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What Adam did was become aware of sin, before he "ate of the tree" sin was there he had no knowledge of it. Adam changed our DNA only.
Biblically, the bible says that the world was void. That word void was translated from the original Hebrew word choshek. Some translation use the word darkness to translate it. Don't you posters believe that is what bible says? Darkness is the opposite of God's light. Not sunlight, God's light.
Biblically, the bible says that the world was void. That word void was translated from the original Hebrew word choshek. Some translation use the word darkness to translate it. Don't you posters believe that is what bible says? Darkness is the opposite of God's light. Not sunlight, God's light.
Thank you.
In studying the feast of tabernacles, it is evident that God gives revelation at the appropriate times in the course of events. It indicates that there are question. What, when where how, and so on.
1 Corinthians 3:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
Isaiah 28:9-13 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
Galatians 4:1-5 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
1 Corinthians 3:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP]I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
Isaiah 28:9-13 (KJV)
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
Galatians 4:1-5 (KJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP]Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
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To the OP...
You either believe scripture, ALL of it, or you don't. If you don't believe the 6 day creation account, then you have no reason to believe John 3:16...
And to everyone else...
JUST STOP REPLYING "COMPLETELY" TO "DopeofReality" and the other hellbound, satanic, purveyors of dissent among the brethren TROLLS!!! Thier eternal torment awaits, and you will NEVER change thier demonic minds as thier sole purpose is to bring God's people to destruction...Just IGNORE them. They're just "baiting" you in order to belittle and mock you, your beliefs, your faith, and your God. God Himself damns them...
You either believe scripture, ALL of it, or you don't. If you don't believe the 6 day creation account, then you have no reason to believe John 3:16...
And to everyone else...
JUST STOP REPLYING "COMPLETELY" TO "DopeofReality" and the other hellbound, satanic, purveyors of dissent among the brethren TROLLS!!! Thier eternal torment awaits, and you will NEVER change thier demonic minds as thier sole purpose is to bring God's people to destruction...Just IGNORE them. They're just "baiting" you in order to belittle and mock you, your beliefs, your faith, and your God. God Himself damns them...
Genesis 1
1 In the beginning God ( Elohim ) created the heavens and the earth. [SUP]2 [/SUP]The earth was without form ( tohu= ruin), and void (bohu = emptiness); and darkness ( no understanding ) was[SUP] [/SUP] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering ( like a hen over her young) over the face of the waters
Isaiah 45:18
For thus says the Lord, Who created the heavens, Who is God, Who formed the earth and made it, Who has established it, Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited: “I am the Lord, and there is no other
Jeremiah 4: 22"For My people are foolish, They know Me not; They are stupid children And have no understanding. They are shrewd to do evil, But to do good they do not know." 23 I looked on the earth, and behold, it was formless and void; And to the heavens, and they had no light
1 In the beginning God ( Elohim ) created the heavens and the earth. [SUP]2 [/SUP]The earth was without form ( tohu= ruin), and void (bohu = emptiness); and darkness ( no understanding ) was[SUP] [/SUP] on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering ( like a hen over her young) over the face of the waters
Isaiah 45:18
For thus says the Lord, Who created the heavens, Who is God, Who formed the earth and made it, Who has established it, Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited: “I am the Lord, and there is no other
Jeremiah 4: 22"For My people are foolish, They know Me not; They are stupid children And have no understanding. They are shrewd to do evil, But to do good they do not know." 23 I looked on the earth, and behold, it was formless and void; And to the heavens, and they had no light
LClark, I read the article and do agree, the Bible does not require us to believe that the universe was created in six 24 hour days, a mere 6000 years ago only. This interpretation is partially the result of King James (I'm a KJV advocate) and earlier translators, those who, at that time were not even aware of such things as dinosaur fossils. Genesis 1:1 does teach that God created that of which the universe consists---out of nothing. In this I firmly believe, but there is not enough detail in these chapters to say exactly when time, space, matter and energy were created (again, out of nothing). Yes, scripture does say that in six days the Lord God made heaven and earth, but "made," in this context does not mean "create" as in Genesis 1:1. Do a word study on "made" and you will better understand this. This best explantion on this subject I know of is in the book Bible Antiquities by the late scholar and archaeologist E. Raymond Capt. Brother Capt's old earth explanation is very convincing.
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Thanks. I'm leaning toward that thought. Have you read G. H. Pember's, Earth's Earliest Ages? I know LClark didn't want me to mention it, but it is very difficult not to mention the "G" word. (Funny. People seem to get so riled when you mention it too.) I wonder what that's all about? Problem with the "G" idea, is it has grown into too many different concepts as to what the original idea was. Ruined, just like everything that the enemy does.
The reason I'm so interested in it is because of losing our young people in college who get bombarded with the evolution stuff. Why are we losing them? Because we are giving them the wrong information and they have no weapons against the secularists.
Here is an interesting statement during his time by E. B Pusey, D.D., from his book Daniel the Prophet:
"This has been, for some thirty years, a deep conviction Man's defenses are man's word; they may help to beat off attacks, they may draw out some portion of its meaning. The Bible is God's Word, and through it God the Holy Ghost, Who spake it, speaks to the soul which closes not itself against it.
But if defenses are weak, except as far as God enables us to build them, or Himself "builds the house" through man, defenses, not built as He would have them, will not only fall, but will crush those who trust them. The faith can receive no real injury except from its defenders. Against its assailants, those who wish to be safe, God protects. If the faith shall be (God forbid!) destroyed in England, it will be not by open assailants, (such as the writer in the Westminster Review) but by those who think that they defend it, while they have themselves lost it. So it was in Germany. Rationalism was the product, not of the attacks on the Gospel but of its weak defenders. Each generation, in its controversies with unbelief, conceded more of the faith, until at last it was difficult to see what difference there was between assailants and defenders."
The reason I'm so interested in it is because of losing our young people in college who get bombarded with the evolution stuff. Why are we losing them? Because we are giving them the wrong information and they have no weapons against the secularists.
Here is an interesting statement during his time by E. B Pusey, D.D., from his book Daniel the Prophet:
"This has been, for some thirty years, a deep conviction Man's defenses are man's word; they may help to beat off attacks, they may draw out some portion of its meaning. The Bible is God's Word, and through it God the Holy Ghost, Who spake it, speaks to the soul which closes not itself against it.
But if defenses are weak, except as far as God enables us to build them, or Himself "builds the house" through man, defenses, not built as He would have them, will not only fall, but will crush those who trust them. The faith can receive no real injury except from its defenders. Against its assailants, those who wish to be safe, God protects. If the faith shall be (God forbid!) destroyed in England, it will be not by open assailants, (such as the writer in the Westminster Review) but by those who think that they defend it, while they have themselves lost it. So it was in Germany. Rationalism was the product, not of the attacks on the Gospel but of its weak defenders. Each generation, in its controversies with unbelief, conceded more of the faith, until at last it was difficult to see what difference there was between assailants and defenders."
