argue about the right and wrong of it from both sides, that might be a tool of deception causing us to totally miss the point in why God ordained the Sabbath for us. It was made for us, and we were not made for it. I choose to take advantage of this that is given to us by a merciful God. If we deny its spiritual intent, it is equal to denying any other spiritual gifts that God gives His children for the edification of the body of Christ.
Bless your heart brother, but the "fruit of the Spirit" is first mentioned in the Old Testament. The law cannot be against itself.
Galatians 5:22-23 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
The reason that there is no law against the “fruit of the Spirit” is because it is the law and the prophets. These nine attributes are defined as a single fruit.
Matthew 12:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
The disciples who walked directly with Jesus didn't have a full understanding immediately, and gaining understanding in order to walk in the truth was and is imperative.
John 16:12-13
12. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
As we continue in ALL of the word, and grow and mature, I believe that we are given more as we are able to bear it and to walk in it, and it's out with the old leaven, and in with the new. Was this fruit something endorsed in the Epistles only, or was it God’s will from the beginning? Here’s your answer.
Exodus 20:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Leviticus 19:18 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Deuteronomy 5:10 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
1 Kings 1:40 (KJV)
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And all the people came up after him, and the people piped with pipes, and rejoiced with great joy, so that the earth rent with the sound of them.
Isaiah 12:3 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.
Exodus 18:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]If thou shalt do this thing, and God command thee so, then thou shalt be able to endure, and all this people shall also go to their place in peace.
Leviticus 3:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And if his offering for a sacrifice of peace offering unto the LORD be of the flock; male or female, he shall offer it without blemish.
Exodus 34:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
2 Samuel 22:36 (KJV)
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation: and thy gentleness hath made me great.
Faith is/was ordained as an Old Testament principle to be kept as a priority in the New Testament.
Habakkuk 2:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
Romans 1:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Psalm 45:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things.
Temperance is self-control as in “not to covet,” or “being drunk” “gluttonous” and so on. It is exhortation of the fruit of the spirit that I endorsed in the only negative, for covet is an attribute of the carnal, and the opposite is the attribute of the Lord’s Holy Spirit
Exodus 20:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Deuteronomy 21:20-21 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
We would never dream of stoning our own children for being drunk, or rebellious today, but we must still recognize this spiritual aspect. Any loving parent would desire to destroy those actions before they destroy their children. That’s what Jesus has done. God’s love wants us to be separated from those transgressions that separate us from Him. Parents that truly love their children will have the same desire.
Isaiah 32:15-17 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
When we study the Mosaic Law we should concentrate on the spiritual meanings, relating those ordinances to the fulfillment of all things through Christ. If the law is spiritual, as Paul said, then we should always be searching for the spiritual meaning. Some will be confrontational saying that Christians need to make a choice between Paul and Moses. They were both called to do God's will in the time sequence God had determined. Why fight about what part of the Word of God is negated when none of it is? If God wanted it to be invalid, He wouldn't have preserved it. If one is going to follow Paul instead of Moses, then they should quit endorsing the Law in the physical realm, rather than the spiritual, because they actually are contradicting the very teachings from the man that they say they are following.
It's the carnal mind that concentrates on carnal thoughts, convincing itself of a righteousness that can be found in less than 100% of God. This frame of mind actually believes in itself as being more righteous than the Pharisees because they have determined the Mosaic Law as invalid, extinct, and negated through Christ. There is a rhetorical question that we should ask ourselves. Does the strength of the law expose the weakness of the flesh, or does the strength of the salvation expose the weakness of the law? One cannot have it both ways.
Romans 8:3-7 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Galatians 5:22-23 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
The reason that there is no law against the “fruit of the Spirit” is because it is the law and the prophets. These nine attributes are defined as a single fruit.
Matthew 12:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:
The disciples who walked directly with Jesus didn't have a full understanding immediately, and gaining understanding in order to walk in the truth was and is imperative.
John 16:12-13
12. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
As we continue in ALL of the word, and grow and mature, I believe that we are given more as we are able to bear it and to walk in it, and it's out with the old leaven, and in with the new. Was this fruit something endorsed in the Epistles only, or was it God’s will from the beginning? Here’s your answer.
Exodus 20:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Leviticus 19:18 (KJV)
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.
Deuteronomy 5:10 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.
1 Kings 1:40 (KJV)
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And all the people came up after him, and the people piped with pipes, and rejoiced with great joy, so that the earth rent with the sound of them.
Isaiah 12:3 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Therefore with joy shall ye draw water out of the wells of salvation.
Exodus 18:23 (KJV)
[SUP]23 [/SUP]If thou shalt do this thing, and God command thee so, then thou shalt be able to endure, and all this people shall also go to their place in peace.
Leviticus 3:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And if his offering for a sacrifice of peace offering unto the LORD be of the flock; male or female, he shall offer it without blemish.
Exodus 34:6 (KJV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth,
2 Samuel 22:36 (KJV)
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation: and thy gentleness hath made me great.
Faith is/was ordained as an Old Testament principle to be kept as a priority in the New Testament.
Habakkuk 2:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
Romans 1:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Psalm 45:4 (KJV)
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And in thy majesty ride prosperously because of truth and meekness and righteousness; and thy right hand shall teach thee terrible things.
Temperance is self-control as in “not to covet,” or “being drunk” “gluttonous” and so on. It is exhortation of the fruit of the spirit that I endorsed in the only negative, for covet is an attribute of the carnal, and the opposite is the attribute of the Lord’s Holy Spirit
Exodus 20:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
Deuteronomy 21:20-21 (KJV)
[SUP]20 [/SUP]And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
We would never dream of stoning our own children for being drunk, or rebellious today, but we must still recognize this spiritual aspect. Any loving parent would desire to destroy those actions before they destroy their children. That’s what Jesus has done. God’s love wants us to be separated from those transgressions that separate us from Him. Parents that truly love their children will have the same desire.
Isaiah 32:15-17 (KJV)
[SUP]15 [/SUP]Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.
When we study the Mosaic Law we should concentrate on the spiritual meanings, relating those ordinances to the fulfillment of all things through Christ. If the law is spiritual, as Paul said, then we should always be searching for the spiritual meaning. Some will be confrontational saying that Christians need to make a choice between Paul and Moses. They were both called to do God's will in the time sequence God had determined. Why fight about what part of the Word of God is negated when none of it is? If God wanted it to be invalid, He wouldn't have preserved it. If one is going to follow Paul instead of Moses, then they should quit endorsing the Law in the physical realm, rather than the spiritual, because they actually are contradicting the very teachings from the man that they say they are following.
It's the carnal mind that concentrates on carnal thoughts, convincing itself of a righteousness that can be found in less than 100% of God. This frame of mind actually believes in itself as being more righteous than the Pharisees because they have determined the Mosaic Law as invalid, extinct, and negated through Christ. There is a rhetorical question that we should ask ourselves. Does the strength of the law expose the weakness of the flesh, or does the strength of the salvation expose the weakness of the law? One cannot have it both ways.
Romans 8:3-7 (KJV)
[SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
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Josh
It's good to keep the Sabbath, so don't let my agreement cause you to think that the Sabbath is extinct. Read all of what I posted and you will see where I'm coming from. What I agreed with is that keeping this day or that day in the frame of mind that is physical means about as much as being circumcised in the flesh, yet not in the heart. Ritually keeping customs and laws in only the physical sense is worthless I believe. The Spiritual aspects of the Sabbath are not to be neglected. And whatever works for this person or that person in the sight of God, (Him approving,) is right, and not to be condemned.
It's good to keep the Sabbath, so don't let my agreement cause you to think that the Sabbath is extinct. Read all of what I posted and you will see where I'm coming from. What I agreed with is that keeping this day or that day in the frame of mind that is physical means about as much as being circumcised in the flesh, yet not in the heart. Ritually keeping customs and laws in only the physical sense is worthless I believe. The Spiritual aspects of the Sabbath are not to be neglected. And whatever works for this person or that person in the sight of God, (Him approving,) is right, and not to be condemned.
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Look what is written in NEW TESTAMENT
18"For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19"Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20"For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
You are a modern day pharisee who abolish God's law and replace it with your own.
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Glory of the New Covenant
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, [SUP]8 [/SUP]how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? [SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech— [SUP]13 [/SUP]unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. [SUP]14 [/SUP]But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. [SUP]15 [/SUP]But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. [SUP]18 [/SUP]But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord. 2 CORINTHIANS 3:7-18
[SUP]7 [/SUP]But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, [SUP]8 [/SUP]how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? [SUP]9 [/SUP]For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. [SUP]10 [/SUP]For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. [SUP]11 [/SUP]For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech— [SUP]13 [/SUP]unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. [SUP]14 [/SUP]But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. [SUP]15 [/SUP]But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. [SUP]16 [/SUP]Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. [SUP]17 [/SUP]Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. [SUP]18 [/SUP]But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord. 2 CORINTHIANS 3:7-18
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Agreed and for me I see every day Holy thanks to Christ's finished work at the cross, in thanksgiving and praise as in psalms 100:4
If I do my job and reserve this one day a week observance and thus feel good about me afterwards, Could I or will I get an attitude of Saturday night sinner and Sunday morning repenter?
Or a Thursday night sinner and a Friday night repenter? Will I get, (my unredeemed flesh) in the way of Father and Son?
Are we to be dead to flesh or not? And alive to God or not? is this every day or just one day a week?
This regurgitated law-cultist talking point needs to stop. The law itself has not been destroyed, but its authority has been rendered void in those who believe in Christ.
The law worshipers can't see that it has been changed. I think they are under a delusion about the law.
Law worshipers? regurgitating? No authority from what is holy, just, good, and spiritual? If the law is God's Word, how are we all suppose to esteem it?
John 1:1 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
When the law was put in your heart did it change, or did your heart change the law when it was put there?
Jeremiah 31:33b (KJV)
[SUP]33b [/SUP]I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
It is irritating to spar back and forth in a never ending conversation trying to convince people that we have it right, when you know very will within your heart that others will never be in aw of your great knowledge, and will never have the incentive to see the truth because we are so busy to get people to listen to us rather than God's word. One last question concerning this scripture in Daniel. Who is wearing out the saints and thinking to change times, and laws?
Daniel 7:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
If a person cannot understand the spiritual relevance to the law, there should develop in the heart a fear. Hebrews mentions “a change,” in the Priesthood, and that High Priest said nothing else would be taken from it. You who are against the law only see the physical, and carnal aspects of the law, or a least that’s the way it comes across to those that read your comments. If one can’t see this, there should be a fear inside us that becomes very prevalent. Wisdom is lacking here.
Proverbs 9:10 (KJV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP]The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy isunderstanding.
There is a flesh law of commandments and a Spiritual Law of truth, which one does the complete filling? Flesh or Spirit of God?
LOL the post that she quoted was originally mine without adding nothing to it. If one stops and really thinks about God being "love," all that God speaks is grounded in love.
1 John 4:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Therefore, all of what God has ever said is grounded in love. So the fullness of the law is in the realm of a complete love. All of the law manifests the love of God. There is no division in the law. Through the Holy Spirit we can see the love that condemns the sin that keeps us apart from Him. To the Christian it remains a tool for us to die daily by looking into the law of liberty so we can see ourselves as God sees.
James 1:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
James 2:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
1 John 4:16 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Therefore, all of what God has ever said is grounded in love. So the fullness of the law is in the realm of a complete love. All of the law manifests the love of God. There is no division in the law. Through the Holy Spirit we can see the love that condemns the sin that keeps us apart from Him. To the Christian it remains a tool for us to die daily by looking into the law of liberty so we can see ourselves as God sees.
James 1:25 (KJV)
[SUP]25 [/SUP]But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.
James 2:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP]So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
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Okay, thank you for that reply, appreciated
So then I must not ever sin again ever right or else? Am I reading this right?
Or are you saying I need to keep a contrite heart and continue to try as they did in the First Testament with animal sacrifices to be clean again over and over once a year?
Except now today we are not using animal sacrifice or shedding of blood, yet we are daily asking God to forgive us of any and all sin, with no sacrifice and or shedding of Blood
How can this be????????
So then I must not ever sin again ever right or else? Am I reading this right?
Or are you saying I need to keep a contrite heart and continue to try as they did in the First Testament with animal sacrifices to be clean again over and over once a year?
Except now today we are not using animal sacrifice or shedding of blood, yet we are daily asking God to forgive us of any and all sin, with no sacrifice and or shedding of Blood
How can this be????????
If everyday is the same in God's eyes, then why would scripture tell us this? Gen 2:3 So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all the work that he had done in creation.
If there isn't something special we should learn about one of the seven days of the week, why is it mentioned so often in scripture.
The word flesh in the bible means the sin we do. We are to be dead to that. We are not supposed to live without our bodies, we only do that when we physically die.
If there isn't something special we should learn about one of the seven days of the week, why is it mentioned so often in scripture.
The word flesh in the bible means the sin we do. We are to be dead to that. We are not supposed to live without our bodies, we only do that when we physically die.
By the body of Christ we are:
Colossians 1:22 in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
I am resting on Father, through Son
Colossians 1:22 in the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
I am resting on Father, through Son
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God does not lie. If He says they are not hard then they are not hard.
Deut 30....Surely, this commandment that I am commanding you today is not too hard for you, nor is it too far away. It is not in heaven, that you should say, “Who will go up to heaven for us, and get it for us so that we may hear it and observe it?” Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, “Who will cross to the other side of the sea for us, and get it for us so that we may hear it and observe it?” No, the word is very near to you; it is in your mouth and in your heart for you to observe.
He sent His Son to save, not because His Law is hard to keep, it's because man is weak because we give in to sin so readily. That truly shows He is love.
Deut 30....Surely, this commandment that I am commanding you today is not too hard for you, nor is it too far away. It is not in heaven, that you should say, “Who will go up to heaven for us, and get it for us so that we may hear it and observe it?” Neither is it beyond the sea, that you should say, “Who will cross to the other side of the sea for us, and get it for us so that we may hear it and observe it?” No, the word is very near to you; it is in your mouth and in your heart for you to observe.
He sent His Son to save, not because His Law is hard to keep, it's because man is weak because we give in to sin so readily. That truly shows He is love.
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