I wish I could bundle up all the love, the awe inspiring essence of our triune God that I have found when I dug deeply into the OT, looking at the people God uses to explain Himself to us there through the lens of what archeology has discovered about those early Hebrews, and as books explaining Christ. All the directions for us contained in those scriptures, even in every word we sort of discard as law, are magnificent. I would like to shower them on each and every one of you, they are such a blessing.
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Do you understand what you are reading?
"I believe sincerity and obedience are key." This is not saying grace is cast out.
Are you suggesting that we who live in the grace afforded by the Blood of Yeshua should not be sincere? Shall we not obey?
Are you aware that every time the word, law, is used in the New Testament, it really means teachings? It does. The teachings are from the Books of Moses which also contain the laws, statutes and commandments.
Jesus fulfilled the teachings of Moses and the Prophets, He is the Great Teacher, and He has finished explaining all to those who have ears to hear. Hizkiyahu is not doing anything in sin. It seems he is obedient while his detractors would have him be disobedient. Praise Yahweh, God, for family as he is, amen.
"I believe sincerity and obedience are key." This is not saying grace is cast out.
Are you suggesting that we who live in the grace afforded by the Blood of Yeshua should not be sincere? Shall we not obey?
Are you aware that every time the word, law, is used in the New Testament, it really means teachings? It does. The teachings are from the Books of Moses which also contain the laws, statutes and commandments.
Jesus fulfilled the teachings of Moses and the Prophets, He is the Great Teacher, and He has finished explaining all to those who have ears to hear. Hizkiyahu is not doing anything in sin. It seems he is obedient while his detractors would have him be disobedient. Praise Yahweh, God, for family as he is, amen.
Elin answering technique #1
You simply do not believe in the bible.
Elin answering technique #2
If Gen 9:3 is not clear enough, you may take it up with Moses.
Elin answering technique #3
I'm going with Gen 9:3
You simply do not believe in the bible.
Elin answering technique #2
If Gen 9:3 is not clear enough, you may take it up with Moses.
Elin answering technique #3
I'm going with Gen 9:3
And statements without demonstration are statements without merit.
"Sour grapes" is a common refuge for a failed argument.
< #2 is somewhat off >
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No one is saved by obedience, not one. We are saved thru faith, not of ourselves, it is the free gift of God (grace). Also in the NT the word law does not mean teaching. In The OT it means instruction. Then you declare Hizi to not be in sin. Are you claiming he is perfect. I sure hope not, but thankx for answering for him.
Again, you are not hearing. No one has said grace is tossed away. No one has stated anyone can save his soul, You are perverting what people say to you, and that is the same as lying.
If you do not believe in obeying God, own up to it, but do not fault those who do. Jesus Christ is the bridge, and many are crossing It. Do not stand in the way. It is one step at a time crossing over. Look at the bridge, not at the travelers.
We must obey.
one can only obey by grace through faith.
Since faith is what Jesus wrote, the word of God,
(faith comes by hearing the word of God),
believing the bible or word of God enough to follow it,
means you have true belief.
Abraham believed that God would lead him to a new country.
His faith came from God's word saying he would do so.
Abraham obeyed enough to get up and walk into a desert with all his little children.
Abraham wasn't trying to make himself righteous.
But he was righteous by getting up and walking.
If he did nothing but believe God would take him to another country, and stayed home with his father, he would not have been counted as having any faith at all.
grace, faith love, obedience and trust in God all go together
always think of Abraham and you will understand better.
one can only obey by grace through faith.
Since faith is what Jesus wrote, the word of God,
(faith comes by hearing the word of God),
believing the bible or word of God enough to follow it,
means you have true belief.
Abraham believed that God would lead him to a new country.
His faith came from God's word saying he would do so.
Abraham obeyed enough to get up and walk into a desert with all his little children.
Abraham wasn't trying to make himself righteous.
But he was righteous by getting up and walking.
If he did nothing but believe God would take him to another country, and stayed home with his father, he would not have been counted as having any faith at all.
grace, faith love, obedience and trust in God all go together
always think of Abraham and you will understand better.
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God calls the ones he knows will listen.
That is why he always calls simple people to be his prophets to give a hard message,
because he knows they will not have doubts about it.
Smart people are too smart to do what is right.
2 Cor 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house;
Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed;
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country,
See, the faith was recieved by WHAT GOD SAID (what you read in the bible)
and the OBEDIENCE sealed him
disobedience would have left him without real faith.
Obedience to all God says is the true faith
it is the narrow way
Teaching we do not have to do the bible is pure faithlessness and pure presumption and will not put you into good standing with God.
That is why he always calls simple people to be his prophets to give a hard message,
because he knows they will not have doubts about it.
Smart people are too smart to do what is right.
2 Cor 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight
Heb 11:7 By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house;
Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed;
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country,
See, the faith was recieved by WHAT GOD SAID (what you read in the bible)
and the OBEDIENCE sealed him
disobedience would have left him without real faith.
Obedience to all God says is the true faith
it is the narrow way
Teaching we do not have to do the bible is pure faithlessness and pure presumption and will not put you into good standing with God.
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Again with perverse deflecting. If he did not mention grace and faith, why are you? It is certain he has mentioned both in past posts and you are using this now as some kind of cardenal ommission. This is merry-go-round reasoning which is devoid of reason. This is deliberate on your part, and you really should stop this practice. People who practice such arts have a name, and it is not a good one. Now do not come back to me with your nonsense, and ignoring of what is being said. God does not like such activitiy in the Body members who make up the church. Good night from the Iberian Penninsula.....
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Heb 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed;
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country,
See, the faith was recieved by WHAT GOD SAID (what you read in the bible)
and the OBEDIENCE sealed him
disobedience would have left him without real faith.
Obedience to all God says is the true faith
it is the narrow way
Teaching we do not have to do the bible is pure faithlessness and pure presumption and will not put you into good standing with God.
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son.
Heb 11:9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country,
See, the faith was recieved by WHAT GOD SAID (what you read in the bible)
and the OBEDIENCE sealed him
disobedience would have left him without real faith.
Obedience to all God says is the true faith
it is the narrow way
Teaching we do not have to do the bible is pure faithlessness and pure presumption and will not put you into good standing with God.