Being raped better than letting women have gun to shoot rapist with?:India and rape

[1still_waters]

Oh good gravy. I spoke my peace like 2000 posts ago in this thread.
It's ok to say what ya gotta say, and move along.

No need to do the raise the emotions tango dance.

Just a suggestion if your posts are declining into you feeling like someone elses entertainment, and not someone elses honest other end of a discussion.

 

[ServantStrike]

Oh good gravy. I spoke my peace like 2000 posts ago in this thread.
It's ok to say what ya gotta say, and move along.

No need to do the raise the emotions tango dance.

Just a suggestion if your posts are declining into you feeling like someone elses entertainment, and not someone elses honest other end of a discussion.

When it comes to making a case for your rights, it's best to keep going, even if it ceases to be fun (since it rarely is).

What you mentioned is a right that is under attack in a lot of countries, hence why people were so adamant about it.

 

[Praus]

Praus, I don't think you should ask him where he got his degree. They could sue you.

Well, no one is trying to get personal information about me, only about you.

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[NodMyHeadLikeYeah]

When it comes to making a case for your rights, it's best to keep going, even if it ceases to be fun (since it rarely is).

What you mentioned is a right that is under attack in a lot of countries, hence why people were so adamant about it.

I understand what your saying, but when people cease to listen, act calmly and think rationally wouldn't it be best to let things be? All that's happening is arguing, What is getting accomplished here? There is just more and more arguing and more and more finger pointing.

Just a thought.

 

[Rachel20]

So interesting question to all these people.


Are you completely alright with Sikh people carrying kirpans?

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[Rachel20]

Well, no one is trying to get personal information about me, only about you.

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Well death threats, cyberbullying and cyber stalking.


I still say I trust God.


John 15:18-19

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you."

 

[Praus]

Well death threats, cyberbullying and cyber stalking.

I still say I trust God.


John 15:18-19

"If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you."

Well, to get to that level of trust it's first necessary to submit to Jesus Christ (remember our discussions about the term δοῦλος) and allow the Spirit to discern peoples thoughts and intents for you.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

 

[Rachel20]

Well, to get to that level of trust it's first necessary to submit to Jesus Christ (remember our discussions about the term δοῦλος) and allow the Spirit to discern peoples thoughts and intents for you.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

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Amen.
Yes. Thank you

 

[Praus]

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[Praus]

I did ask if you have already taken such a course. Which you have. Sorry it was not very apparent.

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[kayem77]

This thread is......I don't know what's going on. 7 pages ago I said something....I don't remember what it was. Maybe it had something to do with unicorns carrying guns.

 

[Praus]

This is very pro woman.

ONLY women should be allowed to carry guns.

Are you ready for our giraffe hunt?

 

[my_adonai_]

2Co 10:3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: 2Co 10:4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds 2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; 2Co 10:6 And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.

 

[Rachel20]

Rachel, he could have gone about discussing his position better, and in some states what he said would have been considered a threat, but you have to let it go.


There are some very honest people here talking about their personal experiences and why they decide to carry a defensive sidearm. Not all of them have assumed an argumentative tone with you.


Here's another reason I'm not sure you've considered. Some people carry one to defend others as well as themselves. You can trust in God all you would like, but it might be the person next to you who God has put it on their heart to be ever vigilant that delivers you in your time of need.


Just a thought.

Hi ServantStrike. I am sorry I took a while to respond to this. I have considered that position many times.

Christians are expected to not allow injustice and to help the needy. I've said this before many times.

However I still don't see how guns must be the solution. There are other means of self defence or protection.
I would go a step further and say total disarmament rather.

This was my personal belief, more so because the topic was about INDIA, my country. Our country was born out of a non violent movement and the Father of our Nation Mahatma Gandhi, who was deeply influenced by Jesus, especially the verse "To Turn the other cheek" believed that arms was not the solution and he was right. I don't want my country to take that route of endorsing violence in any form.

It is my personal conviction.

However I had to spend a lot of time to go through all the attacks by the outraged Americans, ranging from pouring scorn over Qatar and India, to insinuate quoting Scripture as victim blaming, to calling trusting in God as twisted thinking, to go so far as to write a story about my death. (reasons I didn't respond soon enough)

I used to be a pro-guns anarchist Defense Distributed , liberation person until I found Jesus. My views changed. I don't really care anymore. I just want to follow Jesus and how he lived. Did he wield a sword? No.

Each one of us has been called to serve God with our own gifts. Each one of us has differing levels of faith. It is after all a matter of our conscience before God.

However these are questions I can ask you.

Does having a gun provide 100% protection?
Is the assurance of a gun beside you an assurance of your life too? Will a gun always prove worthy? Even if you were witnessing a crime or defending someone else, are the odds always going to be in favour of the party with a gun?

What if both parties have guns? No life at hand is certainity.

People might say, I am being very "illogical" saying I trust only God for my protection. There are some here who go around claiming academic degrees on logic and statistics, but since when did a virgin giving birth be logical?

Also, the question could be put, in a life or death situation, and someone attacked me, wouldn't I defend myself? Yes of course, it's a first reflex.

I just don't want to be holding a gun in my hand and being responsible for the death of another being. Or disabling or injuring them.

So what's going to protect me if I carry no arms.

God. Yes I put my trust in his protection. Even if no other person is beside me. No other vigilante.

It might seem impossible. But what is impossibe for man, is possible for God.

 

[Rachel20]

Are you ready for our giraffe hunt?
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EEEK.

No. You'd need to check my academic credentials!

 

[Rachel20]

When it comes to making a case for your rights, it's best to keep going, even if it ceases to be fun (since it rarely is).

What you mentioned is a right that is under attack in a lot of countries, hence why people were so adamant about it.

I gave you my response.

It is heavily influenced by the fact I am a Christian.

 

[Praus]

EEEK.

No. You'd need to check my academic credentials!

Isn't it interesting that only a few people are actually aware that firearms ownership is prohibited in India except by license? Even with two alleged masters degrees some don't understand that India and firearms actual topic of this thread.

India! Well, sister. that's a far distant shore. You can't understand the interplay between religion, extreme population density, and firearms safety until you've actually travelled there.

Perhaps you don't know this, but most Americans just don't have the psychological fortitude to deal with Indian travel and seek Cancun or Negril partytime instead. These people, who have never even heard or read the term lathicharge, these are the people trying to advise you how to run your life in India sister.

Ps 118:8 [It is] better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

 

[Elizabeth619]

If one feels threatened about internet harassment and cyberstalking then one should not provoke others. You're not a "victim" if you instigated it.
Besides, walking away kills many arguments. Me and Rachel stopped bickering hours ago and there's certainly no hard feelings on this end.
(Not picking on Rachel, just giving an example)

 

[Rachel20]

Isn't it interesting that only a few people are actually aware that firearms ownership is prohibited in India except by license? Even with two alleged masters degrees some don't understand that India and firearms actual topic of this thread.

India! Well, sister. that's a far distant shore. You can't understand the interplay between religion, extreme population density, and firearms safety until you've actually travelled there.

Perhaps you don't know this, but most Americans just don't have the psychological fortitude to deal with Indian travel and seek Cancun or Negril partytime instead. These people, who have never even heard or read the term lathicharge, these are the people trying to advise you how to run your life in India sister.

Ps 118:8 [It is] better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Thank you.

Time and again you prove to me the strength of your conviction in the Lord and I am always amazed at your capacity and intelligence.

It has been my privilege to know you. I am blessed.

 

[Praus]

Besides, walking away kills many arguments.

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