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That pic only show that someone is hurting. Imagine having the thoughts of a woman, but being trapped in a man's body. That person know that the dress that he is wearing doesn't fit the body it's covering. That person is trying their best to be a woman but know that it is impossible; but while that person is suffering, we are sticking a dirty fork in his wound. Who know, maybe God might bless you or your descendants to feel their pain so that you or they can understand. Make you wonder why God makes people to go through suffering; I'm guessing that to bring them down low so that they can see how it feel to be at the bottom.
Daniel 4:33 Immediately what had been said about Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from people and ate grass like the ox. His body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird.
Isaiah 13:11
I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
Proverbs 8:13
To fear the Lord is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.
Isaiah 2:17
The arrogance of man will be brought low and human pride humbled; the Lord alone will be exalted in that day,
Matthew 23:12
For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
Romans 1:25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
Daniel 4:33 Immediately what had been said about Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from people and ate grass like the ox. His body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird.
Isaiah 13:11
I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
Proverbs 8:13
To fear the Lord is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.
Isaiah 2:17
The arrogance of man will be brought low and human pride humbled; the Lord alone will be exalted in that day,
Matthew 23:12
For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
Romans 1:25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
I'm not offended by it. Just stating a fact. The book turns people against people period.
Pope innocent 2 commanded the slaughter of muslims in the name of god. now the pope believes in Theistic evolution seems they were a bit confused in the religion itself is ever changing who knows what will be in the next 100 years
Pope innocent 2 commanded the slaughter of muslims in the name of god. now the pope believes in Theistic evolution seems they were a bit confused in the religion itself is ever changing who knows what will be in the next 100 years
W
This topic really hits home for me. On September 4th 2013 I lost my 17 year old cousin Nick to suicide. Why? Because he was gay and nobody could accept him for who he was. He was ridiculed at every family function and treated like an out cast which is funny to me because we have a gay aunt who frequents said functions with her girl friend.
I know the bible says it's wrong but the bible also says to love one another. My take on this massively relates to the experience with my cousin. Simply put - To each his own. I do not think it's right to shun someone to make them an outcast simply because we believe it's wrong to be gay. It's their decision. Which would you rather?- This person being gay... but happy (no pun intended) and healthy and alive.. perhaps a productive member of society? OR would you rather them feeling like my cousin did like an outcast and there was no way out so he decided to take his own life?
Because of this if someone tells me they are gay I will never tell them it's wrong or treat them awkwardly because of it. If they asked me what the bible says that's another matter. A personal promise to myself is never hurt anyone- emotionally, physically, what ever it may be. If someone could be hurt by my actions I never do it and the same policy applies to this topic.
I'd much rather have my cousin here right now with me than him lying 6 ft under. He was just a child and he was treated unfairly. I know the bible says it's wrong I am not saying it's right who am I to argue with God's word? At the end of the day as a Christian we are supposed to love everyone and that's what I intend to do.
I know the bible says it's wrong but the bible also says to love one another. My take on this massively relates to the experience with my cousin. Simply put - To each his own. I do not think it's right to shun someone to make them an outcast simply because we believe it's wrong to be gay. It's their decision. Which would you rather?- This person being gay... but happy (no pun intended) and healthy and alive.. perhaps a productive member of society? OR would you rather them feeling like my cousin did like an outcast and there was no way out so he decided to take his own life?
Because of this if someone tells me they are gay I will never tell them it's wrong or treat them awkwardly because of it. If they asked me what the bible says that's another matter. A personal promise to myself is never hurt anyone- emotionally, physically, what ever it may be. If someone could be hurt by my actions I never do it and the same policy applies to this topic.
I'd much rather have my cousin here right now with me than him lying 6 ft under. He was just a child and he was treated unfairly. I know the bible says it's wrong I am not saying it's right who am I to argue with God's word? At the end of the day as a Christian we are supposed to love everyone and that's what I intend to do.
Its not the bible that turns people against people. People sometimes use the bible for their own personal gain.
Matthew 22:36-40
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Matthew 22:36-40
[SUP]36 [/SUP]Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
[SUP]37 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]This is the first and great commandment.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
A man just killed himself because they found child pornography on his computer. Do you feel the same sympathy for him?
The thing is that sin is sin is sin. You can say "to each his own" but what we forget in the moment is that we are here for a blip and then there is eternity. Eternity. Forever. If we truly love someone, why would we say, "Eh, do what you want. I don't care if you go to hell and face the second death in the lake of fire. As long as you're happy here, who cares?" Essentially, that's what we do.
Now, yes, they shouldn't be made to feel different or as outcasts but the very lifestyle they choose makes them one, regardless of religion. Many non-Christians dislike homosexuality.
As Christians, we are outcasts as well. Everyone, every single person on earth, has days where life seems unbearable. The difference is that some just tough it out knowing that one horrible day isn't a reason to cut a life of promise short, one mistake does not end all purpose. Yet, those who commit suicide cannot see past the moment of pain to the promise of tomorrow and that is tragic.
I am sorry for your loss.
What must be remembered always is that we are looking at eternity, not at today, and if there is a sinful thing that is going to keep someone from being with us and with Christ for all eternity, it is better to confront it now, than have them face judgement later. Whose judgement matters more? Us on earth, confronting sin here and now in love or the judgement of God the day when He says, "Depart from Me, I never knew you." Whose do you think is going to matter more? Ultimately, we speak truth because God's final judgement matters most and He has plainly said who will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven and we don't want anyone to perish and neither does God.
The thing is that sin is sin is sin. You can say "to each his own" but what we forget in the moment is that we are here for a blip and then there is eternity. Eternity. Forever. If we truly love someone, why would we say, "Eh, do what you want. I don't care if you go to hell and face the second death in the lake of fire. As long as you're happy here, who cares?" Essentially, that's what we do.
Now, yes, they shouldn't be made to feel different or as outcasts but the very lifestyle they choose makes them one, regardless of religion. Many non-Christians dislike homosexuality.
As Christians, we are outcasts as well. Everyone, every single person on earth, has days where life seems unbearable. The difference is that some just tough it out knowing that one horrible day isn't a reason to cut a life of promise short, one mistake does not end all purpose. Yet, those who commit suicide cannot see past the moment of pain to the promise of tomorrow and that is tragic.
I am sorry for your loss.
What must be remembered always is that we are looking at eternity, not at today, and if there is a sinful thing that is going to keep someone from being with us and with Christ for all eternity, it is better to confront it now, than have them face judgement later. Whose judgement matters more? Us on earth, confronting sin here and now in love or the judgement of God the day when He says, "Depart from Me, I never knew you." Whose do you think is going to matter more? Ultimately, we speak truth because God's final judgement matters most and He has plainly said who will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven and we don't want anyone to perish and neither does God.
T
I have to wonder if those which stack rank homosexuality as the ultimate sin, will ever understand that a person engaged in the homosexual lifestyle is not going to hell, because of their homosexuality. They are going to hell, because they refuse to accept Jesus Christ.
Homosexuality is secondary, not primary and the church has lost it on that period.
Just like several posters here were on the same path until the Holy Ghost got a hold of them.
Your pet sin is not what sends oyu to hell, peeps, its refusal to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, its the same sin you committed.
Get off your high horses and remember something profound:
FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD!
If he loved you and your pet sins, then he loves the gay and lesbian and I have seen the power of his love crush that lifestyle in a nano second.
I am not one bit tolerant of the sin of homosexuality.
Homosexuality is secondary, not primary and the church has lost it on that period.
Just like several posters here were on the same path until the Holy Ghost got a hold of them.
Your pet sin is not what sends oyu to hell, peeps, its refusal to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, its the same sin you committed.
Get off your high horses and remember something profound:
FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD!
If he loved you and your pet sins, then he loves the gay and lesbian and I have seen the power of his love crush that lifestyle in a nano second.
I am not one bit tolerant of the sin of homosexuality.
T
Sorry sis, peeps here were completely stack ranking it and that is epidemic in the church today.
Would you sit with a couple of lesbians that visited your church , who were truly convicted? Would you walk with them to the altar and be there as they confessed, then appoint yourself as discipler if needed to help them?
This is where the church has an epidemic at today, their love is not really all that tolerant. What appears to be a lenient attitude is actually confusion, because most spiritually mature saints will move towards the person, forgetting their condition and risk great condemnation if they do.
The church is joke on this subject...
Would you sit with a couple of lesbians that visited your church , who were truly convicted? Would you walk with them to the altar and be there as they confessed, then appoint yourself as discipler if needed to help them?
This is where the church has an epidemic at today, their love is not really all that tolerant. What appears to be a lenient attitude is actually confusion, because most spiritually mature saints will move towards the person, forgetting their condition and risk great condemnation if they do.
The church is joke on this subject...
Something is only immoral if it effects someones wellbeing in a negative way. Thats why I asked how can something labeled a sin by one guy not be a sin to another? Because sin is just an opinion and it matters not who does what within society unless they are harming someone.
The book teaches how to form opinions on others based on what sin they commit, this also can determine the punishment. Some get stoned some pay a fine and can be excommunicated. The book empowered the rich because they could read and then cast judgement on those who were seen as guilty weather they had harmed someone or not. This is called a police state or is simply a primitive way to rule people in an unfair way. Those on the top remained on top (lawgivers) those being subjected to law were kept on the bottom.
Its pretty obvious that the book was written by slave owners and wealthy literate people. Some goat herder in the middle of nowhere did not have a say in what went into the laws or the books. This is pretty much how all religions were made including the Egyptians, king tut was under serious pressure to bring back the old gods and scrap his fathers work of creating a new religion, politics ruled the day.
The book teaches how to form opinions on others based on what sin they commit, this also can determine the punishment. Some get stoned some pay a fine and can be excommunicated. The book empowered the rich because they could read and then cast judgement on those who were seen as guilty weather they had harmed someone or not. This is called a police state or is simply a primitive way to rule people in an unfair way. Those on the top remained on top (lawgivers) those being subjected to law were kept on the bottom.
Its pretty obvious that the book was written by slave owners and wealthy literate people. Some goat herder in the middle of nowhere did not have a say in what went into the laws or the books. This is pretty much how all religions were made including the Egyptians, king tut was under serious pressure to bring back the old gods and scrap his fathers work of creating a new religion, politics ruled the day.
Something is immoral because God decrees it so. Everyone has their 'well being' affected in different ways. There is no standard here.
The definition of immoral says nothing about well being. It says:
The Bible is the standard of moral principles, whether accepted by you or not.
The definition of immoral says nothing about well being. It says:
- defying moral principles: contrary to accepted moral principles
The Bible is the standard of moral principles, whether accepted by you or not.
C
If truth is based on interpretation, then truth can be anything and truth is of no value then.
If truth is based on a person's actions from their personal interpretation, then it is merely perceived truth they have acted upon.
The truth remains the same, no matter what a man says it is. And to find fault with God because of personal interpretation, is to blame Him for others actions.
Because that pope says that he is a follower of God and, by such claims, go on a murdering spree, does not dismiss God. Even Hitler claimed to be doing God's work. Are we to blame God for Hitler's actions?
If truth is based on a person's actions from their personal interpretation, then it is merely perceived truth they have acted upon.
The truth remains the same, no matter what a man says it is. And to find fault with God because of personal interpretation, is to blame Him for others actions.
Because that pope says that he is a follower of God and, by such claims, go on a murdering spree, does not dismiss God. Even Hitler claimed to be doing God's work. Are we to blame God for Hitler's actions?
C
I am sorry to hear about your cousin. Numerous times I have felt that same sting. If people would only do as you just said and as was commanded to us by Jesus, that world of condemnation would soon see its last victim.
Love!!! It is what we are to do, not condemning. Otherwise, would we not all be condemned....
Love!!! It is what we are to do, not condemning. Otherwise, would we not all be condemned....