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concernedguy
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Hi,
There is no place in the Bible nor did Jesus teach a person can not be saved without being baptized.
In fact, Jesus proved baptism isn't required when Jesus told the one on the cross, "This day you will
be with me in glory." This person was not baptized. Either Jesus is a liar or you have misunderstood.
No offense intended to you but I'm going to go with Jesus on this one.
Baptism has never saved anyone and it never will. If it did, we have no need for Christ and His death
was in vain.
In order for a person to be saved, the Bible lays out a specific course of events.
The hearing of God's Word. Conviction due to the sins we have committed. Asking Christ to forgive
our sin. State we believe through Christ's death on the cross, His resurrection from death and in
His power and mercy, we ask Christ to remove our sins, cleanse us and devote our life to Him.
Once these steps have been accomplished, if you wish to, you can be baptized which provides
you a starting point in Christ by symbolizing the death of your sinful life and the beginning of
your new life in Christ. Baptism also stands as a public profession of your faith in Christ.
Baptism is an outward expression of our faith in Christ and not an inward ritual we must
follow.
Jesus condemned all those placing the rituals of The Law on the shoulders of Christ's Forgiven.
Christ is the only one we follow and in Him is total freedom. There are no rituals to follow.
Christ's teachings state that as a new being in Christ, you will follow His teachings, precepts
and seek His guidance in all you do.
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sweet_eyes
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coachsteve
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no one knows who the anti-christ is yet... not anyone.... who ever claims to be talking these things is called a false prophet....
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Moshelijah
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Beast has a mark on the forehead ........The catholic church and her daughter church's puts a cross on your forehead.
The Beast has a mark on the right hand .....catholics make the sign of the cross on the right hand.
The Beast has a statue to worship ...............catholics worship the cross.
The Beast has a statue that talks ..................Many catholics report the cross or crucifix talking to them including st Francis of Assisi.
The Beast's name equals 666 .......................the popes title PONT.MAX. equals 666.
The great prostitute sits on seven hills .........Rome / the Vatican sits on seven hills.
The Beast reigns for 1260 days ..................history says papal Rome reigned for 1260 years.
Antichrist means like Christ ....................The papacy say they are like Christ on Earth.
for those with eyes to see.
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Moshelijah
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Beast has a mark on the forehead ........The catholic church and her daughter church's puts a cross on your forehead.
The Beast has a mark on the right hand .....catholics make the sign of the cross on the right hand.
The Beast has a statue to worship ...............catholics worship the cross.
The Beast has a statue that talks ..................Many catholics report the cross or crucifix talking to them including st Francis of Assisi.
The Beast's name equals 666 .......................the popes title PONT.MAX. equals 666.
The great prostitute sits on seven hills .........Rome / the Vatican sits on seven hills.
The Beast reigns for 1260 days ..................history says papal Rome reigned for 1260 years.
Antichrist means like Christ ....................The papacy say they are like Christ on Earth.
for those with eyes to see.
Now What?
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Moshelijah
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Peter replied, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call."
With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, "Save yourselves from this corrupt generation." Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day that day that day that day that day that day that day that day that day that day that day that day that day that day that day
Didnt you know this concernedguy...silly billy
Beast has a mark on the forehead ........The catholic church and her daughter church's puts a cross on your forehead.
The Beast has a mark on the right hand .....catholics make the sign of the cross on the right hand.
The Beast has a statue to worship ...............catholics worship the cross.
The Beast has a statue that talks ..................Many catholics report the cross or crucifix talking to them including st Francis of Assisi.
The Beast's name equals 666 .......................the popes title PONT.MAX. equals 666.
The great prostitute sits on seven hills .........Rome / the Vatican sits on seven hills.
The Beast reigns for 1260 days ..................history says papal Rome reigned for 1260 years.
Antichrist means like Christ ....................The papacy say they are like Christ on Earth.
for those with eyes to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG3w8HXe9JE
To be baptized with water is a commandment.
JESUS SAID "he that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved (Mark 16:16)
PETER SAID "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 2:38)
"The very word baptize, however, signifies immerse; and it is certain that immersion was the practice of the ancient church." (Institutes,IV, xv: 19.)
If you want to risk the no need for baptism theory GOOD LUCK!
Baptism by immersion is not a Christian invention it stems right back to Moses.
They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 1 Corinthians 10:1-3
Jesus knew this. Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. Matthew 3:12-14
For Christ died for sins once for all, ... few people, eight in all, were saved through water, and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also, not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 1 Peter 3:18.
What if I'm right? Why would you risk it! Please be baptized... please.
Its not the catholics alone.
Its all religions that came from her. She is called a mother and a prostitute, she has daughters which include the protestants and any Christian religion which imposes a cross on your forehead as the only initiation.
This title was written on her forehead:
MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
As for any other religion...well they are all born once so they die twice.MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
John 3:3
In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. "
Only the papacy hold the title PONT.MAX which equals 666.
Only the papacy sit on seven hills.
Only the papacy forces an X (or cross) on your forehead.
Only the papacy force an X (or cross) on your right hand.
Only the papacy force an X (or cross) to worship.
Only the papacy have claimed to be Christ on Earth (veiled in flesh).
For the generations to come every male among you who is eight days old must be circumcised, including those born in your household or bought with money from a foreigner—those who are not your offspring. 13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant.
Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenant."
cut off means put to death.. the new covenant is Baptizm circumcision means nothing to Christians.
Mark 16:16 says Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.
condemed means put to death!
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Graybeard
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When THE Antichrist is revealed, you are going to accept him with open arms as you are so blind that you will not see the truth
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Phoenix
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Baptism is not required for salvation.
you are bringing works very subtly
Galatians 3:6
"just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"?"
"suck eggs"? wow seriously someone sure is showing his true colors
you are bringing works very subtly
Galatians 3:6
"just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"?"
"suck eggs"? wow seriously someone sure is showing his true colors
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Maddog
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Cako53
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This is far from the first claim. People have been claiming the antichrist for YEARS! If you truly want to, you can associate it to a lot of things if you search long enough.
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suaso
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"A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: "If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name." Revelations 14: 9-11
Yes, there is definitely the mark of the beast to be concerned about here...but: "Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. 14Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" Revelation 13: 11-18
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness. 1 Corinthians 1:23
1100 years. Besides 1260 days and 1260 years are not the same measures of time.
Yes, there is definitely the mark of the beast to be concerned about here...but: "Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. 14Because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666" Revelation 13: 11-18
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness. 1 Corinthians 1:23
So, is the mark of the beast is 666...not a cross. The cross is a sign of salvation, so I don't understand what all the antagonism towards it is.
Yes, as most human beings are right-handed. Makes sense. Are all right-handed people marked on the right hand by the sign of the beast? Since when was the cross a mark of the devil? The sign of the cross is an affirmation of the triune God: "In the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit." The Trinity isn't evil.
St Francis is said to have heard the voice of God whilst meditating upon the crucifixion of Our Lord while gazing upon a Greek crucifix. Lot's of non-Catholics also believe God has spoken to them. Just because the beast has some weird talking statue, it doesn't mean God can't communicate to Christians when they are in proximity to one.
Pont.Max. is an abbreviation for Pontificus Maximus. The numerological value here is: I + I + V +X + I + V = XXIII, or 23. Not 666. Way off. Unless there is some new way to make numerology work out to rig it to come out to 666 that I am unaware of.
The Seven Hills of Rome are: Aventine, Caelian, Esquiline, Quirinal, Palatine, Capitoline, and Viminal. The Vatican is not one of the 7 Hills that Rome was founded upon.
The pope has been "in charge" of rome for way longer than 1260 years, if by Rome we mean the Vatican. The Papal states weren't in power for but like, oh,
1100 years. Besides 1260 days and 1260 years are not the same measures of time.
AntiChrist means Against Christ. Why and how would the antichrist be Like Christ and also opposed to him? Doesn't make since.
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firefly1628
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whoa! thats some crazy research!
But as a christian we are supposed to be able to know that they are the anti christ, is this a gut feeling? idk BUT i can safely say I do not feel that the Pope is the Anti Christ.
Either way im not catholic soooo it doesnt matter
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But as a christian we are supposed to be able to know that they are the anti christ, is this a gut feeling? idk BUT i can safely say I do not feel that the Pope is the Anti Christ.
Either way im not catholic soooo it doesnt matter
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greatkraw
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whoa! thats some crazy research!
But as a christian we are supposed to be able to know that they are the anti christ, is this a gut feeling? idk BUT i can safely say I do not feel that the Pope is the Anti Christ.
Either way im not catholic soooo it doesnt matter
On the back of the Popes throne is inscribed. 'There is no god but allah and Mohamet is his prophet'
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firefly1628
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greatkraw
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I am just repeating an old Anti Catholic piece of propoganda. I have no Idea if it is rooted in fact.
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motojojo
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Christ has never taught anyone to judge maybe you could have learned it from your true father satin, Have you ever wondered why you hate, judge and fear the Holy Roman Catholic Church? She teaches love,humility and sacrifice and the devil hates that and so do you.
that father satin is rather slippery . But yes there's better candidates for the anti-christ like Iran, China, Al kaida. We should expect the anti-christ to rule and have free reign in countries which are already anti-christ.
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greatkraw
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NewJerusalem
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Many antichrists were revealed..... and THE antichrist, or if you want to call it correctly because the word antichrist is not even found in the book of Revelation, HAS BEEN REVEALED... some almost 2,000 years ago.
If any wants to understand why I say this, seek me out. I frequent Bible Study chat room.
Beloved,
In Christ,
David John (NewJerusalem)
If any wants to understand why I say this, seek me out. I frequent Bible Study chat room.
Beloved,
In Christ,
David John (NewJerusalem)