The Truth About The Sabbath

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Acts 20:7 KJV
(7) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

This text should read 'one of the sabbaths' not first day of the week.

G3391
μία
mia
Thayer Definition:
1) only one, someone
Part of Speech: adjective
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: irregular feminine of G1520


This is the meaning of the the word first it means one not first.


Matthew 5:24 KJV
(24) Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

G4412
πρῶτον
prōton
Thayer Definition:
1) first in time or place
1a) in any succession of things or persons
2) first in rank
2a) influence, honour
2b) chief
2c) principal
3) first, at the first
Part of Speech: adverb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: neuter of G4413 as adverb (with or without G3588)
Citing in TDNT: 6:868, 965

Notice the different word this word means first not the other which means one.


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σάββατον
sabbaton
Thayer Definition:
1) the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
1a) the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b) a single sabbath, sabbath day
2) seven days, a week
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Hebrew origin H7676


Notice the word for week. So the translation should read 'one of the sabbaths' not first day of the week.
Laodicea, I agree, but a little more research will tell you that "one" means first, or chief of Sabbaths. This means that the number one Sabbath, the chief of Sabbaths (the only one remaining) was also the day on which Jesus rose from the dead. This day, when days of the week were given names---was Sunday. This is why, for over eighteen hundred years, the fourth commandment Sabbath has been observed on---Sunday.
 
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WOW! the lengths.......up is down...
 
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For those of you who do not feel led to keep Sabbath here you go. You are not being Judged by the way....
1.Thou shall have no other gods before me
2. Thou shall not make any graven images.
3. Thou shall not take the name of the Lord Thy God in vain.
4.Honor thy Father and Mother
5. Thou shall not kill
6. Thou shall not commit adultery
7. Thou shall not steal
8. Thou shall not bear false witness
9. Thou shall not covet
The Nine Commandments.....



For the rest of you, keep the 10 commandments and be at peace you have one who is a Judge.
 
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We can meet on the first day of the week, but we can't change God. God blessed the Sabbath for a special day just for us. Not the first, second, third, etc day of the week but the seventh, the Sabbath, we call it Saturday. You aren't required to go to church on that day, but you are required to rest that day. We are asked to rest in the Lord, that is something completely different. It is to have complete faith in the Lord.

The rest scripture tells us of for the Sabbath is to physically not perform our work that day, that kind of rest for just one day a week. It means that for a day you don't try to work your way to anything, you let God do the work for you. Scripture says so, and although lots of people say scripture is not scripture any more because of old and new covenant, and all things new in Christ, and lots of things said. But it really doesn't change what scripture says about the Sabbath. We are to believe it.
 
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................ Scripture says so, and although lots of people say scripture is not scripture any more because of old and new covenant, and all things new in Christ, and lots of things said. But it really doesn't change what scripture says about the Sabbath. We are to believe it.
Let me ask you point blank: Why don't you accept that Christ is the Son God, is God's word made flesh, and dwelt among us to bring salvation to us on a personal level. Why do you reject new testament directives and cling to old testament laws that were meant specifically as a pact between God and Israel?
One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. [SUP] [/SUP]He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
[SUP] [/SUP]For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
[SUP] [/SUP]For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
[SUP] [/SUP]For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
[SUP] [/SUP]But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
I don't get it - why do you reject what Christ brought, at His Fathers desire?
 
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We can meet on the first day of the week, but we can't change God. God blessed the Sabbath for a special day just for us. Not the first, second, third, etc day of the week but the seventh, the Sabbath, we call it Saturday. You aren't required to go to church on that day, but you are required to rest that day. We are asked to rest in the Lord, that is something completely different. It is to have complete faith in the Lord.

The rest scripture tells us of for the Sabbath is to physically not perform our work that day, that kind of rest for just one day a week. It means that for a day you don't try to work your way to anything, you let God do the work for you. Scripture says so, and although lots of people say scripture is not scripture any more because of old and new covenant, and all things new in Christ, and lots of things said. But it really doesn't change what scripture says about the Sabbath. We are to believe it.
You're absolutely right, everyone on the whole earth should just stop working friday night till saturday night and let the whole world fall into complete kaos. Excellent thinking...But I'm glad God thinks with wisdom.
So now we have to decide what God considers a good work that we can do on Sabbath and what isn't. I wonder who should decide that for us.
 

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This confusion is exactly what the bible said it was, the church world is lukewarm they leaning on their own understandings and continuously reject the holy spirit, everyone has departed from the faith and created creeds and doctrine, eventually it will be too late.. and you will be like the foolish versions and seek the holy spirit, but it will be too late, if any of you had the spirit of God living within you not even a word of law would come from your mouth because you would understand what grace does and what salvation does to a person, many of the adventist i speak too don't even know what the holy spirit purpose is for or what he does, wanna know the worst part? without it your going to hell... Jesus said unless a man be born of water and spirit he cannot see the kingdom he also said [h=3]John 14:6[/h]King James Version (KJV)

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.



if you would atleast be willing to not use your human intellect.. and just surrender your mind and body to God the truth will be revealed to you by spiritually revelation, lest you fall to unbelief...


[h=3]Matthew 15:14[/h]King James Version (KJV)

14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

don't let this be you

 

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Acts 20:7 KJV
(7) And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

This text should read 'one of the sabbaths' not first day of the week.

G3391
μία
mia
Thayer Definition:
1) only one, someone
Part of Speech: adjective
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: irregular feminine of G1520


This is the meaning of the the word first it means one not first.


Matthew 5:24 KJV
(24) Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

G4412
πρῶτον
prōton
Thayer Definition:
1) first in time or place
1a) in any succession of things or persons
2) first in rank
2a) influence, honour
2b) chief
2c) principal
3) first, at the first
Part of Speech: adverb
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: neuter of G4413 as adverb (with or without G3588)
Citing in TDNT: 6:868, 965

Notice the different word this word means first not the other which means one.


G4521
σάββατον
sabbaton
Thayer Definition:
1) the seventh day of each week which was a sacred festival on which the Israelites were required to abstain from all work
1a) the institution of the sabbath, the law for keeping holy every seventh day of the week
1b) a single sabbath, sabbath day
2) seven days, a week
Part of Speech: noun neuter
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: of Hebrew origin H7676


Notice the word for week. So the translation should read 'one of the sabbaths' not first day of the week.
You are correct. If we read Acts 20:7 in context with the verse before it, we read...

Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

It is imperative that we understand God's Feasts. That's right, God said they are His Feast. We find the complete list in Leviticus 23.

The day after Passover (Nisan 14th) is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Nisan 15th/A High Sabbath).

The Feast of Unleavened Bread is to be observed 7 days. On Nisan 21, is the last day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and is also a High Sabbath.


Lev 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 In the fourteenth day of the first month at even is the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 And on the fifteenth day of the same month is the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Next, in the INSTRUCTIONS (TORAH), we see that the firstfruit of the harvest is to be brought for a WAVE OFFERING. This is done on the morrow after the Sabbath. So if Nisan 14th Passover happened on a Wednesday, Nisan 15th begins the Feast of Unleavened Bread/A High Sabbath, happens on Thursday. The wave offering is brought to the priest on Nisan 16th, which in this example would be Friday, the day after the Sabbath (High Sabbath).

Lev 23:9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev 23:12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
Lev 23:14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
So the WAVE OFFERING, in this example is done on Friday (the morrow after the Sabbath which is a High Sabbath.)

Then on the first weekly Sabbath after the Wave Offering, begin counting 7 Sabbaths (weekly sabbaths.) This equals 49 days of counting. Then after the 7th Sabbath (49th day) the next day is DAY 50. Day 50 is Feast of Shavuot (we Christians call it Pentecost Sunday).

Lev 23:16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:17 Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; they are the firstfruits unto the LORD.
Lev 23:18 And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be for a burnt offering unto the LORD, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, even an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the LORD.
Lev 23:19 Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings.
Lev 23:20 And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits for a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to the LORD for the priest.
Lev 23:21 And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, that it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work therein: it shall be a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.
Lev 23:22 And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I am the LORD your God.
Ok. History lesson complete. Now why is this significant. We read in Acts 20:6 "Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

The next verse, Acts 20:7 reads in KJV "Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Your break down of the Greek is absolutely correct. The word first could also be "one of". There is no word "day" because is was added by the translators. (Good reason not to go against what God said about not adding or diminishing from His Word (Deuteronomy 4:2) Next the word "week" is just like you said, Sabbaton in the Greek.

So what we have here in Acts 20:7 is they are counting after the Feast of Unleavened Bread the 7 weekly Sabbaths. It is one of the 7 Sabbaths. Which one of the 7?

Let's read Acts 20:6 again. Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

After the days of unleavened bread = Last day of the feast of Unleavened Bread is always on Nisan 21st. They set sail after Nisan 21st and it took them five days to travel to Troas. And after arriving at their destination, they stayed 7 days.

Then Acts 20:7 "Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

So they are definitely meeting on one of the 7 Sabbaths. Paul was leaving the next day and so he continued speaking until midnight. The Sabbath ended at sunset that day, but Paul continued preaching.

Also, note that in Acts 20:7 that the disciples came together to break bread. The question is was the bread unleavened or leavened? It is "AFTER" the Feast of Unleavened Bread, so the Bread is Leavened. Strong's Word #G740.

G740
ἄρτος
artos
ar'-tos
From G142; bread (as raised) or a loaf: - (shew-) bread, loaf.

So, again, you are absolutely correct in saying "Notice the word for week. So the translation should read 'one of the sabbaths' not first day of the week.

Great post!
 

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does anyone even stop, think and examine themselves what your doing is right? or why someone else have a different point of view than yours, or does your conscience doesn't convict you? the word of God is revealed by spiritual revelation through the holy spirit but come on can't you see their is something wrong or are you just blind in your own conceit?
 

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You're absolutely right, everyone on the whole earth should just stop working friday night till saturday night and let the whole world fall into complete kaos. Excellent thinking...But I'm glad God thinks with wisdom.
So now we have to decide what God considers a good work that we can do on Sabbath and what isn't. I wonder who should decide that for us.
If the whole world kept Sabbath that would probably mean they were keeping the other nine commandments also therefore God would keep things running because He would have put an end to sin and He would be living with us. A New Heaven and A New Earth.
 

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do you have any actual evidence?
I actually have been taking a Saturday Sabbath for the past two weeks due to a personal conviction, but that doesn't change the Greek.
You are twisting the Word of God with your foolishness.
Does this mean you have started keeping Saturday Sabbath? Welcome to God's day of rest.
 

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[h=3]Colossians 2:16[/h]King James Version (KJV)

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:



yet still your fighting for which day is right... when the bible says it doesn't matter what day you keep it does not matter




[h=3]Romans 14:5[/h]King James Version (KJV)

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.






really? come on don't think it can get any clearer than this, lets stop with this foolishness it's not about what day you keep or what day you don't keep it does not matter at all bible said so, but if you still can't accept this written word of God.. maybe you need to free yourself from mental slavery, belief is a powerful thing, to believe in the wrong thing over many years gonna be tough to come out of that but you have to do it just read the word you see i see it everyone sees what it says, so lets stop this nonsense about which day is right and which isn't
 
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Laodicea, I agree, but a little more research will tell you that "one" means first, or chief of Sabbaths. This means that the number one Sabbath, the chief of Sabbaths (the only one remaining) was also the day on which Jesus rose from the dead. This day, when days of the week were given names---was Sunday. This is why, for over eighteen hundred years, the fourth commandment Sabbath has been observed on---Sunday.
By the way what religious denomination do you belong, we WELS don't believe this. We believe the 7th day is Sabbath and no where in scripture did Jesus ever change this. Sunday is when Jesus resurrected from the grave but it sure AIN'T the Sabbath. Jesus came to fulfill the Law, not change it.
 
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Let me ask you point blank: Why don't you accept that Christ is the Son God, is God's word made flesh, and dwelt among us to bring salvation to us on a personal level. Why do you reject new testament directives and cling to old testament laws that were meant specifically as a pact between God and Israel?

I don't get it - why do you reject what Christ brought, at His Fathers desire?
To believe in Christ you must deny what the Father said? Where did Christ say to ignore what His Father said about blessing the Sabbath? Or, in fact, where is it in scripture that if we know Christ we must not learn from the Old Testament? Why did scripture say that we are adopted into Israel? Why are you persecuting Christ?
 
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You're absolutely right, everyone on the whole earth should just stop working friday night till saturday night and let the whole world fall into complete kaos. Excellent thinking...But I'm glad God thinks with wisdom.
So now we have to decide what God considers a good work that we can do on Sabbath and what isn't. I wonder who should decide that for us.
Is it truly your belief that if we obeyed God it would cause havoc in the world? I trust God a lot more than that. I think it is disobedience and lack of discipline that causes havoc.
 
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Let me ask you point blank: Why don't you accept that Christ is the Son God, is God's word made flesh, and dwelt among us to bring salvation to us on a personal level. Why do you reject new testament directives and cling to old testament laws that were meant specifically as a pact between God and Israel?

I don't get it - why do you reject what Christ brought, at His Fathers desire?
I was just reading Isaiah 58:2 They seek Me day after day and delight to know My ways.

If we followed Phil instead of the scripture we would not be allowed to know of any way of the Lord unless it was in the New Testament, and the bulk of the bible is in the Old Testament. Think what we would be missing about God's ways!




 
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Laodicea, I agree, but a little more research will tell you that "one" means first, or chief of Sabbaths. This means that the number one Sabbath, the chief of Sabbaths (the only one remaining) was also the day on which Jesus rose from the dead. This day, when days of the week were given names---was Sunday. This is why, for over eighteen hundred years, the fourth commandment Sabbath has been observed on---Sunday.
You need to give evidence and proof which you have given none.
 
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You are correct. If we read Acts 20:7 in context with the verse before it, we read...

Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

It is imperative that we understand God's Feasts. That's right, God said they are His Feast. We find the complete list in Leviticus 23.

The day after Passover (Nisan 14th) is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Nisan 15th/A High Sabbath).

The Feast of Unleavened Bread is to be observed 7 days. On Nisan 21, is the last day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and is also a High Sabbath.




Next, in the INSTRUCTIONS (TORAH), we see that the firstfruit of the harvest is to be brought for a WAVE OFFERING. This is done on the morrow after the Sabbath. So if Nisan 14th Passover happened on a Wednesday, Nisan 15th begins the Feast of Unleavened Bread/A High Sabbath, happens on Thursday. The wave offering is brought to the priest on Nisan 16th, which in this example would be Friday, the day after the Sabbath (High Sabbath).



So the WAVE OFFERING, in this example is done on Friday (the morrow after the Sabbath which is a High Sabbath.)

Then on the first weekly Sabbath after the Wave Offering, begin counting 7 Sabbaths (weekly sabbaths.) This equals 49 days of counting. Then after the 7th Sabbath (49th day) the next day is DAY 50. Day 50 is Feast of Shavuot (we Christians call it Pentecost Sunday).



Ok. History lesson complete. Now why is this significant. We read in Acts 20:6 "Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

The next verse, Acts 20:7 reads in KJV "Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Your break down of the Greek is absolutely correct. The word first could also be "one of". There is no word "day" because is was added by the translators. (Good reason not to go against what God said about not adding or diminishing from His Word (Deuteronomy 4:2) Next the word "week" is just like you said, Sabbaton in the Greek.

So what we have here in Acts 20:7 is they are counting after the Feast of Unleavened Bread the 7 weekly Sabbaths. It is one of the 7 Sabbaths. Which one of the 7?

Let's read Acts 20:6 again. Act 20:6 And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.

After the days of unleavened bread = Last day of the feast of Unleavened Bread is always on Nisan 21st. They set sail after Nisan 21st and it took them five days to travel to Troas. And after arriving at their destination, they stayed 7 days.

Then Acts 20:7 "Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

So they are definitely meeting on one of the 7 Sabbaths. Paul was leaving the next day and so he continued speaking until midnight. The Sabbath ended at sunset that day, but Paul continued preaching.

Also, note that in Acts 20:7 that the disciples came together to break bread. The question is was the bread unleavened or leavened? It is "AFTER" the Feast of Unleavened Bread, so the Bread is Leavened. Strong's Word #G740.

G740
ἄρτος
artos
ar'-tos
From G142; bread (as raised) or a loaf: - (shew-) bread, loaf.

So, again, you are absolutely correct in saying "Notice the word for week. So the translation should read 'one of the sabbaths' not first day of the week.

Great post!
Good to see someone is reading the context. They were to count seven sabbaths from the first feast so one of the sabbaths means they were counting sabbaths to the day of Pentecost as shown in the context. Also Pentecost is the same day the 10 commandments were given.
 
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Colossians 2:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:



yet still your fighting for which day is right... when the bible says it doesn't matter what day you keep it does not matter




Romans 14:5

King James Version (KJV)

5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.






really? come on don't think it can get any clearer than this, lets stop with this foolishness it's not about what day you keep or what day you don't keep it does not matter at all bible said so, but if you still can't accept this written word of God.. maybe you need to free yourself from mental slavery, belief is a powerful thing, to believe in the wrong thing over many years gonna be tough to come out of that but you have to do it just read the word you see i see it everyone sees what it says, so lets stop this nonsense about which day is right and which isn't
Do not judge does not mean do not keep. Romans 14 is talking about fasting and food. The sabbath is not even mentioned in Romans 14.