Being raped better than letting women have gun to shoot rapist with?:India and rape

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MidniteWelder

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Can you quote one post out of 18 pages where I have stated such?

To answer your question directly without misdirecting. No God has not told me to send such a message.
 
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Amen! Thomas was in India!!!
(looking at maps etc as suggested)
None of them died in Syria of course.

Syrians take their Christianity very seriously--so seriously that they didn't even wait for the resurrection--they just loved Jesus Christ from day they learned of Him.

Matt 4:23-24 ¶ And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people. And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them.

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I am kind of getting tired of explaining and repeating myself over and over again to much older, American people.

They seem to be cleverer and more spiritual than me as they are able to explain how the apostles would have attacked others with swords if they weren't outnumbered and how we should attack criminals but not other people propagating injustice.

It is much beyond me.

I spoke to a few other Indian women , Christians and non believers alike, what they thought about handing guns to everyone.

I am very glad to say that none of them supported it. At least, my Indian brothers and sisters and I agree on certain things.


 
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I am kind of getting tired of explaining and repeating myself over and over again to much older, American people.

They seem to be cleverer and more spiritual than me as they are able to explain how the apostles would have attacked others with swords if they weren't outnumbered and how we should attack criminals but not other people propagating injustice.

It is much beyond me.
It's really interesting to see how a Roman citizen speaks and acts after his conversion vs. an American citizen.

Acts 16:37-38 But Paul said unto them, They have beaten us openly uncondemned, being Romans, and have cast [us] into prison; and now do they thrust us out privily? nay verily; but let them come themselves and fetch us out. And the serjeants told these words unto the magistrates: and they feared, when they heard that they were Romans.
 

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Can you quote one post out of 18 pages where I have stated such?

To answer your question directly without misdirecting. No God has not told me to send such a message.
This is what you've said Mr. Midnite Welder on access to guns. If God hasn't asked you to speak about this than I wonder what agenda you're trying to propagate.



As for India, I believe something that some of us are trying to point out is, we're not trying to Americanize other people.
But help them to fight for their own God given right to defend themselves and their own loved ones.

Its not an american thing, it being born thing.
Since God brought you into this world by knitting you himself in your mothers womb, does it not stand to reason to defend yourself against someone who unjustly would try to deprive you of why God brought you into this world.
Because...a little tip, once you're gone...yes you may be in Heaven but...game over...a dead person cant be used for God here anymore.


Dont rely on others to do the protecting for you, because others can make mistakes. Take the fall yourself if you like the idea of protection against deadly bodily harm.

That's what I'm trying to help some realize.
It's not city or country specific but a worldwide right, which is so fundamental it shouldn't even have to be fought for.



Also another quote from you

I don't see the difference whether the person defending themselves are black, white, chinese, australian, Indian police officer, military, or citizen.
 
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This is what you've said Mr. Midnite Welder on access to guns. If God hasn't asked you to speak about this than I wonder what agenda you're trying to propagate.
Only that you dont have to allow yourself to be a victim or an easy target for the enemy Rachel.
I wasnt specifying Indian, as I dont believe God only caters to Indian people.
I was saying this for all mankind.

Thank you for understanding
 

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Only that you dont have to allow yourself to be a victim or an easy target for the enemy Rachel.
I wasnt specifying Indian, as I dont believe God only caters to Indian people.
I was saying this for all mankind.

Thank you for understanding


You could have said this, in this short precise way , many pages ago, without making it about access to guns for all too.

Thanks a lot for the consideration.
Have a good day. :)
 
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Only that you dont have to allow yourself to be a victim or an easy target for the enemy Rachel.
I wasnt specifying Indian, as I dont believe God only caters to Indian people.
I was saying this for all mankind.

Thank you for understanding
The enemy? The weapon...

Heb 4:12 For the word of God [is] quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and [is] a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

...is wielded like this:

Matt 4:6-7 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
 

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Just to have everything out in the open.

I am kind of getting tired of explaining and repeating myself over and over again to much older, American people.

Now I don’t know for sure how long you have been saved but based on you saying in an earlier post you were not saved yet in 2006 it is reasonable to believe it has been less then 8 years. Concerning Rachel20 her profile says she was born again at the age of 13 and is now 20 years old.


Is the number of years someone is saved or their age, a factor for disregarding a person's opinion?


Should I expect some one like you and Rachel20 to have a better understanding then another believer who has been studying for say 15, 30 or 45 years?
What do you think about this scripture?

1 Timothy 4:12
Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.

A believer who's been studying scripture for 15, 30, 40 years and issues death threats, we should listen to them?

Clearly you and Rachel20 have made up your minds and are choosing not to listen to others who have used various methods to show that a firearm is just a tool, that when used properly can be a deterrent to crime (in this case rape). Scripture instructs us that if one does not want to hear our words to shake the dust off our feet and move on. So I think I will join my friend AOK, shake the dust off my feet and move on.

As you are led friend, as you are led!
Well , I have read carefully what everyone says, and asked questions.

You on the other hand, have issued death threats, mocked faith, and now belittle people because of their age and the years they have been saved.

Please do go, say Hi to your friend AOK from us. He has put us on ignore. He ran away too when questions of integrity and credentials came up.
 
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You on the other hand, have issued death threats, mocked faith, and now belittle people because of their age and the years they have been saved.

Please do go, say Hi to your friend AOK from us. He has put us on ignore. He ran away too when questions of integrity and credentials came up.
And hides behind younger women too.

This was by no means a death threat.
All he did was tell a story ...
All doulos is saying is ...
 

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And hides behind younger women too.

This thread has the maximum number of replies on the news forum.

And I am the only Indian woman here posting on gun control and rape in India vs the dozen Americans endorsing guns.

I really have no life. It was given to Jesus ;)
 
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Licence to shoot: City women say hello to arms - The Times of India

Licence to shoot: City women say hello to arms



BANGALORE: Call it the Nirbhaya or Jyothi effect. Women in Bangalore are ready to carry guns to safeguard themselves.

Towards the end of 2013 -- September to December - at least 700 women enrolled for a course at a shooting range in the city. The Chhattisgarh government's move to manufacture the light gun 'Nirbheek' only for women, has given them hope.

"If I have a gun, I won't hesitate to use it against an attacker," says Savitha Patil, as she takes aim at the Koramangala Indoor Stadium, where the banker has enrolled for a rifle shooting course. "In a situation where I have to choose between my life and allowing my attacker to wreak havoc, I would rather shoot to save myself. If bank manager Jyothi, who was assaulted in an ATM kiosk in November last year, had a way to defend herself, she could have prevented the assault."

But not all women share Savitha's sentiments. "I may buy a gun because knowing I have one will make me feel safe. But I don't think I have the courage to hurt anyone," says IT professional Chaithanya Dhanaraj. "I'd rather use a pepper spray or learn martial arts in self-defence than shoot," she admits.

Secretary of Nishaan Sports Shooting Academy, Swathy Subbaiah, also a BPO employee who works the night shift, wonders if women will be allowed to carry their guns everywhere, including shopping malls and offices.

"Women are vulnerable everywhere. You could be attacked anytime. Malls and offices have security checks, so if guards spot your gun, there could be chaos. Also, those employed in IT and other campuses are asked to keep their belongings in lockers. What's the point if you can't carry your gun?" she asks.

NIRBHEEK IS FOR THE RICH

Though the Nirbheek weighs only 500gm, it comes with a heavy price tag of Rs 1 lakh. "It isn't fair to women who aren't well-off. It should be sold at a subsidized rate and be affordable to all," says Swathy.

"Having a gun and not knowing how to handle it safely is of no use," points out schoolteacher Juthika Shetye. The national and international level shooter, who has her sights trained on an Olympic medal in the 10m air rifle event, says though possessing a gun is reassuring, equipping women with the skills to fire it is more important.

Professional shooter and coach at Nishaan Sports Shooting Academy, Sunil Subbaiah feels women who buy the gun should be professionally trained to shoot and ensure there are no accidents.

"To prevent its misuse by the wrong elements and ensure the procurement process is foolproof, I feel the sale of Nirbheek should come under the ministry of women and child development, where a register of buyers is recorded and maintained meticulously. The government should sell it at a subsidized rate without discrimination. It should also impart training and then issue the gun licence," he emphasizes. The academy, however, holds training programmes only for sports shooters. "Women who own a registered gun can enrol for practice," says Sunil.

Whether the Nirbheek will empower women in fighting attackers or not, it's sure to set many thinking warily about a woman's bag - does it contain a gun?
 
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and then something went BUMP!
how that bump made us jump!
we looked!
then we saw him step in on the mat!
we looked!
and we saw him!
the cat in the hat!
and he said to us,
'why do you sit there like that?'
'i know it is wet
and the sun is not sunny.
but we can have
lots of good fun that is funny!'



ANNIE: Anything you can do I can do better
... I can do anything better than you
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can, yes, I can

 
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FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can, yes, I can


Please find new metaphor.

Rom 1:23 ... an image made like to corruptible man, ...


[video=youtube;8ZUlq0lil1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUlq0lil1w[/video]
 

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As a survivor of constantly repeating myself over and over again, I approve this post.

Thank you, 1still_waters!!


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I am kind of getting tired of explaining and repeating myself over and over again to much older, American people.

ANNIE: Anything you can do I can do better
... I can do anything better than you
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can, yes, I can

 
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1still_waters

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FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can
FRANK: No, you can't
ANNIE: Yes, I can, yes, I can


Please find new metaphor.

Rom 1:23 ... an image made like to corruptible man, ...


[video=youtube;8ZUlq0lil1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUlq0lil1w[/video]

But you quote Ovid.
http://christianchat.com/conspiracy...side-matrix-see-true-reality.html#post1383835

And Ovid said..
It is convenient that there be gods, and, as it is convenient, let us believe there are.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Claiming to be wise, they became fools, [SUP]23 [/SUP]and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, [SUP]25 [/SUP]because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
Praus, I'm pretty sure if you can quote Ovid, without being associated to his support in belief in many gods, then I can reference Ground Hog day without being associated with that lil quote from the movie...
 
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