Illuminati

[SavedByGrace32]

Ok so I'm sure there's been a post like this already but I would like to hear people's opinion's of the illuminati being the anti-christ. For people who don't know the illuminati is an occult group said to largely control the world's affairs especially in the entertainment industry.
Personally I'm a bit on the fence about it, all I know is it does match up a lot with what the bible say's about the end times & just type "celebrities & the illuminati" into google to see how influential it's become. Or "Beyonce superbowl performance" That was some freaky stuff.

 

[djness]

God exists and Satan exists. The bible is pretty clear that the devil is the ruler of this world. Everything else is a diversion tactic.

 

[LuxAeterna]

There is no such thing as the Illuminati. It is a well-known myth. I love reading stuff about it - secret society stuff is always great fun - but I don't worry about it.

Also, there is no specific anti-Christ. The term is used in the letters of John and he was simply trying to say that there are those who are opposed to Christ (hence anti-Christ) and we need to be aware of it.

 

[Rockbysea]

Ok so I'm sure there's been a post like this already but I would like to hear people's opinion's of the illuminati being the anti-christ.

There are many antichrists. After all these years of looking into the Illuminati, the Masons, the bankers, or the Royals etc.... it's very difficult to follow the food chain and they make it difficult. Of late I've been looking into the Jesuits, headed by the superior general (the Black Pope). They may at the top of this antichrist food chain directly under Satan with all these other antichrist elements serving as misdirections.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

It's a historical fact that the organization existed, but many claim it was put down when the Bavarian government (The country where the order was founded) found out about their plans and cracked down on them. Others say the Organization survived the crackdown and still operates under the guise of freemasonry (The founder of the illuminati was initiated as a Freemason two years prior to creating the illuminati). It was created by a man named Adam Weishaupt on May 1st 1776. The first meeting only had about 5 members attending if memory serves correctly, and within a few years the organization had already spread to 6 other countries. The Bavarian government only discovered them because a mail courier delivering information about their plans died en route to wherever he was going. They started raiding members houses soon after they discovered the documents and attempted to shut it down. That's all 100% true, whether they are around today or not is debated all the time.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

There are many antichrists. After all these years of looking into the Illuminati, the Masons, the bankers, or the Royals etc.... it's very difficult to follow the food chain and they make it difficult. Of late I've been looking into the Jesuits, headed by the superior general (the Black Pope). They may at the top of this antichrist food chain directly under Satan with all these other antichrist elements serving as misdirections.

I've personally tried for many years to follow the food chain myself. There's no other group more likely to be at the helm than the Jesuits based on my research as well. Adam Weishaupt was educated by the Jesuits and was familiar with them long before he became a Mason or created the Illuminati. Himmler (Hitler's right hand man) structured the Nazi SS based on the Jesuit model and if you really want to do some digging.....the Knights of Malta (Another organization tied to the Catholic Church) has a very suspicious amount of members in high level positions both historically and presently in the intelligence agencies of different countries, including the U.S, Britain, and Israel.

If anyone wants to research the Knights of Malta though it's important to keep in mind there are two different organizations that have that name. One is the Masonic knights of malta, in the York right of FreeMasonry.....and the other is "The Sovereign Military Order of Malta" which is the one I'm referring to.

 

[Brighthouse]

hi saved,just to let you know, they do not call themselves the Illuminati anymore,now called the g20 summit. When you hear the President goes to one of these,he is being given some orders! hehe

 

[Rockbysea]

I've personally tried for many years to follow the food chain myself. There's no other group more likely to be at the helm than the Jesuits based on my research as well. Adam Weishaupt was educated by the Jesuits and was familiar with them long before he became a Mason or created the Illuminati. Himmler (Hitler's right hand man) structured the Nazi SS based on the Jesuit model and if you really want to do some digging.....the Knights of Malta (Another organization tied to the Catholic Church) has a very suspicious amount of members in high level positions both historically and presently in the intelligence agencies of different countries, including the U.S, Britain, and Israel.

If anyone wants to research the Knights of Malta though it's important to keep in mind there are two different organizations that have that name. One is the Masonic knights of malta, in the York right of FreeMasonry.....and the other is "The Sovereign Military Order of Malta" which is the one I'm referring to.

And don’t forget (which I’m sure you know more that I do) many Jesuit trained public servants out of Georgetown University and other similar institutions that run the US government.

Thanks for the info…. I’m going to look into it. You’ve probably read this stuff already but so far I’ve read “Rulers of Evil” by F. Tupper Saussy. I’m currently reading “The Secret History of the Jesuits.” by Edmond Paris showing how the Jesuits raised up Mussolini and Hitler (who was a devoted Catholic). The other books I plan to read are “The Vatican’s Holocaust” by Avro Manhattan and “Rome’s Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln” by Thomas M. Harris.

All of these books can be found online for free in PDF format. If you have any other interesting books you can recommend please do. So far after what I’ve been reading I’m convinced that the inquisition is still going strong and that all these other anti-Christ components are all subject to the Vatican (the Holy roman Empire) which rides the beast (moat all governments of the world) and that many are already wearing the mark and do not know it.

Interesting note, which you probably know: The Rothschilds are guardians of the Vatican treasury and are Papal Knights.

 

[Donkeyfish07]

And don’t forget (which I’m sure you know more that I do) many Jesuit trained public servants out of Georgetown University and other similar institutions that run the US government.

Thanks for the info…. I’m going to look into it. You’ve probably read this stuff already but so far I’ve read “Rulers of Evil” by F. Tupper Saussy. I’m currently reading “The Secret History of the Jesuits.” by Edmond Paris showing how the Jesuits raised up Mussolini and Hitler (who was a devoted Catholic). The other books I plan to read are “The Vatican’s Holocaust” by Avro Manhattan and “Rome’s Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln” by Thomas M. Harris.

All of these books can be found online for free in PDF format. If you have any other interesting books you can recommend please do. So far after what I’ve been reading I’m convinced that the inquisition is still going strong and that all these other anti-Christ components are all subject to the Vatican (the Holy roman Empire) which rides the beast (moat all governments of the world) and that many are already wearing the mark and do not know it.

Interesting note, which you probably know: The Rothschilds are guardians of the Vatican treasury and are Papal Knights.

I only recently discovered GeorgeTown University's role regarding Jesuits. Did you know Bill Clinton went there? He gave public praise in one of his speeches around his presidential days to Carrol Quigley, who was a professor there. He was also the author of the book tragedy and hope, I have a thread about it here. It's not the best book in the world regarding conspiratorial things but it's 3,000 pages long.....quite a bit of info there. I think reading at least a review of that book is a good introductory point for people who aren't familiar with this kind of research, because the man has a lot of credentials and presidential endorsement. That type of thing seems to be important to people who believe anyone thinking a conspiracy could possibly exist is wearing a tinfoil hat, when it comes to getting them to at least take a look at the information.

I may be knowledgeable in this area but you probably know tons of things I don't as well.....I'm sure you know how tedious it can be finding reliable information. I've been sorting through this stuff for about 10 years off and on. I haven't read the secret history of the Jesuits yet but it's on my list. I have came across multiple quotes from the book though so I've got a pretty good idea of the most important things it covers.

I'm not convinced that people are able to take the mark ignorantly.....The way I understand it after talking to a Church elder about it one time is that it will definitely be a conscious choice when it happens, people will be informed enough to know what they are doing. Am I correct in guessing that you think the mark is a hexagram though?


Also, I had heard about the Rothschild link to the Vatican but I never looked into it very deeply.....so many different tangents you could spend a lifetime studying. I had no idea they were Papal Knights.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

Lol The Illuminati. This is a very popular conspiracy theory for people my age.

Well as someone pointed out the Illuminati did at least exist once as a formal secret society. And it is indeed true they were discovered and cracked down upon. And it seems they also at one point merged into Freemasonry as the masons even have an Order of the Illuminati.

Now here's the real question though;

Whoever said the Illuminati was so powerful?

If we accept their existence, it would seem to me like them and all the other "secret" societies are fighting eachother and they aren't very successful at taking over the world, much less governing what small areas they might have lol.

Here's a fun anti-illuminati song made by another more modern secret society called Anonymous (which of course the irony in two secret societies ragging on eachother for being secret societies is pretty funny me.)

ANONYMOUS - Illuminati Song - YouTube
(EDIT: just noticed there is some what people call swear words in the song so click at your discretion and I took the video down.)



Lol, I personally think we have more to fear from the Illiterati and the fact Geo-Politics moreso resembles Jerry Springer (with bombs) than some zeitgeist evil genius one world government.

 

[Rockbysea]

I only recently discovered GeorgeTown University's role regarding Jesuits. Did you know Bill Clinton went there? He gave public praise in one of his speeches around his presidential days to Carrol Quigley, who was a professor there. He was also the author of the book tragedy and hope, I have a thread about it here. It's not the best book in the world regarding conspiratorial things but it's 3,000 pages long.....quite a bit of info there. I think reading at least a review of that book is a good introductory point for people who aren't familiar with this kind of research, because the man has a lot of credentials and presidential endorsement. That type of thing seems to be important to people who believe anyone thinking a conspiracy could possibly exist is wearing a tinfoil hat, when it comes to getting them to at least take a look at the information.

I may be knowledgeable in this area but you probably know tons of things I don't as well.....I'm sure you know how tedious it can be finding reliable information. I've been sorting through this stuff for about 10 years off and on. I haven't read the secret history of the Jesuits yet but it's on my list. I have came across multiple quotes from the book though so I've got a pretty good idea of the most important things it covers.

I'm not convinced that people are able to take the mark ignorantly.....The way I understand it after talking to a Church elder about it one time is that it will definitely be a conscious choice when it happens, people will be informed enough to know what they are doing. Am I correct in guessing that you think the mark is a hexagram though?


Also, I had heard about the Rothschild link to the Vatican but I never looked into it very deeply.....so many different tangents you could spend a lifetime studying. I had no idea they were Papal Knights.

Ya I just recently found that out about Clinton. Also the last I checked the majority on the US Supreme Court are Catholics. You know anyone who believes politicians run things are the ones wearing “tin foil hats.” Politicians are actors and put in place for the purpose of giving the slaves the illusion of freedom and recourse when they have neither.

I’m of the opinion (I may be wrong) the mark is not something visible but it’s a representation of where one’s loyalties lie. I believe it is possible to worship the beast and its image without wearing a visible mark or chip. Like when God seals His servants does He seal them with a visible seal (mark)? And if not could the beast (Satan’s government) also seal his servants without a visible mark but by just deceiving people into worshiping his image?

In Rev. 20: 4-5 all those in the first resurrection did not wear the mark of the beast. But does this first resurrection only include the last generation who were beheaded for their witness to Jesus just before His return and not all those who were beheaded for their witness to Jesus going back to the first apostles? Also does it not also include those who died for their witness to Jesus by other means besides being beheaded such as being eaten by beast, crucified, burned at the stake etc…? And if the first resurrection includes those who died for their witness to Jesus (beheaded or by some other means) going back to the first apostles this would indicate that the beast and his mark also existed from the time of the first apostles: Just something to consider.

But like you I’ve been reviewing conspiracies for about 8 years and nothing has been more convincing to me than the role of the Jesuits. And of all the conspiracy players they seem to be the least known about and discussed.

 

[ThomistColin]

Apparently now the Society of Jesus is serving Satan? Come on, get real.

As for the Illuminati, it was destroyed in the 1700s, at the very least in its original form. The Bavarian government and the Vatican sought out and destroyed the organization. One major problem though with the Free Masons are Illuminati belief...The Illuminati were atheists, Free Masons are strictly monotheists. True the founder of the Illuminati was a Free Mason, who was pushed out of the organization for being an atheist and (I love this part) TOO anti-Catholic [By the way, Free Masonry is anti-Catholic and Catholicism is fairly anti Free Mason].

 

[Donkeyfish07]

Ya I just recently found that out about Clinton. Also the last I checked the majority on the US Supreme Court are Catholics. You know anyone who believes politicians run things are the ones wearing “tin foil hats.” Politicians are actors and put in place for the purpose of giving the slaves the illusion of freedom and recourse when they have neither.

I don't think someone being a Catholic is enough reason to suspect them of anything, most Catholics I've met are really good people. It's only a couple of groups within them that are worthy of suspicion IMO. I probably would never have even believed that much if there wasn't an overwhelming amount of evidence pointing to them spanning centuries, lol. It really does sound whacked out.

As far as the mark goes, there's a thousand different theories on it. I can't claim to know more than anyone else regarding it but I would still think it has to be a literal thing you choose to take. It will be needed to buy or sell, that means every merchant is going to need a way to discern whether someone has it or not. I tend to believe it will quite literally be a mark.

 

[Rockbysea]

As far as the mark goes, there's a thousand different theories on it. I can't claim to know more than anyone else regarding it but I would still think it has to be a literal thing you choose to take. It will be needed to buy or sell, that means every merchant is going to need a way to discern whether someone has it or not. I tend to believe it will quite literally be a mark.

We all already have a sort of preliminary mark. The state tells us that we need a social security number (a type of identification mark) to work (sell our labor). If we cannot sell our labor we cannot get money to buy. Being prohibited to sell and buy is the same as being prohibited to buy and sell. So the SS number is a type of mark that one needs from the state (beast) to get permission to sell and buy. This SSN (type of mark) is issued by the state and turns people into human livestock that become the property of the state (beast). To me there seems to be little difference between wearing the mark and signing a contract containing the mark which binds one to use it.

But that’s just my 2 cents.

 

[breno785au]

I used to be into this whole secret society thing, I guess I'm still interested in it but I lost a lot of interest when I realised there's a lot of information out there about 'secret' societies lol....It's possible its all a diversion from a real order?

 

[SpartanD39]

Occams Razor....

For me at least there isn't anything to suggest that there's a grand secret conspiracy controlling world events and politics, and maybe that's just because they're so good at hiding themselves. Or it could just be that there isn't one and we're all just seeing patterns in chaos as the human brain is apt to do.

 

[DragonSlayer]

Well, when you seriously get into indubitable facts of inside jobs like Pearl Harbor, JFK assassination, and 9 11,
the impossible become possible : illuminati do exist !

But the Lord will always have the last word !

 

[overcomer2]

Ok so I'm sure there's been a post like this already but I would like to hear people's opinion's of the illuminati being the anti-christ. For people who don't know the illuminati is an occult group said to largely control the world's affairs especially in the entertainment industry.
Personally I'm a bit on the fence about it, all I know is it does match up a lot with what the bible say's about the end times & just type "celebrities & the illuminati" into google to see how influential it's become. Or "Beyonce superbowl performance" That was some freaky stuff.

Well, I do believe that illuminati is real. I know of people or I should say associated with people who were a part of Illuminati and have found there way out. I believe the man who started Teen Challenge grew up with parents who were very involved in that, David Myers I think. He is dead now. He had a marvelous testimony that I remember. This is a very real organization for those who are not so enlightened. Once you begin to uncover or expose this the more you realize how set up our govt is.

 

[Tr]

God exists and Satan exists. The bible is pretty clear that the devil is the ruler of this world. Everything else is a diversion tactic.

even the bible?

 

[Seme]

Satan worshippers