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God all ready has led me to my church. Here is my church. We are speaking in its pulpits. Can you see what I mean?
Like I said I am not seeking a worthless stone buildings which Jesus declared would become as dens of theives (and he was right as He was right about everything that Simiel has been telling you all for days.)
I am seeking Jesus and seeking to lead others to him and nothing more. This will be all I say for today in regards to this particular topic/thread as I can see your hearts have all hardened and turned to anger because we have spoke Jesus' teachings and I do not wish any of you to turn your backs on Jesus. I forgive any of you for any wrong and hope you can forgive me of any wrong. God bless you all.
Like I said I am not seeking a worthless stone buildings which Jesus declared would become as dens of theives (and he was right as He was right about everything that Simiel has been telling you all for days.)
I am seeking Jesus and seeking to lead others to him and nothing more. This will be all I say for today in regards to this particular topic/thread as I can see your hearts have all hardened and turned to anger because we have spoke Jesus' teachings and I do not wish any of you to turn your backs on Jesus. I forgive any of you for any wrong and hope you can forgive me of any wrong. God bless you all.
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Right -- that's three Persons, one God. So the "a God" thing was just a typo, and you meant "God" instead....
But you've stated you don't believe that Jesus was God at the time that He was on earth. You've said He gave up His deity and His divine powers, making it so that He was only a man on earth. This is the theological issue that we need to discuss now.
But you've stated you don't believe that Jesus was God at the time that He was on earth. You've said He gave up His deity and His divine powers, making it so that He was only a man on earth. This is the theological issue that we need to discuss now.
Acts 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.
Jesus IS a prophet
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Jesus IS God
Jesus IS the Bible word of God.
where are your Bible verses?
Using WAS shows total unbelief In Jesus the WORD OF GOD
Jesus IS a prophet
Mat 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Jesus IS God
Jesus IS the Bible word of God.
where are your Bible verses?
Using WAS shows total unbelief In Jesus the WORD OF GOD
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Being familiar with some forms of demonism doesn't make us immune to being deceived ourselves. None of us are above being deceived. The moment we think we can't be is when we're about to be deceived. It just sets us up for deception.
Yes, kundalini is a concept from the eastern religious contexts, such as in Buddhism and Hinduism. But there is a demonic spirit behind it. This demonic spirit (or a similar one) has wormed its way into the church. If Christians show no discernment, they can and do welcome in demonic spirits, thinking it is the Holy Spirit.
The things that Simiel says often line up with the things that the Christians who accept all these weird manifestations also teach. Some of the stuff Simiel says -- I don't know if he is just throwing random stuff out there, or if he actually believes what he writes. A large majority of it, though, is NAR/hyper-charismatic doctrine.
There are at least four examples of this in this thread already:
1.) Kenosis (the teaching that Jesus gave up His deity and divine powers when He came to earth, and that He did everything as merely a man to model for us how we could walk in the supernatural, too, being empowered by the same Holy Spirit.)
2.) That Christians cannot sin -- that their sinful nature is gone.
3.) That healing is guaranteed in the atonement
4.) That we have to renew our minds to this sinless state that we are in so that we can "live from the throne." Simiel has over and over again used the NAR definition of repentance, which simply means to change your thinking to God's truth, and it has nothing to do with repenting of sin.
None of this is sound doctrine. Sure, you can find verses that support each of the above teachings, but you have to take things out of context and force the Bible to say these things.
Yes, kundalini is a concept from the eastern religious contexts, such as in Buddhism and Hinduism. But there is a demonic spirit behind it. This demonic spirit (or a similar one) has wormed its way into the church. If Christians show no discernment, they can and do welcome in demonic spirits, thinking it is the Holy Spirit.
The things that Simiel says often line up with the things that the Christians who accept all these weird manifestations also teach. Some of the stuff Simiel says -- I don't know if he is just throwing random stuff out there, or if he actually believes what he writes. A large majority of it, though, is NAR/hyper-charismatic doctrine.
There are at least four examples of this in this thread already:
1.) Kenosis (the teaching that Jesus gave up His deity and divine powers when He came to earth, and that He did everything as merely a man to model for us how we could walk in the supernatural, too, being empowered by the same Holy Spirit.)
2.) That Christians cannot sin -- that their sinful nature is gone.
3.) That healing is guaranteed in the atonement
4.) That we have to renew our minds to this sinless state that we are in so that we can "live from the throne." Simiel has over and over again used the NAR definition of repentance, which simply means to change your thinking to God's truth, and it has nothing to do with repenting of sin.
None of this is sound doctrine. Sure, you can find verses that support each of the above teachings, but you have to take things out of context and force the Bible to say these things.
Show me from the Bible
anyone can make stuff up
They called Jesus DEMON POSSESSED going around to decieve the people
they didnt have Bible verses either.
Jesus is a king
He is the ONLY preist
the church now has NO priests and Jesus is the ONLY priest
any church claiming to have priests now is Babylon confusion of doctrines.
very easy study Ill let you check that out
also his kingdom is not of this earth
but his kingdom is INSIDE of you
the holy spirit uniting in humanity to make a new order of being...
a NEW creation
if interested I can put the verses up here.
anyone can make stuff up
They called Jesus DEMON POSSESSED going around to decieve the people
they didnt have Bible verses either.
Jesus is a king
He is the ONLY preist
the church now has NO priests and Jesus is the ONLY priest
any church claiming to have priests now is Babylon confusion of doctrines.
very easy study Ill let you check that out
also his kingdom is not of this earth
but his kingdom is INSIDE of you
the holy spirit uniting in humanity to make a new order of being...
a NEW creation
if interested I can put the verses up here.
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I never said that Simiel himself was into witchcraft.
What I did say was that the doctrine that the NAR/hyper-charismatic movement teaches regarding positive confession and some of the other doctrines and practices that they teach are basically occult/witchcraft.
We did challenge him with Scripture in the other thread, and a little bit in this thread. All we can do is present the truth alongside Scripture. It is up to the readers of this thread to determine which view is correct and lines up with sound doctrine.
Simiel does know Scripture well, but knowing Scripture well does not mean that someone is expounding upon sound doctrine. The Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons know Scripture really well, too. Does that make their claims sound? As someone already brought up, even Satan knows Scripture well. This means that knowledge of Scripture passages doesn't mean that someone is necessarily sound.
If you think we can learn more about Jesus by what someone says rather than what the Bible says, then I think you are setting yourself up for deception....
What I did say was that the doctrine that the NAR/hyper-charismatic movement teaches regarding positive confession and some of the other doctrines and practices that they teach are basically occult/witchcraft.
We did challenge him with Scripture in the other thread, and a little bit in this thread. All we can do is present the truth alongside Scripture. It is up to the readers of this thread to determine which view is correct and lines up with sound doctrine.
Simiel does know Scripture well, but knowing Scripture well does not mean that someone is expounding upon sound doctrine. The Jehovah's Witnesses and the Mormons know Scripture really well, too. Does that make their claims sound? As someone already brought up, even Satan knows Scripture well. This means that knowledge of Scripture passages doesn't mean that someone is necessarily sound.
If you think we can learn more about Jesus by what someone says rather than what the Bible says, then I think you are setting yourself up for deception....
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I grew up in the United Methodist Church, but in high school and college I was influenced by a lot of non-denominational Christian groups and organizations. Then I attended some Vineyard churches for awhile (ones that were not into NAR/hyper-charismatic stuff). I finally had to leave the Vineyard congregation that I was involved in in my hometown because they did start bringing in NAR/hyper-charismatic doctrine. So I left and went back to the United Methodist Church that I grew up in.
I don't really care that much about denomination. What I care more about is whether sound doctrine is being proclaimed at a particular congregation. There is so much variation in every denomination -- there are going to be some churches in each that are sound, and there are going to be others that are way off. Unfortunately, that is the reality of the way things are.
I don't really care that much about denomination. What I care more about is whether sound doctrine is being proclaimed at a particular congregation. There is so much variation in every denomination -- there are going to be some churches in each that are sound, and there are going to be others that are way off. Unfortunately, that is the reality of the way things are.
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Ah I did that for quite a while. Learned the bible on my own with Holy Spirit 
This isn't really heresy, but it is something I have noticed about the NAR/hyper-charismatic crowd. And shows that Simiel has definitely been around them....
Simiel, how do you know that the doctrine you received from reading the Bible on your own was really from the Holy Spirit?
That is part of the reason it is good to be part of a church. If someone comes up with strange ideas, the community of believers can confront the person on those points and point them to correct theology. The community of believers helps to guard against heresy.
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